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« on: August 26, 2006, 01:12:48 PM »

I know I heard Axl say this back in 1999 or so, and by listening to the song and reading the lyrics, it really does not have to do with that. So did Axl rewrite the lyrics or was he misquoted, or am I thinking of another song?

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« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2006, 01:14:14 PM »

It would help if you linked to the original quote.
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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2006, 01:21:43 PM »

It would help if you linked to the original quote.

I cannot find it, that is why I was asking. It was always in the  back of my mind that TWAT was about Axls childhood abuse. So if I am mistaken that he said that, what song did he say was.
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« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2006, 01:34:36 PM »

I'm pretty sure he never put a name to the song. I think it was in the same article that was written about a John Lennon tribute song (CITR?). I don't believe there were any quotes from Axl: it might've been a Kurt Loder interview, probably around 98-2002. I'm too jazzed about my tix, and I have to go to work, but I'll look for em as soon as I can.

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EDIT: Here it is. http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=37 Yahoo Search is MAGIC!!!
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« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2006, 01:36:18 PM »

I'm pretty sure he never put a name to the song. I think it was in the same article that was written about a John Lennon tribute song (CITR?). I don't believe there were any quotes from Axl: it might've been a Kurt Loder interview, probably around 98-2002. I'm too jazzed about my tix, and I have to go to work, but I'll look for em as soon as I can.

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Oh so he could have been talking about there is a song on CD about my childhood abuse then there is TWAT etc etc. And since it was so long ago my mind just put those two together
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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2006, 01:36:46 PM »

I don't think Axl himself related any of the songs he was working on to his chilhood abuse.
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« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2006, 01:36:51 PM »

I know I heard Axl say this back in 1999 or so, and by listening to the song and reading the lyrics, it really does not have to do with that. So did Axl rewrite the lyrics or was he misquoted, or am I thinking of another song?




It could be about a lot of things....past things, such as Stephanie Seymour, band breaking up.

Don't really know but that is my fav new song peace
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« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2006, 01:40:26 PM »

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=37
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« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2006, 01:46:26 PM »


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"With 18 songs, the group's next album (they haven't released anything since 1993's "The Spaghetti Incident?") is a collection of songs, which in Axl's opinion are as good as "November Rain". Among them "Madagascar", included in the show on Sunday. The CD will include a tribute to John Lennon and another about child abuse"


But I dont think that was it, because I still had it assiocated with TWAT, but hopefully the song will still appear on Cd but i would like  to hear it, I am sure its a powerful song.
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« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2006, 01:46:48 PM »


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With 18 songs, the group's next album (they haven't released anything since 1993's "The Spaghetti Incident?") is a collection of songs, which in Axl's opinion are as good as "November Rain". Among them "Madagascar", included in the show on Sunday. The CD will include a tribute to John Lennon and another about child abuse

When I listen to TWAT, the lyrics sound like they're about a jilted ex-lover.

But who knows?
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« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2006, 01:54:48 PM »


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With 18 songs, the group's next album (they haven't released anything since 1993's "The Spaghetti Incident?") is a collection of songs, which in Axl's opinion are as good as "November Rain". Among them "Madagascar", included in the show on Sunday. The CD will include a tribute to John Lennon and another about child abuse

When I listen to TWAT, the lyrics sound like they're about a jilted ex-lover.

But who knows?


I agree that is what TWAT is not that song.
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« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2006, 01:57:42 PM »


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"With 18 songs, the group's next album (they haven't released anything since 1993's "The Spaghetti Incident?") is a collection of songs, which in Axl's opinion are as good as "November Rain". Among them "Madagascar", included in the show on Sunday. The CD will include a tribute to John Lennon and another about child abuse"


But I dont think that was it, because I still had it assiocated with TWAT, but hopefully the song will still appear on Cd but i would like? to hear it, I am sure its a powerful song.

I swear I heard that TWAT was about child abuse as well, but maybe it was some other song as TWAT is clearly not about child abuse. Regardless I'm sure I once heard a title in reference to the cild abuse song. I suppose I could be wrong though as it was a long time ago.
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« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2006, 04:32:44 PM »

Guys, do some research into the field of past-life regression therapy. Axl underwent this controversial method of therapy to "recover" lost memories of his childhood. Axl said in an interview with Rolling Stone that "I've done regression therapy all the way back, just about to the point of conception. I kind of know what was going on then." Not only was he able to retrieve memories of being conceived and of sexual molestation but also of a past life in which he and Stephanie Seymour were together in 15 part-lives.

There is no scientific basis for past-life regression therapy. When a person undergoes this form of treatment, they are under hypnosis and many times the psychotherapist feeds them information (this is how alien abductions are also "recovered"). When the session is done, the patient feels as if the experience is real but there is no proof that suggest that the memories recovered are actually real.
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« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2006, 04:53:38 PM »


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"With 18 songs, the group's next album (they haven't released anything since 1993's "The Spaghetti Incident?") is a collection of songs, which in Axl's opinion are as good as "November Rain". Among them "Madagascar", included in the show on Sunday. The CD will include a tribute to John Lennon and another about child abuse"


But I dont think that was it, because I still had it assiocated with TWAT, but hopefully the song will still appear on Cd but i would like? to hear it, I am sure its a powerful song.

It was probably just forum speculation. Remember the title There Was A Time was in existence long before it leaked. People assumed Catcher In The Rye was about John Lennon's death and they were right. People also assumed TWAT was about child abuse because it was a long time ago. They were wrong.
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« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2006, 04:56:14 PM »

I actually would think Leave Me Alone is the most likely candidate for the song about child abuse. The name was mentioned by Marco Beltrami as one of the songs he did arrangements for. The title would seem appropriate. It could also be directed at the media, or people who intrude on his reclusive lifestyle.
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« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2006, 05:45:24 PM »

Guys, do some research into the field of past-life regression therapy. Axl underwent this controversial method of therapy to "recover" lost memories of his childhood. Axl said in an interview with Rolling Stone that "I've done regression therapy all the way back, just about to the point of conception. I kind of know what was going on then." Not only was he able to retrieve memories of being conceived and of sexual molestation but also of a past life in which he and Stephanie Seymour were together in 15 part-lives.

There is no scientific basis for past-life regression therapy. When a person undergoes this form of treatment, they are under hypnosis and many times the psychotherapist feeds them information (this is how alien abductions are also "recovered"). When the session is done, the patient feels as if the experience is real but there is no proof that suggest that the memories recovered are actually real.

Hear hear.
later reserches report that a good part of those people ended up having new memories of their chilhood abuse after the therapies of the time. Hypnotic suggestions. 

Anyway the article doesn't say a song about his childhood abuse.
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« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2006, 05:46:10 PM »

I always assumed "Seven" would be hte song about childhood abuse.  Who knows...
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« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2006, 07:09:23 PM »

Something slightly tasteless about this thread.
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« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2006, 07:37:58 PM »

Im sorry but this thread looks like an axlroseven's...
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« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2006, 07:51:40 PM »

Doesnt make a lot of the sense to me. The narrator persona of the song is clearly talking about stuff that happens to an adult.

"Cocaine in the fall".

"Or the money,
Or the lawyers,
Or the stranger that she met"

or whatever it is. Just an example.

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