Based on what we have heard so far...

[Ak1nney]

I think the finished product of all the songs will kick ass compared to any live versions we've heard. We know axl's voice will be on top of its game on the recordings. I kinda wondered if the delay of the album over the past couple years was because of Axl rerecording his voice a lot until he got it in shape, but I know I am prolly wrong.

[ppbebe]

strange to say although I love most of the new songs, I'm not a big fan of the blues...which seems to be the fav new song of every fan of the old band here.

what does this keeeeekeeeeeeee thing mean?!

It's like hehe. no sister keke is not a weirdo. She's just not a boringass stereotyped charactor, that's all.

[the dirt]

strange to say although I love most of the new songs, I'm not a big fan of the blues...which seems to be the fav new song of every fan of the old band here.

Really? I think the same of Madagascar. Being a fan of the old and new, I don't feel it that much

[nesquick]

Based on the demos, there is potencial. BUT we need to hear the final studio versions now. It's always difficult to judge demos from... 1999 or 2000...


Slash still remains untouchable.

[sisterofyu]

I have no doubt in the success...keekee...it will be as great as beatles white album and led zep 4, 

[lennonisgod]

if this was their debute album/tour people would be laughin at them

45 year old wigger vocal with a hairy goth guitar player, a 40 year old punk at the bass....

rotfl.

I think I made myself clear when I said, "Based strictly on the music, not his age."  So you think the music is laughable as well??  Why are in a forum then for the new Guns N' Roses??  That doesn't make any sense.

You dont have to go all offensive. Axl Rose doesnt need a pimple-face geek defending him.

I am here because of the music. the statement was just humor, and everybody else on this forum took it that way.

A pimple faced geek?? Hahaha, you're an idiot.

EDIT:  I don't think I was being DEFENSIVE AND therefore I DIDN'T DEFEND HIM!! I just asked a simple question, without any negative remarks towards you.  You started that shit.  But you have to live with yourself everyday, so you're the one who has to suffer, not me. Now back on topic fucker.

[nesquick]

There is a still something missing for me, the bluesy element, the Slash genius on guitar. It IS missing.
Really, where is the bluesy element? This is probably the biggest musical loss...
I have to say that in term of emotion, the new songs (or demos) don't give me the same emotion I had when I was a kid with the old band...
I'm bored of the shred too, it ain't genious to play 200 notes per seconds like a machine, the real genious is to play the right note at the right time on the right tone like Mr Slash, Mr Knopfler, Mr Gilmour, or Mr Page. Here is the difference.... There is no "genious" in the newGNR guitar playing, at least not on the demos.

[Wando]

When I first time heard Better (the ~1:06 clip) I laughed out loud. When I do that it's not a good sign & if I hadn't force fed it to me I'd hate it. I think that says it [;

[nesquick]

As I said numerous times, I'm not really a fan of "Better" either... the only good thing is the Outro. But the rest of the song sounds too
"emo/nu-metallish" for me. Just like a cross between Good Charlotte and NIN.

[Eazy E]

There is a still something missing for me, the bluesy element, the Slash genius on guitar. It IS missing.
Really, where is the bluesy element? This is probably the biggest musical loss...
I have to say that in term of emotion, the new songs (or demos) don't give me the same emotion I had when I was a kid with the old band...

The point of the thread wasn't to compare it with the old band.  Maybe you're letting that influence your opinion of the new music too much, because the songs are pretty awesome IMO.

[jarmo]

As I said numerous times, I'm not really a fan of "Better" either... the only good thing is the Outro. But the rest of the song sounds too
"emo/nu-metallish" for me. Just like a cross between Good Charlotte and NIN.

I thought NIN was "indus"??


I've said it before, CD will hopefully be for GN'R what Achtung Baby was for U2. Something completely new, something fresh, something people will appreciate years and years after its release.



/jarmo

[nesquick]

Achtung Baby is a great album for sure... but maybe, you know maybe we are too "fan" to be fair and honnest about the demos.
For me the biggest proof to see if the record is that good will be the record sales. The people will judge it.

Achtung baby sold around 15 million copies and was a phenomenal success. The biggest single was "One". Good luck for ChiDem.
ChiDEm will need a Monster Hit, not just "good songs", but at least one Monster Hit.

[jarmo]

Stop talking about sales as proof of quality.

It's not 1991 anymore. Albums don't sell like they used to thanks to mp3s and Itunes.



/jarmo

[sisterofyu]

Better and IRS will most likely be the most popular songs to non-gnr rock fans, like november rain and welcome to the jungle were to mainstream rock listeners.....the deeper songs or raunchier new ones will be more appreciated by the hardcore GNR fans...keekee....but Im already addicted to IRS, CD and Better ....keekee I just wish there were more leaks to hear

[journey]

ChiDEm will need a Monster Hit, not just "good songs", but at least one Monster Hit.

Monster hits are disgusting. They get over played to the point where people hate the song. And sometimes the public will try to define a band by that one monster hit. It's annoying to say the least.

I prefer the leaks we've heard so far over anything played on the radio today. They're far more superior - song writing  wise, in my opinion. I guess I'm biased.

[Groghan]

if this was their debute album/tour people would be laughin at them

45 year old wigger vocal with a hairy goth guitar player, a 40 year old punk at the bass....

rotfl.

The fact you actually use "rotfl" makes your opinion worthless.

And it's sad that you judge music on the age and looks of the people in the band.

[Bono]

The fact you actually use "rotfl" makes your opinion worthless.

And it's sad that you judge music on the age and looks of the people in the band.

What the fuck are you doing here? (Not that I agree with you stand on useing lol's or rotfl abreviations )

Personally I haven't bothered to listen to any of the new songs in months other than Madagascar which I really like. To be honest none of the new songs(Better included) are anything special and in my opinion are all quite average at best.? I really want CD to be great but form what I've heard so far I have no reason to believ it will be. Now having said all that I agree with whoever it was that said it's not really fair to judge these songs based on live recordings or demos.

 Jarmo: Chinese Democracy is already to Guns N' Roses what Achtung Baby was to U2. the only thing is we don't know the outcome/fallout of CD will be yet. Hopefully it's "Achtung Baby positive". If that's the case CD will blow the doors off people.

[Bono]

Stop talking about sales as proof of quality.

It's not 1991 anymore. Albums don't sell like they used to thanks to mp3s and Itunes.



/jarmo

No but album sales are a part of the equation. A great album is more likely to have sustained albums sales. Strong single after strong single will boost album sales. Obviously albums sales have never been a  good gage for the quality of the album but they do play a  part.  Great albums eventually sell alot or at the very least continue to sell long after their release. Shit albums may sell well right at the start and then plateau completely. I think you can tell alot from album sales but only years down the road when you can see how many units continue to move. Even in the era of itunes and mp3's and illegal downloading.

[Mikkamakka]

the music is definetly better"" then what's ou there now.. SOme songs hit home like better twat? but others like cd, oh my god, silkworms, riyad ,and citr for me could just be anyone's material.. CD should do good..

I agree. Better and TWAT will be great on the album, IRS is a good song, too, but the rest (we've heard so far) is very mediocre, even comparing to today's market. And Silkworms, Riyadh and CITR are horrible songs.

But the album and the band would do well if it was a completely unknown and new band since Axl is Axl (I mean his personality, voice and creativity) and some of the music is very great. (And we wouldn't know the classic band to compare with ?)

[Mikkamakka]

As I said numerous times, I'm not really a fan of "Better" either... the only good thing is the Outro. But the rest of the song sounds too
"emo/nu-metallish" for me. Just like a cross between Good Charlotte and NIN.

I thought NIN was "indus"??


I've said it before, CD will hopefully be for GN'R what Achtung Baby was for U2. Something completely new, something fresh, something people will appreciate years and years after its release.



/jarmo

The UYI twins were GN'R's Achtung Baby. And as far as I know industrial elements and 80s power ballads aren't fresh anymore.