MY PROBLEM WITH US TOUR DATES SO FAR

[Mattattack]

And it amazes me how you don't think that all the business people involved with the planning of a tour like this haven't thought this through already - and so it's something we don't need to think about because we don't have the figures/business knowledge......

@#$%Funker

They did a tour in 2002 with fuck all promotion, and they just did a European tour where they announced dates in this fuck ass style. This is fast becoming a joke.

[King Sand]

This whole debate is absolutely crazy!!  All of a sudden, we have a bunch of Economics majors bitching about suppy and demand, and that playing so many shows will saturate the market??? WTF!!!  They haven't had an actual North American tour in HOW MANY YEARS??  And now, when they tour in areas they haven't been to in a decade, people still bitch?  Who cares if all the shows don't SELL OUT...  That doesn't make the tour a failure!! Who cares if some local asshole reporter writes an article about a low turn-out or a crappy performance...  None of that matters.  None of that will make anyone care anymore or any less about GNR...  People will come around because of the music, not anything else. 

[axlrosegnr]

While i do agree that the marketing of this is weird, it's not my place to bitch, I'm happy as hell they're touring, hell, I wish I had enough cash to see every show. The management knows more about it than any of us, and they're doing this for a reason, a show doesn't have to sell out to turn a profit. While I would like to see every show sold out, they probably won't but who gives a shit, a lot of people are still gonna have one hell of a good time seeing this band, and thats all that matters.

[Mattattack]

If the shows don't sell well, the tour will get cancelled like the 2002 tour. That's why some of us care that tickets sell here.

[WhatIsItMan]

I hope they saturate the Illinois area. ?Chicago, Rockford, Rosemont, Moline, Madison, and Milwaukee sound damn good to me. ?I'd go to each of those. ?

[axlrosegnr]

And you know for a fact that the 2002 tour got cancelled becuase fo ticket sales? Please, share this information with all of us, and the rest of the world for that matter

[Minneapolisnewsman]

Can we lock this topic adminstrators? ?Many of the statements here are misleading, and quite ridiculous. ?I think many are going to be pleasantly surprised by attendance at the shows. ?

[WARose]

they played 11 shows in the UK (including dublin ) as far as i know....  3 shows in london alone...

and basically all of these shows were sold out or almost sold out...

so i`d take this as a good sign...   let them promote the shows a little, announce the release date, maybe even release a single and this should work in the states as well---

[Mr.Intensity]

Who cares if they play a bunch of shows and they don't sell out.

Benefits will be:
1)Band gets more expierience together.
2)Band might decide to play more new songs or different songs because it may eventually get tired of the same setlist.
3)If the shows don't sell out radio might do promotion give-aways getting more people out to see Gnr, the band we love, thus leading to more interest for the album.
4)Axl is going to show for all the shows this time around, so it will strongly build back up his credibility with venues/ticket promoters.
5)Scalpers won't be able to screw over fans if they don't sell out.
6)No one will have to travel far to see gnr.

The press is going to bitch about Axl regardless, whether it sells out or not, they hate Axl for all the time he fucked them over by not granting interviews, not arriving on stage until 12pm, so the press reporter who HAS TO WRITE A CONCERT REVIEW gets fucked and has to stay out late, etc...

This tour will be a success.

[Mr.Intensity]

If the shows don't sell well, the tour will get cancelled like the 2002 tour. Thats why some of us care that tickets sell here.

Ticket sales didnt cancel the 2002 tour, ridiculous demands from Clear Channel did.

[King Sand]

No one knows exactly why the 2002 tour got cancelled... Low tickets sales was one of the possibilities (but Axl alluded to other reasons which were never made public)...  Look, low ticket sales and not selling out every show are two TOTALLY different things.  Of course, IF every concert was met with low sales, shows MIGHT get cancelled...  But that has nothing to do with not SELLING OUT every concert.  That's why I say that even if they don't sell out every show, they can still have a very successful (and profitable) tour.

[Mutherfunker]

And it amazes me how you don't think that all the business people involved with the planning of a tour like this haven't thought this through already - and so it's something we don't need to think about because we don't have the figures/business knowledge......

@#$%Funker

They did a tour in 2002 with fuck all promotion, and they just did a European tour where they announced dates in this fuck ass style. This is fast becoming a joke.

.... and the European tour kicked ass, and was a major success.... your point?

I say the more shows the better 

For all we know Guns are aiming at running some sort of record breaking huge long tour starting now, I hope so!

@#$%Funker

[PJ]

If the shows don't sell well, the tour will get cancelled like the 2002 tour. Thats why some of us care that tickets sell here.

Ticket sales didnt cancel the 2002 tour, ridiculous demands from Clear Channel did.

2002 wasnt a failure in economic stuff..
in proportion it grossed more money than Motley Crue and NIN last year
and GNR played 1/4 shows those bands played... witn no album and no promotion
it was like NIN and MC grossed for example like 50 million dollars and GNR 30 million...
i will try to find the rite numbers and show them

[WARose]

If the shows don't sell well, the tour will get cancelled like the 2002 tour. Thats why some of us care that tickets sell here.

Ticket sales didnt cancel the 2002 tour, ridiculous demands from Clear Channel did.

2002 wasnt a failure in economic stuff..
in proportion it grossed more money than Motley Crue and NIN last year
and GNR played 1/4 shows those bands played... witn no album and no promotion
it was like NIN and MC grossed for example like 50 million dollars and GNR 30 million...
i will try to find the rite numbers and show them

how much did they net?

And it amazes me how you don't think that all the business people involved with the planning of a tour like this haven't thought this through already - and so it's something we don't need to think about because we don't have the figures/business knowledge......

@#$%Funker

They did a tour in 2002 with fuck all promotion, and they just did a European tour where they announced dates in this fuck ass style. This is fast becoming a joke.

.... and the European tour kicked ass, and was a major success.... your point?

believe me... he has no point...   he just cares for axl to say it in a positive way

[PrettyTiedUp763]

Why are you complaining? All those shows in Florida give people a greater chance to attend more than one.

[TheDave0206]

I actually purchased 2 of the $10 tickets for the second show in Philly, so yes, that was a special deal if you were at the first show- I had first row on the side of the stage for the first night (just close enough to hear an usher tell the couple next to me from Rhode Island to "get out now if they want to stay alive" at about 9:45-- my seats for the second night were real good second level seats, like right on the other side of the stage. ?---

Also, there are like 5 different areas within and hour or two of philly that could be used as a substitute-- off the top of my head, Tweeter Center (enclosed, no lawn) in Camden, Wilkes Barre, Soveriegn Bank Arena in Trenton, East Rutherford in NJ, Boardwalk Hall in AC as well as any of the casinos (Borgata would be amazing), hell, they could even play State College (Penn State)'s Bryce Jordan Center. 

[Gaymo, the Hobbit]

when gnr stop touring in a couple of years maybe, you people will regret that you even posted this stuff.

[Dr. Blutarsky]

How cool is it to be able to see GNR in a medium size venue as opposed to in a big stadium? I for one like the smaller more frequent shows than the  one big regional show. More people will have a chance to see them closer to home. What the hell are people complaining about?

[slashisvr]

Europe had no problems with selling tickets, but i do hear those americans are alot more stubborn.but thats what i hear

they reckon over here you guys wont go see them untill they have an album out, i thought wtf???

thats ridiculous....isnt it???

[pasnow]

I actually purchased 2 of the $10 tickets for the second show in Philly, so yes, that was a special deal if you were at the first show-

That's odd, because they never ended up going on sale?!! ?