There is (almost) no competition

[GNRfan2008]

I must say that GNR is picking a very good time to release the album. The music scene, to me, is DEAD! Hopefully they can knock a little life into it.

Yeah I agree. Music sucks nowadays, but apparently a lot of folks are buying the junk that's being force-fed to them. The VMA's reminded me of BET instead of MTV. Oops, I forgot that they're the same thing now.

[Booker Floyd]

were the contraband demos as good as the CD leaks?

There were no Contraband demos before the albums release.

[jarmo]

I think the record company people are the ones doing the worrying.




/jarmo

[estrangedpaul]

Funny... This is the SAME thing people said before Velvet Revolver released Contraband...

Yes and Contraband was very successful...the fastest selling debut album ever. Chinese Democracy would be a success if it done as well as Contraband, which I'm sure it will.

[duga]

were the contraband demos as good as the CD leaks?

There were no Contraband demos before the albums release.

Set me free sounds like demo 

[mikegiuliana]

It is time to release Chinese Democracy. The road is open for a massive musical and commercial success.

I think many of you are really going to be let down with album sales.. You really think the world is sitting around waiting for a 44 year old man in braides to turn the rock world upside down... The next big musical revolution happens with young people hungry to make it, people the youth can understand... Not from a guy who wears a new suit every night and lives in a mansion...

When I was a teenager I didn't look at people in their 40's as cool... We're talking mainstream here...

[mikegiuliana]

I must say that GNR is picking a very good time to release the album. The music scene, to me, is DEAD! Hopefully they can knock a little life into it.

Yeah I agree. Music sucks nowadays, but apparently a lot of folks are buying the junk that's being force-fed to them. The VMA's reminded me of BET instead of MTV. Oops, I forgot that they're the same thing now.

every generation has the crappy music, but to many it's not crap.. I had new kids menudo and all those other people like tiffany kylie, debbie gibson etc... many people viewed hair metal as force fed crap too... What one doesn't like another loves.. grunge, r&B pop rap etc..

[Jbat81]

It is time to release Chinese Democracy. The road is open for a massive musical and commercial success.

I think many of you are really going to be let down with album sales.. You really think the world is sitting around waiting for a 44 year old man in braides to turn the rock world upside down... The next big musical revolution happens with young people hungry to make it, people the youth can understand... Not from a guy who wears a new suit every night and lives in a mansion...

When I was a teenager I didn't look at people in their 40's as cool... We're talking mainstream here...

I agree wit u Mike... Alot of people think that Chinese Democracy will debut at number 1 and etc.... I think it'll break the top 10 but that may be it.. Trust me, i want this to be as big or bigger then the "old" GNR but, thats far from the truth...
Jbat

[mikegiuliana]

It is time to release Chinese Democracy. The road is open for a massive musical and commercial success.

I think many of you are really going to be let down with album sales.. You really think the world is sitting around waiting for a 44 year old man in braides to turn the rock world upside down... The next big musical revolution happens with young people hungry to make it, people the youth can understand... Not from a guy who wears a new suit every night and lives in a mansion...

When I was a teenager I didn't look at people in their 40's as cool... We're talking mainstream here...

I agree wit u Mike... Alot of people think that Chinese Democracy will debut at number 1 and etc.... I think it'll break the top 10 but that may be it.. Trust me, i want this to be as big or bigger then the "old" GNR but, thats far from the truth...
Jbat

it can easily debut in number one, I just don't see the 800k to 1 million in the first week or 5-10 million in sales.. When I talk sales I mean the usa because I live here, also the 7 million for the illusions of the 15 million for afd is usa charts..

[pollyblue]

were the contraband demos as good as the CD leaks?

yes i liked them very much. some are even better then the final tracks on the cd.

[TrueRock&Roll]

I think of it like this.... Greatest hits came out at number 3.  This didn't exactly have the same anticipation as Chinese Democracy.  Plus, greatest hits most likely introduced a whole lot of kids to Guns N Roses.  I believe this album will do very well. 

[nesquick]

It is time to release Chinese Democracy. The road is open for a massive musical and commercial success.

I think many of you are really going to be let down with album sales.. You really think the world is sitting around waiting for a 44 year old man in braides to turn the rock world upside down... The next big musical revolution happens with young people hungry to make it, people the youth can understand... Not from a guy who wears a new suit every night and lives in a mansion...

When I was a teenager I didn't look at people in their 40's as cool... We're talking mainstream here...

I agree wit u Mike... Alot of people think that Chinese Democracy will debut at number 1 and etc.... I think it'll break the top 10 but that may be it.. Trust me, i want this to be as big or bigger then the "old" GNR but, thats far from the truth...
Jbat

it can easily debut in number one, I just don't see the 800k to 1 million in the first week or 5-10 million in sales.. When I talk sales I mean the usa because I live here, also the 7 million for the illusions of the 15 million for afd is usa charts..

So? because you live in America you don't care of the rest of the world when it comes to music? how close minded it is...
I'm French, I live in France, and I alway speak about worldwide sales, you know, it just seems natural to me. There's a WORLD outside you know, people are like you, they look like you, they also listen to music. No this is not a conspiration therory, they are not martians..
There are human beeings outside America who buy GN'R records aswell! I tell you ?

[russtcb]

It is time to release Chinese Democracy. The road is open for a massive musical and commercial success.

I think many of you are really going to be let down with album sales.. You really think the world is sitting around waiting for a 44 year old man in braides to turn the rock world upside down... The next big musical revolution happens with young people hungry to make it, people the youth can understand... Not from a guy who wears a new suit every night and lives in a mansion...

When I was a teenager I didn't look at people in their 40's as cool... We're talking mainstream here...

Is that why Floyd, The Eagles, The Stones and bands like them still sell millions of albums every year?

I still maintain that I could care less how much CD sells anyways. If it sells 10 copies and I like it, good enough for me. I'm not a GNR fan to impress anyone else.

If it sells 100 million copies and I hate it, I won't think any better of it because 100 million other people seem to like it.

[mikegiuliana]

but why do I care how many albums are sold elshwere,I go by where I live,, I go by the list here, I go by the platinum list here.. Everytime I hear about gh's sales it always posted in the usa.. I'm sure robbie williams sells millions in the UK but I wouldn't know who he is if he walked donw the street here.. Most true success in album sales and worldwide fame stems from The USA.. Don't get so touchy

sure they sell old albums, not new one rus, everyone buys the classic

also the eagles and stone's following is ten times the gnr following..

[mikegiuliana]

but why do I care how many albums are sold elshwere,I go by where I live,, I go by the list here, I go by the platinum list here.. Everytime I hear about gh's sales it always posted in the usa.. I'm sure robbie williams sells millions in the UK but I wouldn't know who he is if he walked donw the street here.. Most true success in album sales and worldwide fame stems from The USA.. Don't get so touchy

sure they sell old albums, not new one rus, everyone buys the classic

also the eagles and stone's following is ten times the gnr following..

sales are important if you keep talking taking over the poor poor rock scene of today

[russtcb]

but why do I care how many albums are sold elshwere,I go by where I live,, I go by the list here, I go by the platinum list here.. Everytime I hear about gh's sales it always posted in the usa.. I'm sure robbie williams sells millions in the UK but I wouldn't know who he is if he walked donw the street here.. Most true success in album sales and worldwide fame stems from The USA.. Don't get so touchy

sure they sell old albums, not new one rus, everyone buys the classic

also the eagles and stone's following is ten times the gnr following..

On a side note, it's funny you say that about Robbie Williams. My wife and I were at the Hard Rock in Vegas about a year and a half ago and he was checking in right next to us. NO ONE else in the area had any idea who he was.

I happen to like his voice so I asked to take a picture with him. My wife had never even heard of him and when she saw him on my Live8 DVD she was like "holy shit! Thats THAT guy?!". It was pretty funny.

ON TOPIC THOUGH:

My point is that I listen to music for me. I like the new members of GNR because I like them, not because I have anything to prove. I think Chinese Democracy will sell well because I think it will be a good rock album.

Whatever way the numbers fall won't matter to me because only my opinion of the music will matter to me.

[mikegiuliana]

Well I nthink it will initially sell because it has the gnr name stamped on it... people hear new gnr album fist one in 15 years of new music should shake some things up...

No doubt a good album is a good album regardless of the sales..

I remember when vr won the grammy and everyone was like that's because today's music sucks, but if new gnr won a grammy it would be because of how talented axl is All of a sudden the grammys will be credible again...

I think sales are important if your label has been that patient and they sunk so much money into the project..

[NickNasty]

think sales are important if your label has been that patient and they sunk so much money into the project.

great point. the label is looking for a return on their, shall we say, substantial investment.

as for the whole idea of competition---i've honestly never gotten the whole logic- 'oh, well you cant release the album now b/c artist x' is also releasing one.

when multiple artists i like come out with new albums at the same time, i will pick up both albums at some point. i imagine most people do the same. album prices are still grossly inflated, but not enough that  people with a regular income wont pick up multiple new cds.

the real competition comes when jockeying for concert ticket sales, because those involve alot more money and time on the part of the buyer, and guns will have alot of competition for that money this fall.

[WARose]

so robbie williams isn`t that popular in the US?

i think he`s probably the biggest star in germany right now

he could play where ever he wants and sell out stadiums in a day... and not just in germany, but in the rest of europe as well i guess...( i honestly don`t know. i`m really out of the loop regarding stars/new bands/music of today for the most part )

anyways.....  i guess he`s able to be REALLY, REALLY huge, without being big in the US...

[Where is Hassan Nasrallah ?]

DMX last album kicks ass, there is competition, DARKMAN X will bite axl's head off





i kid i kid !