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Re: A solution to resolve the solos' problem at the shows
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August 30, 2006, 05:50:38 PM »
WTF? The solos are great.
The people dissing Robin's in particular have no sense of art or of music. You are mindless.
The problems with the solos is merely the timing of them. They are not spaced out, so in some gigs they did about 1 song in 4 slots.
For the band to get better reviews they need to drop the old shyte from the setlist and play mostly new material. A great idea, just my little idea and not one I would expect to happen in the real world, would be to release the album before touring again. That way people will know the many great songs from the album and will reciprocate their affection towards the band. I'd say play Jungle, SCOM, YCBM, NR and Paradise City and fill the rest of the setlist with new material.
The solos are here to stay however as Axl needs his time between songs these days.
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i think each guitarist deserves to get 1 solo each to showcase their talents. I'm all for Dizzy doing a piano solo too. What i would like to see is, while the crew is moving the piano after the blues, they could play the opening part of Dead Horse- the acoustic sounding parts- then go into the next song. Then while the piano is being moved after NR, they could play Yesterdays. We need more Illusion era material. Sometimes i just think maybe Axl is holding onto the illusion era material for if/when a reunion ever were to happen.
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A solution to resolve the problem at the shows
if you dont like it, don't fucking go
What we get now is much better than what they did on the Illusions tour. Whenever I'd put the tokyo DVD on with my friends, they'd always make me skip over the drum and guitar solos, and they bitched about how Slash sat there and playd the same notes over and over and over again for 5 minutes.
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Solos and band jams are all part of rock and roll.
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Re: A solution to resolve the solos' problem at the shows
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Quote from: WAT-EVER, ?i'm totally buggin on August 30, 2006, 07:33:53 AM
the solos are great
the jams are great
the interludes are great
i'm going to a fuckin concert i dont wanna listen to 15 songs straight from a CD.
i want an experience.
Amen to that!
Solos are one of the things that make a GNR concert!
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Re: A solution to resolve the solos' problem at the shows
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Quote from: Jim Bob on August 30, 2006, 08:40:51 PM
A solution to resolve the problem at the shows
if you dont like it, don't fucking go
What we get now is much better than what they did on the Illusions tour. Whenever I'd put the tokyo DVD on with my friends, they'd always make me skip over the drum and guitar solos, and they bitched about how Slash sat there and playd the same notes over and over and over again for 5 minutes.
Nicely put. I get that alot from people too. And I can't help but totally agree with the first comment. If you don't like it, don't go. Obviously there's just NO WAY to make everyone happy with the show. So I guess the band should just do what they want so at least they're enjoying it.
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Re: A solution to resolve the solos' problem at the shows
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August 31, 2006, 01:51:59 PM »
The only good solution would be for Tommy to do a song off his solo album. Not only is that album great, it also shows off not only the guitar players, but a very very importand member of GNR.
Imagine him doing a medley of some Beatles song or something and then one off his solo album. I heard his stuff live and he's a great singer too.
Let Tommy do one!
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Re: A solution to resolve the solos' problem at the shows
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Quote from: russtcb on August 31, 2006, 10:28:21 AM
Quote from: Jim Bob on August 30, 2006, 08:40:51 PM
A solution to resolve the problem at the shows
if you dont like it, don't fucking go
What we get now is much better than what they did on the Illusions tour. Whenever I'd put the tokyo DVD on with my friends, they'd always make me skip over the drum and guitar solos, and they bitched about how Slash sat there and playd the same notes over and over and over again for 5 minutes.
Nicely put. I get that alot from people too. And I can't help but totally agree with the first comment. If you don't like it, don't go. Obviously there's just NO WAY to make everyone happy with the show. So I guess the band should just do what they want so at least they're enjoying it.
Exactly. Next we'll have people telling the band that they messed up the track order on CD or something.
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Whoa.... what was that!? It went by really really fast. Ahh yes, the point. You missed it.
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i'm really hoping that at the very least, the solos change on this tour!!!!!!
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personally, it makes little sense to me to have a guitar solo, wheel on a piano, have a piano solo, one song with a piano, wheel the piano off, have another solo, then a rock song, then wheel the piano back on, another piano solo, and then a piano song, then a guitar song, then a guitar solo, then a cover of a James Brown song or something. I'm there for the music, not the fucking about.
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Re: A solution to resolve the solos' problem at the shows
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September 12, 2006, 01:49:21 PM »
The solos arent the problem but the way they are configured into the setlist.
The old band took like 20-25 min of solos but mostly one after the other and mostly after atleast 1 hour of straight rock. I think they should arrange them so it doesnt seem there is a solo every other song.
Just my two cent.s.
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'They" out there playing ? NOt to bust your pimples but " they " are not the orginal line-up , how can one say " just be glad "they are touring again , bbf and fortus were not there while I was in high school , and all the stuff that went along with being a teenager at the time back in 1989-1993 .THe first reason four 4 guitar solo's is not to introduce the crwod but to allow Axl to go back stage and rest his voice he gets very tired in his voice , because of dancing and singing at tthe same time .....
i think the setlists, are fine , people who dont look at the net will be alittle uneasy
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Re: A solution to resolve the solos' problem at the shows
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Quote from: Skinflick on August 30, 2006, 05:41:56 PM
Quote from: HannaHat on August 30, 2006, 05:34:01 PM
Quote from: nesquick on August 30, 2006, 06:54:30 AM
I think it would be a better idea to play Sossego again for Robin than playing 2 solos in the show wich break the momentum.
Most of people who went to see GNR in their European Tour though there were too many solos/jams/interludes and that they were also too long (including myself). 45 minutes of solos and jams are really boring and not interesting for the crowd. By playing "Sossego", robin would put the audience in his pocket because it's a great song. Same for Dizzy, a piano intro to "the Blues" is enough, no need to make an entire cover song on piano (ziggy stardust)
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a piano intro to "The Blues", it's too long. Same for Bumblefoot, no need to play 2 solos (one shred solo + don't cry on guitar), choose one,? and finally same for Fortus (altough his solo at the paris show was one of the highlight of the show for me anyway), no need to play a solo and "beautifull", here again it's too long.
So what about playing "Sossego" (Robin) (4 minutes), "beautifull" (Richard and Robin) (4 minutes), "piano intro to the blues (Dizzy)" (2 minutes) and....that's it? 10 minutes of jam instead of 45 minutes. Cut also the bossa nova interludes between the songs wich are also a loss of time. Don't wait more than 30 seconds between each songs. Be more efficient. Don't you think it would be enough and less boring? I think the shows would gain in quality. The solos are good when they don't "eat" the show every 10 minutes. 2 or 3 are enough, no need to stop the show every 3 songs for a solo. No need 7 or 8 solos it's pointless. What do you think?
I think Axl knows what hes doing....how many world tours have you been on???
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....Jesus Christ people.....we should be thankful that they are out playing music instead of being concerned with fuckin' solos....who gives a fuck?........obviously.........but you know what I mean.....FUCK....too many people bitch about useless nonsense....be happy you can eat solid food and go from there.....
These are my favorite posts... like its a bad thing to want the band to improve their show and let people have a better time than they normally would. 'Just be happy with the fact that they are playing shows', why the hell should I 'just be happy' with that??? Do I appreciate the fact that they are touring?? Of course I do, but I am not happy about the long solos and the recycled set list. Does that mean that I didn't have a good time at those shows? No, not at all, but I would have had a better time if they cut out the solos and played some different material. I will go ahead and say that I speak for the majority on that one.
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God bless the solos. Axl gets a breather, I get some beer.
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Re: A solution to resolve the solos' problem at the shows
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Quote from: Jim Bob on August 30, 2006, 08:40:51 PM
A solution to resolve the problem at the shows
if you dont like it, don't fucking go
What we get now is much better than what they did on the Illusions tour. Whenever I'd put the tokyo DVD on with my friends, they'd always make me skip over the drum and guitar solos, and they bitched about how Slash sat there and playd the same notes over and over and over again for 5 minutes.
Nicely put. I get that alot from people too. And I can't help but totally agree with the first comment. If you don't like it, don't go. Obviously there's just NO WAY to make everyone happy with the show. So I guess the band should just do what they want so at least they're enjoying it.
Exactly. Next we'll have people telling the band that they messed up the track order on CD or something.
Oh I have no doubt in my mind as to that.
Like I said, if those guys (GNR) are happy playing what they're playing then I'm down with it.
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