Robin and Izzy

[Lucky]

I must admit that I dont know many bass players at all, but I guess few people would say that Fortus is one of the greatest/most famous bass players in the world.

Was this intentional??

damn it. 
go ahead. crucify me.  I deserve it. 
but I think it's obvious I ment Stinson.

[the dirt]

I must admit that I dont know many bass players at all, but I guess few people would say that Fortus is one of the greatest/most famous bass players in the world.

Was this intentional??

damn it.?
go ahead. crucify me.? I deserve it.?
but I think it's obvious I ment Stinson.

I figured, but your mistake went along with the point you were trying to make?

[Lucky]

I must admit that I dont know many bass players at all, but I guess few people would say that Fortus is one of the greatest/most famous bass players in the world.

Was this intentional??

damn it.?
go ahead. crucify me.? I deserve it.?
but I think it's obvious I ment Stinson.

I figured, but your mistake went along with the point you were trying to make?

it's one of those situations when you think one thing, and your mouth says something else....

[requiem156]

I must admit that I dont know many bass players at all, but I guess few people would say that Fortus is one of the greatest/most famous bass players in the world.

Was this intentional??

damn it.?
go ahead. crucify me.? I deserve it.?
but I think it's obvious I ment Stinson.

I figured, but your mistake went along with the point you were trying to make?

it's one of those situations when you think one thing, and your mouth says something else....

Even ignoring your mistake, and the fact that you admit yourself that you don't know any bass players , the point is pretty much worthless. No one would want Les Claypool, Billy Sheehan, Jaco Pastorius, Jeff Berlin, Stu Hamm, Michael Manring, Flea, Charlie Haden, Jack Bruce etc. in GNR - it's not a band for virtuoso bass playing. He looks the part and stays on the beat. Plus, he has a high voice that is ideal for back-up vox w/Axl. He is known by many people - the Replacements are an iconic band, believe it or not. It astounds me that some of you think of these people as "no-names" just because you've never heard of them. Does that apply to political and historical figures as well? How about famous artists from the rennaissance? Are any of you familiar with Arnold Schoenberg, or Steve Reich? If not, maybe 20th century classical music should just hang it up because it's not as famous as Slash. If only they wore top-hats! More people probably know Britney Spears than Slash - I guess that makes him a no-name to some people too. Wow-this gets confusing.

[madagas]

best post of the thread...

[Lucky]

I must admit that I dont know many bass players at all, but I guess few people would say that Fortus is one of the greatest/most famous bass players in the world.

Was this intentional??

damn it.?
go ahead. crucify me.? I deserve it.?
but I think it's obvious I ment Stinson.

I figured, but your mistake went along with the point you were trying to make?

it's one of those situations when you think one thing, and your mouth says something else....

Even ignoring your mistake, and the fact that you admit yourself that you don't know any bass players , the point is pretty much worthless. No one would want Les Claypool, Billy Sheehan, Jaco Pastorius, Jeff Berlin, Stu Hamm, Michael Manring, Flea, Charlie Haden, Jack Bruce etc. in GNR - it's not a band for virtuoso bass playing. He looks the part and stays on the beat. Plus, he has a high voice that is ideal for back-up vox w/Axl. He is known by many people - the Replacements are an iconic band, believe it or not. It astounds me that some of you think of these people as "no-names" just because you've never heard of them. Does that apply to political and historical figures as well? How about famous artists from the rennaissance? Are any of you familiar with Arnold Schoenberg, or Steve Reich? If not, maybe 20th century classical music should just hang it up because it's not as famous as Slash. If only they wore top-hats! More people probably know Britney Spears than Slash - I guess that makes him a no-name to some people too. Wow-this gets confusing.

dude I never said they suck!
I like them all, but they are not famous!!!
They are great musicians but ---> NO-NAME = not famous!!!

they are no-name talented musicians!!!! THATS HOW THIS FUCKIN DISCUSSION STARTED
as soon as I said that, all hell broke loose.
(and what's so wrong about being no-name and talented)


I'm not saying that they are unknown because I dont know of them. I'm saying that they are unknown because most of the poeple here(and everywhere else) dont know about them.
and even the guys I knew before they joined GNR I think that they are fairly no-names. such as buckethead and finck.


(But you would have known all that if you only bothered to read my post)






this discussion is way off topic!!!
I dont remember the last time anyone here mentioned izzy..., and this is a finck/stradlin thread.

[Kujo]

Are any of you familiar with Arnold Schoenberg, or Steve Reich?

A pair of hacks. Jack Johnson and Tom O'Leary would kick their ass

[ppbebe]

I'm usually hell lazy in learning musician names like I had NIN albums and yet I didn't memorise Trent's name.  but I happened to know Robin's name beforehand as he was quite popular among girls.

Whether they were unknown or well known, it's all the same to me. Or rather previously unknown talents might be more interesting.
I'm more into the present and the future and what we're building than the legacies built in the past.
They together make the music I love in this band. That's all matters.

drums.

And here I was picking on the wrong guy all this time 

cheer up mate.

[jarmo]

Im sure what alerted you to these guys' work were the revelations 'Nine Inch Nails Guitarist Robin Finck joins Guns N Roses' or 'Primus drummer Brain joins Guns N Roses' that were announced at the time.

Well seeing Robin on pay-per-view in 1994 kinda makes you realize who he is. It was Nine Inch Nails @ Woodstock 94 and he was playing in that band. A few years later he joined GN'R.

Brain played in Primus, a band I never was a huge fan of, but I remembered the name when he was mentioned as the new drummer.




/jarmo

[Gaymo, the Hobbit]

Its the same thing with Brain.? He never played YCBM right and nobody on this board would admit it, until Frank stepped in, did it right, then everyone was happy with Frank and forgot about Brain.

Nobody on this board would admit it...? ? I basically started the Brain butchering YCBM movement.

im really sick of this shit about brain not being able to play YCBM right, this guy is way better than anyone ever in the band, he just plays the fucking song different

Amen.
Just because that fuckhead Matt played it differently, doesn't mean Brain does it wrong. Axl wouldn't hire someone who couldn't play the ycbm solo..

[slashedtires]

I really don't know how anyone can say that anyone who was in the Replacements is a "no-namer". To most critics and especially fans of indie rock, the replacements were one the most important acts to come out of the 1980's.

I think, yeah, the replacements might be "no-namers" if you are a GNR fan who listens to other bands more like Metallica or Bon Jovi or Nickleback but if you have a musical taste that runs the gament a bit, you know the replacements.

I think that can be said for all the members of this band. Sure, no one is as well-known as Slash or Scott Weiland, but all the members (ok, maybe not Pittman) have been in critically and commerically successful bands before and are well known in the music community.

[bolton]

make a poll, and you'd see that no more than 10 members around here knew who these guys were before they joined the band.

We don't have to. Just because you're not familiar with their previous bands doesn't mean the rest of the world isn't.

I bet more than ten people knew of The Replaments alone.



/jarmo

make a poll, and you'd see that no more than 10 members around here knew who was Saul Hadson before he joined the band

[the dirt]

Its the same thing with Brain.? He never played YCBM right and nobody on this board would admit it, until Frank stepped in, did it right, then everyone was happy with Frank and forgot about Brain.

Nobody on this board would admit it...? ? I basically started the Brain butchering YCBM movement.

im really sick of this shit about brain not being able to play YCBM right, this guy is way better than anyone ever in the band, he just plays the fucking song different

Amen.
Just because that fuckhead Matt played it differently, doesn't mean Brain does it wrong. Axl wouldn't hire someone who couldn't play the ycbm solo..

Brain doesn't do it in a good way. And what does the solo in YCBM have anything to do with the way Brain drums the song?

I don't get it sometimes. They play all those old songs because that's all concert goers want to hear, yet a song like this is different because Brain drums it the way he wants...

[no more patience]

Robin is not even in the same league or sport as IZZy...

get your head out of your asses!

ROBIN =GNR AHHAHAHAHAHHAAH

IZZY=Founding member, childhood buddy of Axl and co writer and writer of large quantity of GNR HITS

you guys dont know shit

[Lucky]

make a poll, and you'd see that no more than 10 members around here knew who these guys were before they joined the band.

We don't have to. Just because you're not familiar with their previous bands doesn't mean the rest of the world isn't.

I bet more than ten people knew of The Replaments alone.



/jarmo

make a poll, and you'd see that no more than 10 members around here knew who was Saul Hadson before he joined the band

you just proved my theory dick!
he was a no-name talented musician!
Like I've been saying for the past 5 hours.

[Kujo]

you just proved my theory dick!

You have him confused with someone else. His name is Michael no Richard

he was a no-name talented musician!
Like I've been saying for the past 5 hours.

Slash had no history with an established band before joining GnR though. So it doesn't really prove your point as far as Tommy, Brain, and Robin are concerned

[ppbebe]

you just proved my theory dick!
he was a no-name talented musician!
Like I've been saying for the past 5 hours.

And robin is fairly famous musician with an unknown talent for writing.
Axl must have a great gift for discovering musicians or bringing out their latent abilities.

Is this what you've been trying to say for 5 hours?

[snakepipero]

Jajaja What a great joke      Robin is Guns, Izzy unfortunately or fortunately is not Guns, What a great joke, you're really good as jokers  , jajaja

[snakepipero]

jajaja I can't stop laughing, You should go to an Austin Powers's casting 

[jarmo]

jajaja I can't stop laughing, You should go to an Austin Powers's casting?

Guess what band Izzy has been playing with lately.

Hint: It's not a band featuring Slash.

Isn't that funny?



/jarmo