Since I Don't Have You Question

[Buddha_Master]

I always figured the dudes were stoned off there ass when they recorded this...at the very least Axl was. I am not saying I don't like it because in a weird way I do (and to be perfectly honest, I think the album is so far beneath GNR that I have never really enjoyed it. SIDHY just might be the most listenable track on TSI for me. Least cringe inducing. Not a punk rock fan. I do like the Ramones so I umm...). I also kind of dig old 50's songs on occasion and appreciate the originals vocals so Axl's take is interesting in that context. I am getting to my question...so hold up. So its obvious this song was another GNR fucking around track. From the "Yep, We're fucked" right down to the strange ass video. I felt like downloading off itunes last night while I was you know, kicking back, and something hit me (as opposed to me hitting something). So without further a fucking doo, the question.

Is the running time for the track intentional? With the way the track winds done this would be easily controlled. I always dug the fact that GN'R had done cool hidden shit in the past (like the YCBM line in the booklet for Appetite and the Aint it fun title in the UYI one). So you think it is?

[busngabb]

You'll have to be more specific about the time dude. The Da Vinci code this ain't

Off the top of my head the running time is 4.18. Which means what?

[Buddha_Master]

You'll have to be more specific about the time dude. The Da Vinci code this ain't

Off the top of my head the running time is 4.18. Which means what?

The running time is 4:20

[russtcb]

I always figured the dudes were stoned off there ass when they recorded this...at the very least Axl was. I am not saying I don't like it because in a weird way I do (and to be perfectly honest, I think the album is so far beneath GNR that I have never really enjoyed it. SIDHY just might be the most listenable track on TSI for me. Least cringe inducing. Not a punk rock fan. I do like the Ramones so I umm...). I also kind of dig old 50's songs on occasion and appreciate the originals vocals so Axl's take is interesting in that context. I am getting to my question...so hold up. So its obvious this song was another GNR fucking around track. From the "Yep, We're fucked" right down to the strange ass video. I felt like downloading off itunes last night while I was you know, kicking back, and something hit me (as opposed to me hitting something). So without further a fucking doo, the question.

Is the running time for the track intentional? With the way the track winds done this would be easily controlled. I always dug the fact that GN'R had done cool hidden shit in the past (like the YCBM line in the booklet for Appetite and the Aint it fun title in the UYI one). So you think it is?

For me the most listenable track from that album is "Hair of the Dog" but if you question is "Did they mean to end Since I Don't Have You that way?" then my answer would be "I think so".

[jazjme]

I get what you mean by 420,maybe others dont.lol

[busngabb]

You'll have to be more specific about the time dude. The Da Vinci code this ain't

Off the top of my head the running time is 4.18. Which means what?

The running time is 4:20

Oops. I'll buy it one day honestly I will.

Anyway, what does 4:20 mean? Some American gangster reference perhaps? Something about drugs or sex?

Help...

[LittleFly]

You'll have to be more specific about the time dude. The Da Vinci code this ain't

Off the top of my head the running time is 4.18. Which means what?

The running time is 4:20

Oops. I'll buy it one day honestly I will.

Anyway, what does 4:20 mean? Some American gangster reference perhaps? Something about drugs or sex?

Help...

It means times to smoke pot

[Buddha_Master]

You'll have to be more specific about the time dude. The Da Vinci code this ain't

Off the top of my head the running time is 4.18. Which means what?

The running time is 4:20

Oops. I'll buy it one day honestly I will.

Anyway, what does 4:20 mean? Some American gangster reference perhaps? Something about drugs or sex?

Help...

Here is your red pill dude

http://www.snopes.com/language/stories/420.htm

[faldor]

I doubt it was done intentionally.  I'd expect that from a stoner band, but not Guns N' Roses.

[Tonrey]

I noticed that at the end of SIDHY there was some GNR songs in the credits and one of them was called How I Cry?

Edit: The video of SIDHY.

[Buddha_Master]

I doubt it was done intentionally.? I'd expect that from a stoner band, but not Guns N' Roses.

But GNR has done several tracks about being under the influence of psychedelics directly (The Garden and My world For instance). And don't pigeonhole bands like that dude. The music out of the 60's slaps comments like that. I don't think you know what you just said. Stoner bands were the Dead, Beatles, Hendrix, Doors, Joplin, Sabbath, Zepplin, Floyd, the Stones and on. But of course no one calls them stoner bands, so you shouldnt either. GNR are awesome because we don't normally have bands at this level of musicianship.

Tarrantino uses this in his films as do many other filmmakers and musicians. Its not a knock, so maybe you shouldnt make it out to be one. Its a reference and in the case of this track...it is appropriate. I think its funny if that is what they did. Or maybe its just a strange coincidence but, that is what Im asking.

I noticed that at the end of SIDHY there was some GNR songs in the credits and one of them was called How I Cry?

That is fucking interesting! How I cry? Dude that is a catch I haven't heard yet. Right on man. I think this shit is totally intentional. GNR is always doing this. Dude you serious? Never noticed the songs in the credits. How I cry? Hmmm...

[russtcb]

I doubt it was done intentionally.? I'd expect that from a stoner band, but not Guns N' Roses.

But GNR has done several tracks about being under the influence of psychedelics directly (The Garden and My world For instance). And don't pigeonhole bands like that dude. The music out of the 60's slaps comments like that. I don't think you know what you just said. Stoner bands were the Dead, Beatles, Hendrix, Doors, Joplin, Sabbath, Zepplin, Floyd, the Stones and on. But of course no one calls them stoner bands, so you shouldnt either. GNR are awesome because we don't normally have bands at this level of musicianship.

Tarrantino uses this in his films as do many other filmmakers and musicians. Its not a knock, so maybe you shouldnt make it out to be one. Its a reference and in the case of this track...it is appropriate. I think its funny if that is what they did. Or maybe its just a strange coincidence but, that is what Im asking.

I noticed that at the end of SIDHY there was some GNR songs in the credits and one of them was called How I Cry?

That is fucking interesting! How I cry? Dude that is a catch I haven't heard yet. Right on man. I think this shit is totally intentional. GNR is always doing this. Dude you serious? Never noticed the songs in the credits. How I cry? Hmmm...

Yeah really! Me neither! Where do I see this? I wanna check it out for myself.

[dave-gnfnr2k]

The funny thing is really why Axl says yep we're fucked in since I dont have you. Now that is a funny story 

[russtcb]

The funny thing is really why Axl says yep we're fucked in since I dont have you. Now that is a funny story?

Do tell...

[jimb0]

Yeah quit hoarding all the good stories lol

[Buddha_Master]

YEa Dave, I don't remember the story behind that. I almost take that as literal. Like, they are really fucked up and trashed, or they are fucking around and fucked up for doing that kind of song (or album for that matter). I am all ears man.

And as long as its apparently part of the SIDHY video ( really an awesome catch. I am not sure anyone else even noticed it), it would be very GNR if

"How I Cry?" turns out to be a song title that appears on a future album...or part of a chorus to one of the "Big Guns". 

[jazjme]

wow and the plot thickens. Id like to know also the story.

[SINSHINE]

Tarrantino uses this in his films

Care to elaborate on this? I concider myself a pretty big QT fan, but aside from very intentional on screen drug use, I can't recall any underlying drug references.
 

[directionality]

I noticed that at the end of SIDHY there was some GNR songs in the credits and one of them was called How I Cry?

Edit: The video of SIDHY.

I just watched it and in the credits it clearly says "Don't Cry," not "How I Cry."

[WhatIsItMan]

I don't think it was done intentionally by GN'R.  Perhaps whoever was finalizing the tracks was a stoner, and saw it was going to be like 4:18 or whatever and rounded it off to 4:20.   

"T minus 1:09 and counting" during Perfect Crime on the other hand...