I.R.S Lyrics

[Jim]

Fair enough. I just assumed that they were your own transciption each time.

(....... Also, I'm kind of leaning towards "help" rather than "health" right now, though it's probably just my ears playing tricks on me, seeing as I'm absoloutely addicted to this slowed down IRS and must have listened to it about fifty times so far.)

[dave-gnfnr2k]

Fair enough. I just assumed that they were your own transciption each time.

(....... Also, I'm kind of leaning towards "help" rather than "health" right now, though it's probably just my ears playing tricks on me, seeing as I'm absoloutely addicted to this slowed down IRS and must have listened to it about fifty times so far.)

Btw I missed one word (letter) and it was a typo LOL. I did not even notice I missed that. Also you should see what I started off with for the lyrics. I have changed them dramatically. But for the record I was the one who figured out it was
Read a minute with your morning news, with a sweet (cheap) hangover and the head lines true

For all we know the lyrics will change on the final album. Axl has tweaked the lyrics to all the songs from the first live versions to the current songs. Even look at better, he clearly sings Challenge on the demo but live he sings Charms, which makes more sense.

[gabble]

he clearly sings Challenge on the demo but live he sings Charms, which makes more sense.

He clearly sings "charms" on the demo.? It took me, Finnished and mymichelle quite a while to get you even hear "charms" on the live versions.

In the conversation following the RIR5 performance . . .

Posted by gnfnr2k on 05.28.06:

"its challenge that brought me home
charms make no sense"

Posted by Finnished on 05.29.06:

"Stop saying that like you know it because it's not true. Watching the Rio show it's so clear it's charms/harm. It's like, how much more clear could this be? And the answer is none. None more clear.

And why in the heck wouldn't it make sense? "How long it would take me to break the charms that brought me harm?" I don't even speak English as a first language but still that's about a thousand times more sensible thing to say than "challenge that brought me home". You know, a charm, a spell, magic - and evil magic that doesn't do him good!

And yeah, there are two or three other words still wrong in those lyrics, too (abhor the invitation, for example). It's a very good take, but not the gospel from God."

So, let's sum up.?

Dave 2 months ago:

"its challenge that brought me home
charms make no sense"

Dave today:

he clearly sings Challenge on the demo but live he sings Charms, which makes more sense.

[dave-gnfnr2k]

"its challenge that brought me home
charms make no sense""

It did not make sense until someone explained he was talking about voo doo charms then it clicked?
But like I said on the demo he is saying challenge, while live he sings charms.

The fact is he is singing the words different on the demo then he does live. Just look at the last verse to CD. At RIO III he sang if you ass was your head you could tell, but now he sings While their arms reach up for your help

Plus exp with CD he is always changing the lyrics around.

He even did this? back in the day. Take wttj. Some times live he sings in the jungle where I play, but on the album version its WE, so does that mean on the album he is singing I and not WE?

Just because he sings it live one way does not mean he is not singing it different on the studio version. Just listen to the demo of better, he is saying challenge not charms but he changed it to charms live. Understand?

Listen
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=CC29E00E5F4C68A3

The demo he says challenge
its clear as day

So are you going to tell me you dont hear challenge on that clip from the demo?

Also its still not adbhor, i posted a clip a few weeks ago to disprove that.

here is the problem with people like you. Not matter what anyone shows you, you always think you are right, yet with me, if you show me and prove that your lyrics are more correct then ill agree and change them 

I can admit when I am mistaken unlike you.

[PhillyRiot]

What stanza are we talking about charm vs. challenge?

[Neemo]

Just listend to the soundboard of Rock am ring

the first time

Gonna make it a federal case
Gonna wave right there out in your face
Read it baby with your morning news
with a sweet hangover and the headline's true now

then the end one

Gonna make it a federal case
Gonna wave right there out in your face
Read it baby with your morning news
with your sweet hangover in the headlines too

I swear that this is it...or its extremely close

[sucker punch]

When was the irs demo recorded?

[dave-gnfnr2k]

Just listend to the soundboard of Rock am ring

the first time

Gonna make it a federal case
Gonna wave right there out in your face
Read it baby with your morning news
with a sweet hangover and the headline's true now

then the end one

Gonna make it a federal case
Gonna wave right there out in your face
Read it baby with your morning news
with your sweet hangover in the headlines too

I swear that this is it...or its extremely close

Its read a minute with your morning news on the demo
but live its baby

[dave-gnfnr2k]

What, like this

Wouldn't be the last should have known

There is a syllable between "last" and "should" as clear as day! What you've got going a) is akin to the grammar of a five year old, and b) doesn't scan! That line and the one above it should have the same syllables, surely.

It doesn't matter to me and I'm not having a go or anything, I guess you might be right, but come on mate. Pot kettle black.

its " I" or "time"
it was just a typo that? I missed a word

[Neemo]

When was the irs demo recorded?

as far as we know one was around '99ish and one around '01 or '03 either before or after the '02 tour

@Dave have ou heard that soundboard for Rock AM Ring yet? give IRS a listen from there it's pretty clear

[dave-gnfnr2k]

When was the irs demo recorded?

as far as we know one was around '99ish and one around '01 or '03 either before or after the '02 tour

@Dave have ou heard that soundboard for Rock AM Ring yet? give IRS a listen from there it's pretty clear

Yeah I just did.
And fixed it. Live its baby but the demo its read a minute.

so he may have changed the lyric.

[Neemo]

Yeah I just did.
And fixed it. Live its baby but the demo its read a minute.

so he may have changed the lyric.

cool i thought i was hearing things after your reply IMO it's a good thing though...shows that the songs have evolved a bit since recording of the leaks

[dave-gnfnr2k]

its hard figuring out lyrics from live songs because he always changes lines or words here and there. Cd is a perfect example. I reallly that CD 2006 on a SB

[ROSE22]

personally i think your both close but both wrong but...........who am i to judge. when i sing these new songs, i sing them a few different ways depending on how much beer i have in me but it's all pretty close so...........lets just chill. theres been every opinion on this thread. lets wait until it comes out and read the real lyrics for ourselves. some of us will say " see, i told ya i was right. " some of us will say, " oh yeah, that makes sence. "

i don't know exactly whare i'm going with this post so i will quit. i have had quite a few brews tonight. keep up bthe good work. goodnight   

[axlsalinger]

When was the irs demo recorded?

as far as we know one was around '99ish and one around '01 or '03 either before or after the '02 tour

@Dave have ou heard that soundboard for Rock AM Ring yet? give IRS a listen from there it's pretty clear

Yeah I just did.
And fixed it. Live its baby but the demo its read a minute.

so he may have changed the lyric.

I really don't think it's "read a minute". That doesn't make any sense. I thought he might be saying "read a paper" or "read it daily" but it's really hard to tell.

In another thread Christos mentioned that he saw the lyrics for this song on the teleprompter at the acoustic show, and a few lines we think we've got right are wrong. But also that he can't remember the right ones. It's all Greek to me!   

[dave-gnfnr2k]

When was the irs demo recorded?

as far as we know one was around '99ish and one around '01 or '03 either before or after the '02 tour

@Dave have ou heard that soundboard for Rock AM Ring yet? give IRS a listen from there it's pretty clear

Yeah I just did.
And fixed it. Live its baby but the demo its read a minute.

so he may have changed the lyric.

I really don't think it's "read a minute". That doesn't make any sense. I thought he might be saying "read a paper" or "read it daily" but it's really hard to tell.

In another thread Christos mentioned that he saw the lyrics for this song on the teleprompter at the acoustic show, and a few lines we think we've got right are wrong. But also that he can't remember the right ones. It's all Greek to me!? ?

Yeah we still have a few lines wrong.  I agree with that

[Sickthings3]

You made your mind up ad hoc anyway

ad hoc, really?

I hear ad hoc too

I'm bad at these kinda things, but from the RAR version, I hear "Made your mind up and to be gone/were gone anyway

[HoldenCaulfield]

I believe it's "Made your mind up and gone anyway" 

[HoldenCaulfield]

What, like this

Wouldn't be the last should have known

There is a syllable between "last" and "should" as clear as day! What you've got going a) is akin to the grammar of a five year old, and b) doesn't scan! That line and the one above it should have the same syllables, surely.

It doesn't matter to me and I'm not having a go or anything, I guess you might be right, but come on mate. Pot kettle black.

I'm pretty sure that part reads:

Wouldn't be the last I'm I've gone
through all the rumors I can tell...

[fixintodie]

Wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong
Wouldn't be the last
I should have known
With all the rumours, I can tell
Some things didn't work so well