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I think it would be a better idea to play Sossego again for Robin than playing 2 solos in the show wich break the momentum.
Most of people who went to see GNR in their European Tour though there were too many solos/jams/interludes and that they were also too long (including myself). 45 minutes of solos and jams are really boring and not interesting for the crowd. By playing "Sossego", robin would put the audience in his pocket because it's a great song. Same for Dizzy, a piano intro to "the Blues" is enough, no need to make an entire cover song on piano (ziggy stardust)
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a piano intro to "The Blues", it's too long. Same for Bumblefoot, no need to play 2 solos (one shred solo + don't cry on guitar), choose one,? and finally same for Fortus (altough his solo at the paris show was one of the highlight of the show for me anyway), no need to play a solo and "beautifull", here again it's too long.
So what about playing "Sossego" (Robin) (4 minutes), "beautifull" (Richard and Robin) (4 minutes), "piano intro to the blues (Dizzy)" (2 minutes) and....that's it? 10 minutes of jam instead of 45 minutes. Cut also the bossa nova interludes between the songs wich are also a loss of time. Don't wait more than 30 seconds between each songs. Be more efficient. Don't you think it would be enough and less boring? I think the shows would gain in quality. The solos are good when they don't "eat" the show every 10 minutes. 2 or 3 are enough, no need to stop the show every 3 songs for a solo. No need 7 or 8 solos it's pointless. What do you think?
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Quote from: nesquick on August 30, 2006, 06:54:30 AM
I think it would be a better idea to play Sossego again for Robin than playing 2 solos in the show wich break the momentum.
Most of people who went to see GNR in their European Tour though there were too many solos/jams/interludes and that they were also too long (including myself). 45 minutes of solos and jams are really boring and not interesting for the crowd. By playing "Sossego", robin would put the audience in his pocket because it's a great song. Same for Dizzy, a piano intro to "the Blues" is enough, no need to make an entire cover song on piano (ziggy stardust)
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a piano intro to "The Blues", it's too long. Same for Bumblefoot, no need to play 2 solos (one shred solo + don't cry on guitar), choose one, and finally same for Fortus (altough his solo at the paris show was one of the highlight of the show for me anyway), no need to play a solo and "beautifull", here again it's too long.
So what about playing "Sossego" (Robin), "beautifull" (Richard and Robin), "piano intro to the blues (Dizzy)" and....that's it? Don't you think it would be enough and less boring? I think the shows would gain in quality. The solos are good when they don't "eat" the show every 10 minutes. 2 or 3 are enough, no need to stop the show every 3 songs for a solo. What do you think?
The solos in general don't bother me at all. I actually really like the Beautiful bit. If anything, I could do w/o Robin's rambling bits here and there. Sossego did kick ass though.
Didn't he only play that because it's got something to do with Brazil though?
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Re: A solution to resolve the solos' problem at the shows
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I guess you never saw the old band then, have you watched the Tokyo videos? They jammed out quite a bit back in the day too.
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Yes, but those jams were good.
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Quote from: Miggy on August 30, 2006, 07:18:14 AM
Yes, but those jams were good.
Go and enjoy your Matt Sorum drum solo then.
Dizzy used Ziggy Stardust (for example) as the intro to The Blues. In case you didn't notice.
I think the whole idea of the European tour was to introduce this band to the public.
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the solos are great
the jams are great
the interludes are great
i'm going to a fuckin concert i dont wanna listen to 15 songs straight from a CD.
i want an experience.
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They have always, always done solos! Go and watch 5 minutes Slash solo before Sweet Child O'Mine, Gilby's Wild Horses, Slash - Voodoo Child, Matt drum solo with Duff and there was even a horn solos back than. It's not just now. They've always done solos.
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They could improvise, there were alot of songs the old band would improvise on either at the being or in the middle of songs or both. Instead of having so many solos they could just extend the start of a song (instrumentally) or break down the middle of a song then pick it back up.
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Quote from: russtcb on August 30, 2006, 06:59:02 AM
Didn't he only play that because it's got something to do with Brazil though?
Yes, it's a brazilian old funk song... I don't think people would get it if Robin plays this solo in other country (even because the lyrics are in portuguese).
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Quote from: eggers on August 30, 2006, 07:01:12 AM
I guess you never saw the old band then, have you watched the Tokyo videos? They jammed out quite a bit back in the day too.
exactly. the old band did freakin huge number of solos, especially to the end of UYI tour. that was just... band introductions, matt drum solo, matt & duff drum solo, gilby guitar solo, slash guitar solo, slash guitar solo - godfather theme, now some song, then wild horses, imagine and patience, then some intro before SCOM, piano solo before November Rain and so on. so what the fuck is wrong? Guns are on tour and people keep bitching. just like always
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Re: A solution to resolve the solos' problem at the shows
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While I don't like the solos either, it is better than sitting through a 15 minute Knockin on Heaven's door, a 15 minute Slash wankfest, and a 10 minute Sorum sledgehammer display.
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Quote from: russtcb on August 30, 2006, 06:59:02 AM
Didn't he only play that because it's got something to do with Brazil though?
Yes, it's a brazilian old funk song... I don't think people would get it if Robin plays this solo in other country (even because the lyrics are in portuguese).
Thats what I thought. I think he played an old folk song from another country at some point on the Euro tour this year as well.
I can understand wanting the band to switch it up, but I also want to see them do their thing.
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I think the solos to a certain degree are there to give the band breaks. I prefer that the show continues on without any 10 minute break rather than having one and letting the audience get restless. My parents went to see the Eagles in Scotland and the took a 20 minute break. Funnily enough my mum and dad also went to the GN'R show in Scotland (not with me - they were seated) and thought the solos were good to keep the show moving.
I like Robin's solos the best. The distortion he puts on the guitar is awesome! But I agree that he should play Sossego.
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Quote from: nesquick on August 30, 2006, 06:54:30 AM
I think it would be a better idea to play Sossego again for Robin than playing 2 solos in the show wich break the momentum.
Most of people who went to see GNR in their European Tour though there were too many solos/jams/interludes and that they were also too long (including myself). 45 minutes of solos and jams are really boring and not interesting for the crowd. By playing "Sossego", robin would put the audience in his pocket because it's a great song. Same for Dizzy, a piano intro to "the Blues" is enough, no need to make an entire cover song on piano (ziggy stardust)
AND
a piano intro to "The Blues", it's too long. Same for Bumblefoot, no need to play 2 solos (one shred solo + don't cry on guitar), choose one,? and finally same for Fortus (altough his solo at the paris show was one of the highlight of the show for me anyway), no need to play a solo and "beautifull", here again it's too long.
So what about playing "Sossego" (Robin) (4 minutes), "beautifull" (Richard and Robin) (4 minutes), "piano intro to the blues (Dizzy)" (2 minutes) and....that's it? 10 minutes of jam instead of 45 minutes. Cut also the bossa nova interludes between the songs wich are also a loss of time. Don't wait more than 30 seconds between each songs. Be more efficient. Don't you think it would be enough and less boring? I think the shows would gain in quality. The solos are good when they don't "eat" the show every 10 minutes. 2 or 3 are enough, no need to stop the show every 3 songs for a solo. No need 7 or 8 solos it's pointless. What do you think?
To whom are you making this suggestion? The band is playing the shows the way they want to, and as far as I know, no one here has any influence over that.
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i really liked the beautiful solo, dizzys piano solo and don`t cry, the rest is useless.......
but well.... i`d take anything over a 20 minutes matt borum solo
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The solos are a good time to try and get the security to give you some water.
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Or we could cut off the guitarist's hands! although probably that's not for the best.
I quite dig them. "beautiful" rocked my fucken' socks off. I was probably digging that more than you could be mine.
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As cool as it would be to hear Sossego again (great song) I really enjoy the way the solos are currently played.
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Quote from: jarmo on August 30, 2006, 07:29:16 AM
Quote from: Miggy on August 30, 2006, 07:18:14 AM
Yes, but those jams were good.
Go and enjoy your Matt Sorum drum solo then.?
Good idea.
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A solution to resolve the solos' problem at the shows
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