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« on: September 09, 2006, 10:49:06 PM »

Based on the new songs that we've heard so far (the leaks, the few other songs we have heard live, etc.), what would the reaction be to this music coming out from this band, if this was an unknown band??  I mean what if Guns N' Roses had never existed until now and this was going to be their first album... how would the general public\music fans react to this music??  Would everyone here still like the music as much as they do now, if this was a debut album??  Could it even be possible to create the kind of response that Appetite had created almost 20 years ago??  Would this music stand out to other music fans, compared to the other music that is released these days, without the past history of the GNR name??  Don't even think about the age of Axl or that he was much younger before or Slash or anyone else, I want opinions strictly based upon this new bands music.  Just imagine that this is a "normal" new band, that many people don't know about yet.  Of course we don't know all of the songs from CD yet, but I just wanted to hear some opinions based on the songs we know.  I'm trying to put in perspective how great or how poor these songs are, without the name Guns N' Roses, as we know it today.  Well, I was thinking about this a couple of days ago and I hope I explained my question well enough and any responses to it are appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2006, 11:07:04 PM »

Honestly, I think it would go over very well, and that's not just me being a GnR fanboy.  Stuff like Madagascar and The Blues is excellent, and I think the press and music fans would take notice.
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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2006, 11:14:13 PM »

Based on the new songs that we've heard so far (the leaks, the few other songs we have heard live, etc.), what would the reaction be to this music coming out from this band, if this was an unknown band??  I mean what if Guns N' Roses had never existed until now and this was going to be their first album... how would the general public\music fans react to this music??  Would everyone here still like the music as much as they do now, if this was a debut album??  Could it even be possible to create the kind of response that Appetite had created almost 20 years ago??  Would this music stand out to other music fans, compared to the other music that is released these days, without the past history of the GNR name??  Don't even think about the age of Axl or that he was much younger before or Slash or anyone else, I want opinions strictly based upon this new bands music.  Just imagine that this is a "normal" new band, that many people don't know about yet.  Of course we don't know all of the songs from CD yet, but I just wanted to hear some opinions based on the songs we know.  I'm trying to put in perspective how great or how poor these songs are, without the name Guns N' Roses, as we know it today.  Well, I was thinking about this a couple of days ago and I hope I explained my question well enough and any responses to it are appreciated.

I think it's unfair to judge demos and live performances. The demos are very promising, though. The Blues, Madagascar and some other new tracks have great promise also. I think this album either has the potential to be a brilliant fusion of different and unique musical stylings or it will be entirely misunderstood and fall flat on its face - I'm very desperately hoping for the former to happen (and I think it will). I think at first people will be harsh and critics will be tough on it for obvious reasons, but ten years down the road people will look back and realize it was a masterpiece and people were just comparing it too much to the original band's output.
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« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2006, 12:54:05 AM »

I love GNR but even I think the new demos/leaks/concert recordings suck monkey balls. Sure it's decent compared to everything else that's out today but it pales in comparison to anything GNR has put out in the past. Quite simply these leaks/demos/concert recordings are not up to the high standards of the name 'GNR' or 'Guns N' Roses'. If the record with these leaks/demos/concert recordings came out today by another band I would toss them in the same group as Good Charlotte, Crossfade, Simple Plan, Papa Roach, Chevelle, Jimmy Eat World, Offspring, Lost Prophets, etc.
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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2006, 12:58:50 AM »

I love these songs regardless. They are very amazing tunes, i loved them from the first time I  heard them. Everybody I've shown that don't know there is a new Guns N' Roses were blown away. There hasn't been one person I've shown that wasn't impressed. There really great tunes and the final product is going to be earth-shattering.
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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2006, 07:35:26 AM »

If Axl Rose had never existed before and came out with a debute album it would blow away everything out there right now simply because he would be the most unique singer anyone has ever heard.

That is the main reason GnR hit it big in the first place.  Its all about axls emotive singing style that makes guns n roses what it is.

When he puts his vocal on a piece of music it turns that song into something magical. 

Axl Rose has the X factor. Plus, the new bands music is tight.  There is no band out there right now with this kind of diversity and depth. 

I really cant wait to hear the final product, I just know it is gonna blow everybody away. yes ok peace
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2006, 08:40:30 AM »

if this was their debute album/tour people would be laughin at them

45 year old wigger vocal with a hairy goth guitar player, a 40 year old punk at the bass....

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« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2006, 08:55:34 AM »



Axl Rose has the X factor. Plus, the new bands music is tight.  There is no band out there right now with this kind of diversity and depth. 


I played a few people some of the new songs mixed in with the old songs, so when a new song would come on ie/ better, they ll be like wtf is this, im like a new song, then i ll hear why isnt that played on the radio, then i ll explain how it hasnt been actually released, then an old song or 2 would play then another new song, again same reaction.  I think people need to hear the new music. will it be as popular, idk, but based on what we have heard so far, id say GNR has a huge upside.
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« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2006, 09:22:02 AM »

i think it wouldnt matter if it ws gnr or not as long as it was marketed in the right way.
i def think the new gnr are pop rock music.....some may disagree but i think this stuff is gonna be the top of the rock chart.

it might have been different if it wasnt gnr, a lot of people are closed minded and already decided axl is a dick and cd is shite, which is a shame!
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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2006, 11:46:27 AM »

if this was their debute album/tour people would be laughin at them

45 year old wigger vocal with a hairy goth guitar player, a 40 year old punk at the bass....

rotfl.


I think I made myself clear when I said, "Based strictly on the music, not his age."  So you think the music is laughable as well??  Why are in a forum then for the new Guns N' Roses??  That doesn't make any sense.
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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2006, 11:55:31 AM »

Axl's voice is good enough for any new listener to take notice.
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« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2006, 12:46:32 PM »

Although a music fan, I wasn't a fan, I mean like the fan who'd frequent a fan site lets alone posting there, of any particular band before I heard chinese democracy. so, go figure. ok
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« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2006, 12:49:14 PM »

the music is definetly better"" then what's ou there now.. SOme songs hit home like better twat  but others like cd, oh my god, silkworms, riyad ,and citr for me could just be anyone's material.. CD should do good..
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« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2006, 12:51:21 PM »

if this was their debute album/tour people would be laughin at them

45 year old wigger vocal with a hairy goth guitar player, a 40 year old punk at the bass....

rotfl.


I think I made myself clear when I said, "Based strictly on the music, not his age."? So you think the music is laughable as well??? Why are in a forum then for the new Guns N' Roses??? That doesn't make any sense.

You dont have to go all offensive. Tongue Axl Rose doesnt need a pimple-face geek defending him.

I am here because of the music. the statement was just humor, and everybody else on this forum took it that way. peace
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« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2006, 12:56:04 PM »

It would be kind of naive to believe his age won't play part in how success in the mainstream will be, we all know they don't hire fat women who aren't marketable often.. Same goes for age, so no unless you poked everyone's eyews out then there's no way around it
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« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2006, 01:09:35 PM »

Whatever as the thread starter has defined it, this thread is sorely about the music and not about other factors.

Try to see it as a band you found out of the blue.
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« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2006, 01:15:35 PM »

The New Material is really good, keekee, there is no other music out there right now that sounds anything like it really....all the rock is more metallica sounding  (not that its bad) but it all sounds the same after a while and america has been invaded by rap for far too long time frame....so the new GNR material is comparable to Something really masterful like Led Zep 4 and Beatles white album keekee....its axls rock n roll manifesto...keekee...and I like it as much as AFD which used to be my fav cd.
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« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2006, 01:20:24 PM »

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I love GNR but even I think the new demos/leaks/concert recordings suck monkey balls. Sure it's decent compared to everything else that's out today but it pales in comparison to anything GNR has put out in the past. Quite simply these leaks/demos/concert recordings are not up to the high standards of the name 'GNR' or 'Guns N' Roses'. If the record with these leaks/demos/concert recordings came out today by another band I would toss them in the same group as Good Charlotte, Crossfade, Simple Plan, Papa Roach, Chevelle, Jimmy Eat World, Offspring, Lost Prophets, etc.


Well said! ? ok The only exception I think is "Better". That song blew me away. This is the only song i've heard that is worthy of the name GUNS N' ROSES. Other than that, The new songs are pretty weak. But I think all GN'R fans will give them a chance. But Axl will have to Work his ass off to get new people to like CD.
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« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2006, 01:23:09 PM »

what does this keeeeekeeeeeeee thing mean?! confused
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« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2006, 01:24:28 PM »

She's just a weirdo yes
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