Incorrectly labeled demo songs.

[Loaded NightraiN]

So you're tellin me West did that Solo in Crash Diet and not Slash?!!? I find that near impossible to believe....

[the dirt]

So you're tellin me West did that Solo in Crash Diet and not Slash?!!? I find that near impossible to believe....

It's highly likely.

[31illusions]

Posted by: the dirt?
Quote from: loaded nightrain on Today at 08:48:09 PM
So you're tellin me West did that Solo in Crash Diet and not Slash?!!? I find that near impossible to believe....

It's highly likely.

I say it's 100% likely. To me, those songs (not including Ain't Goin' Down) are all West Arkeen. None of those songs sound remotely like slash in any way to me .

[kunzerd]

Posted by: the dirt?
Quote from: loaded nightrain on Today at 08:48:09 PM
So you're tellin me West did that Solo in Crash Diet and not Slash?!!? I find that near impossible to believe....

It's highly likely.

I say it's 100% likely. To me, those songs (not including Ain't Goin' Down) are all West Arkeen. None of those songs sound remotely like slash in any way to me .

i agree. and i also think they are super old and probably predate AFD. crash diet anyway. it sounds more like a hollywood rose song than gnr and i think its incorrectly labled as one.

[25]

crash diet anyway. it sounds more like a hollywood rose song than gnr and i think its incorrectly labled as one.

I think it's a case of Axl having first dibs on the song, which ended up being recorded by asphalt ballet after GNR turned it down.


Anyone remember the official story behind it?

[Loaded NightraiN]

Posted by: the dirt?
Quote from: loaded nightrain on Today at 08:48:09 PM
So you're tellin me West did that Solo in Crash Diet and not Slash?!!? I find that near impossible to believe....

It's highly likely.

I say it's 100% likely. To me, those songs (not including Ain't Goin' Down) are all West Arkeen. None of those songs sound remotely like slash in any way to me .

Its not so much that it didnt sound like Slash, but i had no idea West could play like that!!
I always just figured Slash was going for a different sound

[25]

Its not so much that it didnt sound like Slash, but i had no idea West could play like that!!
I always just figured Slash was going for a different sound

Wes also wrote the guitar solo for "the garden" which took slash forever to get right, according to slash himself.

[grabaraxl]

i had a bootleg with all those songs before UYI was out, and i even asked Adler one of the times i met him about those songs, those are all pre-appetite tracks

[jarmo]

i had a bootleg with all those songs before UYI was out, and i even asked Adler one of the times i met him about those songs, those are all pre-appetite tracks

Yeah, according to Slash, "Crash Diet" is really old.... He was asked about it on Swedish TV in 1997 or something and, as far as I remember, he said they weren't even thinking about including it on the Use Your Illusion albums.



/jarmo

[jimb0]

I fucking love crash diet.  I wish Wes had stayed alive and replaced Slash, that dude could write really good shit.

[25]

i had a bootleg with all those songs before UYI was out, and i even asked Adler one of the times i met him about those songs, those are all pre-appetite tracks

Yeah, according to Slash, "Crash Diet" is really old.... He was asked about it on Swedish TV in 1997 or something and, as far as I remember, he said they weren't even thinking about including it on the Use Your Illusion albums.



/jarmo

Crash Diet is credited to "West Arkeen, Danny Clarke, Axl Rose, Del James"
I may be wrong here, but don't all of the tracks on which Arkeen and Del James are both credited pre-date AFD? "The Garden" and "Bad Obsession" pre-date AFD and credit those guys, AND made it onto UYI.  If those things are true, then Crash Diet must be pretty old too.

However, as to whether it was being considered for UYI, Asphalt Ballet didn't record the song until 1992/3 which seems to be far too coincidental. And given that so many of the other older tracks made it onto UYI, it seems likely that Crash Diet would have been considered as seriously as the others from that period.  Maybe it just wasn't being considered by Slash 

[cmpaller]

They are demos from UYI era all right.  I have had copies since 1991.  They are on the Rumbo Studio session cd.  Very rough stuff but GNR all the way.