Robin and Izzy

[JustWckd]

Ok, listen to '99 version of TWAT, without Bucket.

All you want is a proof for the obvious answer. Why don't you prove that he didn't wrote it?

I CAN'T THAT IS THE GOD DAMN POINT. JUST LIKE YOU CAN'T PROVE THAT HE DID!

For all you know Chris Pittman is writing the guitar tracks, someone on Wikipedia sure thinks so.  Or how about Paul Tobias, he was in the band right around then.

You guys seriously can't be this stupid...

[WARose]

How can Robin be more GNR than Slash when we can actually hear Slash's contributions on 4 full length CDs and an EP???

Until we see the linear notes on CD we have no idea what Robin has done.  "Better" could be his ONLY contribution for all you know. 

Some of you are so fucking ridiculous in the way you worship the new members and bash the old ones.  If it weren't for Slash, Robin couldn't butcher his songs on stage. Robin is the least talented guitarist in the new band and he gets sack ridden more than anybody.   Its crazy...

he wrote the part of the blues, he has his guitar through most of chinese democracy, he's the one playing on most of twat.

Show me something that proves he wrote part of the Blues.  I remember back in 2002 that Zakk Wylde said the Blues was from 1996 when he was in the band...  Chinese Democracy is the most NIN type song we have heard (besides OMG) and that is what Robin can play.

And if you think Robin is doing the outro of TWAT or the 2nd solo.....most of you guys don't play guitar so you probably can't distinguish between players....

watch the 05/12 2006 dvd and you`ll see which parts of the song he plays and which not...

and i don`t play guitar, but i consider myself quite good in hearing what he plays/wrote and what not

and everyone thought bucket wrote better before axl told the truth

even i thought it`s "the rocker bucket wrote" (quote from brain)... well we were all wrong

I have all the DVDs from NY, and countless vids from this new tour.  Finck is and always will be a sloppy sloppy live guitarist.  Most of the people on this board say that he means to play like that but if anybody plays guitar or knows anyone that plays guitar then you would know he has a horrendus form while playing.

Again, he could be an amzing writer and be that sloppy, but unlike you guys, I'm gonna wait to read the linear notes before  I start proclaiming he can write better than Slash or even Buckethead for that matter.

Its the same thing with Brain.  He never played YCBM right and nobody on this board would admit it, until Frank stepped in, did it right, then everyone was happy with Frank and forgot about Brain.

It doesn't matter who is in this band or if they suck or not, they'll get their sack ridden on this board.  Objective new GNR fans are nearly non existant...

and denying that he wrote the solos of the blues, better, irs and chinese democracy he`s playing live is just stupid by the way...

I'm not denying anything.  I doubt he wrote of few of those solos.  The point I'm trying to make is YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT AND NEITHER DO I.  You want to act like you know what sgoing on in Guns N' Roses but you don't.  For all we know Robin could've written 90% of the songs by himself or Axl wrote the guitar parts.  Until the CD comes out and we have cd linear book or Axl does an interview and is asked who wrote what, WE DON'T KNOW.  Stop ASSUMING you DO, thats all I'm asking, apparently thats too much....This is what we do know

Robin didn't write ANYTHING in Nine Inch Nails
Axl said Better was a "Robin song" which doesn't even say that he wrote it, just implies it.  It could mean that its Robin's favorite fucking song or that he wrote the chorus.  Again, until the CD comes out or Axl or any of the band members do interviews, we don't know.  Based on Buckethead's previous writing skills he has actually displayed though, you can make the GUESS that he wrote guitar parts. Don't you wish you had songs you know for 100% that Robin wrote to compare??

axl said "this is a song put together by robin finck" in nijmegen

and i`m not acting like i know what?s going on in gnr. but as several members mentioned allready, it?s a fact robin wrote the solo and the guitar lines in the blues. of course i`m "just guessing" about the other songs as i didn`t see the liner notes..... but it`s quite safe to say who wrote which solo. i don`t know who wrote which song though (except for maddy, silkworms, oh my god and better...)
 

and of course i`d like to have the CD booklet in my hands right now to know for sure, but we all know about that story

oh... and we indeed know some things for sure

Really? Robin tell you? or Axl? Buckethead tell you that at 4:22 he started writign b/c Robin passed out or something???

you can watch the may 12th dvd and see for yourself.

I WATCHED him PLAY it. He did GREAT on the NEW songs. BUT HOW THE FUCK DO YOU GET THAT HE WROTE IT FROM WATCHING HIM PLAY IT?!?!?!


MY GOD, this is just flying over all your heads cuz you don't want to admit that you don't know what Robin did or did not write...

axl might agree with you on that....  but since robin has a pretty unique style it`s easy to recognize his solos

[Lipfel]

Ok, listen to '99 version of TWAT, without Bucket.

All you want is a proof for the obvious answer. Why don't you prove that he didn't wrote it?

Excellent point Voodoo!!! ? You beat him! ?

[WARose]

Ok, listen to '99 version of TWAT, without Bucket.

All you want is a proof for the obvious answer. Why don't you prove that he didn't wrote it?

I CAN'T THAT IS THE GOD DAMN POINT. JUST LIKE YOU CAN'T PROVE THAT HE DID!

For all you know Chris Pittman is writing the guitar tracks, someone on Wikipedia sure thinks so.  Or how about Paul Tobias, he was in the band right around then.

You guys seriously can't be this stupid...

dude..... for all we know gnr could be a casting band and neither slash nor axl wrote one note or word from the old songs

[Lucky]

Ok, listen to '99 version of TWAT, without Bucket.

All you want is a proof for the obvious answer. Why don't you prove that he didn't wrote it?

I CAN'T THAT IS THE GOD DAMN POINT. JUST LIKE YOU CAN'T PROVE THAT HE DID!

For all you know Chris Pittman is writing the guitar tracks, someone on Wikipedia sure thinks so.? Or how about Paul Tobias, he was in the band right around then.

You guys seriously can't be this stupid...

you'd be suprised how stupid GNR fans can be...

[JustWckd]

its pointless to have a discussion with a bunch of fanboys....

[JustWckd]

Ok, listen to '99 version of TWAT, without Bucket.

All you want is a proof for the obvious answer. Why don't you prove that he didn't wrote it?

I CAN'T THAT IS THE GOD DAMN POINT. JUST LIKE YOU CAN'T PROVE THAT HE DID!

For all you know Chris Pittman is writing the guitar tracks, someone on Wikipedia sure thinks so.  Or how about Paul Tobias, he was in the band right around then.

You guys seriously can't be this stupid...

dude..... for all we know gnr could be a casting band and neither slash nor axl wrote one note or word from the old songs

 Copyrights and CD booklets would prove you wrong...

[WARose]

its pointless to have a discussion with a bunch of fanboys....

it`s pointless to have a discussion with someone who hardly trusts his own eyes

[WARose]

Ok, listen to '99 version of TWAT, without Bucket.

All you want is a proof for the obvious answer. Why don't you prove that he didn't wrote it?

I CAN'T THAT IS THE GOD DAMN POINT. JUST LIKE YOU CAN'T PROVE THAT HE DID!

For all you know Chris Pittman is writing the guitar tracks, someone on Wikipedia sure thinks so.  Or how about Paul Tobias, he was in the band right around then.

You guys seriously can't be this stupid...

dude..... for all we know gnr could be a casting band and neither slash nor axl wrote one note or word from the old songs

 Copyrights and CD booklets would prove you wrong...

no  it could all be faked... or were you there when saxl wrote november rain?

[wells]

@Lucky & JustWckd

Thanks for the insults  ! You proved I am wrong  .

Yours sincerly,

Stupid Fanboy (TM)

[Lucky]

who the hell did I insult?

[Voodoochild]

I CAN'T THAT IS THE GOD DAMN POINT. JUST LIKE YOU CAN'T PROVE THAT HE DID!

For all you know Chris Pittman is writing the guitar tracks, someone on Wikipedia sure thinks so.  Or how about Paul Tobias, he was in the band right around then.

You guys seriously can't be this stupid...

I'm sure you can.

The point is: he's the one who plays those leads... The obvious answer is that HE wrote it, otherwise anyone else would play it. Richard plays Paul Tobias and Buckethead stuff, so yes, it's hard to tell what he wrote or not.

But with Robin is way different. Also, we all know how the new songs were written by the whole band. We all know how Axl asked Brian May to play some leads back in 2000 because he was so attached emotionally with Robin's stuff. Those are facts, and you can't deny this.

Yeah, I can't prove right now anything about Robin but Better's credits. But the answer is OBVIOUS, altought you want to ignore those points.

[wells]

who the hell did I insult?

I really don't know 

you'd be suprised how stupid GNR fans can be...

[Lucky]

who the hell did I insult?

I really don't know?

you'd be suprised how stupid GNR fans can be...

well that's a medical condition, not an insult.
just take a look at the Andy Wallace thread.
how would you describe all the people that actually believed that crap?

[wells]

well that's a medical condition, not an insult.
just take a look at the Andy Wallace thread.
how would you describe all the people that actually believed that crap?

well definetly not stupid. people sometimes need to belive in something... that keep them alive  .

[JustWckd]

I CAN'T THAT IS THE GOD DAMN POINT. JUST LIKE YOU CAN'T PROVE THAT HE DID!

For all you know Chris Pittman is writing the guitar tracks, someone on Wikipedia sure thinks so.  Or how about Paul Tobias, he was in the band right around then.

You guys seriously can't be this stupid...

I'm sure you can.

The point is: he's the one who plays those leads... The obvious answer is that HE wrote it, otherwise anyone else would play it. Richard plays Paul Tobias and Buckethead stuff, so yes, it's hard to tell what he wrote or not.

But with Robin is way different. Also, we all know how the new songs were written by the whole band. We all know how Axl asked Brian May to play some leads back in 2000 because he was so attached emotionally with Robin's stuff. Those are facts, and you can't deny this.

Yeah, I can't prove right now anything about Robin but Better's credits. But the answer is OBVIOUS, altought you want to ignore those points.

Yes, all signs point to him writing, but since he has never written in the past, until there is 100% I'm not going to praise him or say he is "more GNR than Slash was".  Its laughable how you can praise someone over 6 songs compared to 4 full cds of work (3 being original) and an EP.

there wouldn't be so many new vs old arguements if the "new" fans didn't try to piss on the legacy of the old band.  if you view these as two seperate bands and pretend they aren't named GNR, they are both amazing....


I'm done for now...

[Lucky]

well that's a medical condition, not an insult.
just take a look at the Andy Wallace thread.
how would you describe all the people that actually believed that crap?

well definetly not stupid. people sometimes need to belive in something... that keep them alive? .

that explains why so many people voted for HDZ...


and if they decided to believe that crap, why the fuck do they keep bugging me for not believing ?!

[Locomotive98]

Lol this thread is funny. Izzy hasnt even been mentioned for about a page.

Whats with this 'Robin IS GNR because he wrote Better and a solo for the Blues therefore hes the greatest thing ever to grace the Earth' nonsense. Based on that theory I come to the conclusion that 'Teddy Andreadis IS GNR'.

Better is a average Nu-metal song (yes I know thats an oxymoron) and a guitar solo. Hes not exactly Mozart or Hendrix or someone like that is he?

For the record I also didnt know any of the band before they joined Guns. Apart from Josh Freese and he left years ago - but even he managed to write the riff for Chinese Democracy. Therefore 'Josh Freese IS GNR'. Is that correct?

[JustWckd]

Lol this thread is funny. Izzy hasnt even been mentioned for about a page.

Whats with this 'Robin IS GNR because he wrote Better and a solo for the Blues therefore hes the greatest thing ever to grace the Earth' nonsense. Based on that theory I come to the conclusion that 'Teddy Andreadis IS GNR'.

Better is a average Nu-metal song (yes I know thats an oxymoron) and a guitar solo. Hes not exactly Mozart or Hendrix or someone like that is he?

For the record I also didnt know any of the band before they joined Guns. Apart from Josh Freese and he left years ago - but even he managed to write the riff for Chinese Democracy. Therefore 'Josh Freese IS GNR'. Is that correct?

By the standards that the fans in this thread has set, yes Freese is GNR.

Better, TWAT, CD, Maddy, Blues...., they are all good songs....they don't compare to anything GNR though, but that is neither here nor there...

[JustWckd]

BTW, Teddy was a badass.  He is more GNR then Chris Pittman will ever be...