Being axl said this year why not give a release date at the vmas?

[russtcb]

I'd say the Tuesday before Thanksgiving so it is in the stores for the biggest shopping day of the year.

Only in America, so please stop thinking about JUST yourselves.

Thanksgiving is ONLY celebrated in America, not Europe, Australasia and Asia where they will get massive sales too.

I have a grasp on the fact that Thanksgiving is an American holiday. No one ever said that the whole world celebrates it.

The point was that the album and new band are going to have the hardest time putting up big sales numbers in America. It would make sense to release the album on that day here to get the best boost in sales since the album is expected to do well in other countries on its own.

So you see, no one was thinking about "JUST" themselves.

[pilferk]

I'd say the Tuesday before Thanksgiving so it is in the stores for the biggest shopping day of the year.

Only in America, so please stop thinking about JUST yourselves.

Thanksgiving is ONLY celebrated in America, not Europe, Australasia and Asia where they will get massive sales too.

Which would be a good point...except it's not.

1) For GnR, from a global standpoint, the US accounts for more sales than any other single country.

2) The day after Thanksgiving is either the largest, or one of the larges, shopping days of the year (it waffles with the day after Christmas and the Saturday before Christmas) in the US.

3) Other products, which have global media appeal (video games, DVD's, music) have, in the past, chosen the week leading up to Thanksgiving as their release date for EXACTLY that reason.  And it's been a successful tactic for them.

This isn't about where a holiday is, or isn't, celebrated.? It's about business.? And the fact is that, in their largest single market, they will gain the best exposure of their material by having it out right around Thanksgiving.? They may choose, for whatever reasons, NOT to release it then...but to ignore the possibility simply because you feel the Holiday is ethnocentric isn't realistic.? Other companies have chosen those dates, historically, for exactly that reason...even though their products ALSO sell well around the world.

[pilferk]

What day is Thanksgiving?

Thursday, November 23rd.

Which means those ascribing to the theory it'll come out before then would be looking at November 21st.

It's as good a guess as any, I suppose.

[russtcb]

What day is Thanksgiving?

Thursday, November 23rd.

Which means those ascribing to the theory it'll come out before then would be looking at November 21st.

It's as good a guess as any, I suppose.

To me it seemed like a good guess no matter what country you're from. 

[russtcb]

I think it'll either be 13th or 20th

Of November?

And also, can someone for another country confirm something for me?

Does everywhere else but America release it's albums on Monday?

[Neemo]

to answer the thread title...because it's not the time or place to announce it. I doubt that will hear anything until the very last minute... and there will be no promotion whatsoever before the release IMO.

I say after we hear officially about the album release date that there will be less than a month till the actual release

[crofty]

What does thanksgiving celebrate? I know there's a turkey involved.
I agree, november time seems good though personally, I'd like the band to come to my house (ok, the hotel where I'm living till maybe february) and do a gig and then hand me the CD. also I'd like them to bring beer. But yeah, Thanksgiving, that was my question.

[Neemo]

What does thanksgiving celebrate? I know there's a turkey involved.
I agree, november time seems good though personally, I'd like the band to come to my house (ok, the hotel where I'm living till maybe february) and do a gig and then hand me the CD. also I'd like them to bring beer. But yeah, Thanksgiving, that was my question.

thanking god for finding a fertile new land...i think

[ppbebe]

the almighty God if not a turkey?

@Kayoss read the thread and see how absurd the idea of useing Vmas for the announcement is and why no one do it.
Or rather use common sense. it should tell you that would be a stupid stunt.
Does everywhere else but America release it's albums on Monday?

I know in same countries they release albums on anyday in a week save national holidays

Are you kidding? The demos for Better, IRS and TWAT sound more fully-developed than half of the songs on the UYIs. Would you rather have those three or Shotgun Blues, You Aint the First and My World?
 

Although My world is my fav  off UYIs, I'd take silkworms over it.

[Skinflick]

What does thanksgiving celebrate? I know there's a turkey involved.
I agree, november time seems good though personally, I'd like the band to come to my house (ok, the hotel where I'm living till maybe february) and do a gig and then hand me the CD. also I'd like them to bring beer. But yeah, Thanksgiving, that was my question.

thanking god for finding a fertile new land...i think

IT STARTED WITH THE PILGRAMS AND NATIVE AMERICANS EXCHANGING GIFTS, FOOD AND PEACEFULNESS THAT THEY SHARED WITH EACH OTHER ONE DAY IN THE FALL...There is more to it but way too much to write......This was all before more white immigrants came to the country and took the Indians land and killed most of them.

[russtcb]

What does thanksgiving celebrate? I know there's a turkey involved.
I agree, november time seems good though personally, I'd like the band to come to my house (ok, the hotel where I'm living till maybe february) and do a gig and then hand me the CD. also I'd like them to bring beer. But yeah, Thanksgiving, that was my question.

thanking god for finding a fertile new land...i think

Without getting too far off topic, it's supposed to be about how the Pilgrims and Indians helped each other survive their first winter together. If you talk to Native Americans, you'll get a much different version though...

[pilferk]

What does thanksgiving celebrate? I know there's a turkey involved.
I agree, november time seems good though personally, I'd like the band to come to my house (ok, the hotel where I'm living till maybe february) and do a gig and then hand me the CD. also I'd like them to bring beer. But yeah, Thanksgiving, that was my question.

Everything you ever wanted to know about thanksgiving and probably much much much more:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving

[a.]

I'd say the Tuesday before Thanksgiving so it is in the stores for the biggest shopping day of the year.

Only in America, so please stop thinking about JUST yourselves.

Thanksgiving is ONLY celebrated in America, not Europe, Australasia and Asia where they will get massive sales too.

We celebrate Thanksgiving in Canada too, it's in October though, and considered "the real" Thanksgiving. LOL.

a.

[CAFC Nick]

If they want to maximise sales, release it around Christmas.

[pilferk]

If they want to maximise sales, release it around Christmas.

That's what they said...because, in the largest single market, "around Christmas" starts the day after Thanksgiving...and a LOT of the holiday shopping gets done that day, and the weekend after.

And, again, the strategy pays off...which is why many products adopt it.

[Neemo]

We celebrate Thanksgiving in Canada too, it's in October though, and considered "the real" Thanksgiving. LOL.

a.

me too...and i agree

[Shirell]

Maybe he doesnt know yet.... 

[TrixAreForKids]

Maybe he doesnt know yet....?

Nothing is finalised yet.

[WARose]

I'd say the Tuesday before Thanksgiving so it is in the stores for the biggest shopping day of the year.

Only in America, so please stop thinking about JUST yourselves.

Thanksgiving is ONLY celebrated in America, not Europe, Australasia and Asia where they will get massive sales too.

well   actually there`s thanksgiving in germany.....  but it`s nothing major anyways.... basically a normal day.....

[Scabbie]

whatever day its released on will be an international day of thanksgiving for guns fans!