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« on: August 15, 2006, 06:16:33 PM »

I dont know about anyone else but this is starting to bug me even more than before.

If the band is on hiatus and not doing anything, I can understand doing some side projects to stay busy etc.

Now GNR have just came off an amazing,successful European tour, CD seems closer than ever BUT here come the side projects.

I want to accept this band as GNR but its kind of hard to when Tommy plays with Soul Asylum, Dizzy is off doing something. To me, now it seems GNR are firing on all cylinders, they need to be in GNR only.

It has always diminished bands and made them seem not as tight or real when they play with various other artists. How many times have we heard Axl ride Slash's ass for playing with Lenny Kravitz,Micheal Jackson... So why is ok for the new members to do it?

Its time for the new members to 100 percent commit to GNR.

Just my opinion.
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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2006, 06:18:25 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2006, 06:19:52 PM »

Makes no difference to me. Neither GnR or their own side projects seem to be interfering with each other so I see no problem.
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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2006, 06:20:09 PM »

See, the thing is that I always thought that Axl didn't care for who Slash was playing with, not that he was playing with people when he wasn't busy with GN'R. ?I think that there just isn't anything for them to do at this point with the album, which may be a good thing.

Personally, I see it as a benefit that they are keeping their chops honed by playing around. ?Keeping busy between tour legs makes the transition into the next leg of the tour a little smoother, I think.

Bottom line, it doesn't bug me because I think that they're just doing it to keep busy. ?I can't blame them for that.

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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2006, 06:26:50 PM »

Musicians love playing music.
As long as you know you can count on him to come through when needed, why worry about it?
Obviously these guys are dedicated to the project.
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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2006, 06:28:43 PM »

well if dizzy is doing his own thing, ron is doing his own thing, richard is just hanging around, tommy is with SA ... this has to mean that CD is done, that the music is done, and all thats left is to put it together and put it out
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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2006, 06:31:50 PM »

well if dizzy is doing his own thing, ron is doing his own thing, richard is just hanging around, tommy is with SA ... this has to mean that CD is done, that the music is done, and all thats left is to put it together and put it out

It's been like that for pretty much years (with the exception to the odd of tweaking)
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« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2006, 06:31:54 PM »

if theres nothing to do, and nothings going on.....what do you care they do? they just wanna stay busy and have fun..........you know that once its time to be gnr, they're gonna be gnr
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« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2006, 06:34:37 PM »

Musicians love playing music.
As long as you know you can count on him to come through when needed, why worry about it?
Obviously these guys are dedicated to the project.

i agree with D, and your post sums it up well.

they are just "musicians" working on a "project".

it doesn't feel like a true band. not that i care - for me, this is axl's show.
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« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2006, 06:39:50 PM »

If the album is ready to come out and they don't have to do anything, then I'm fine with it. If not, I agree with "D".
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« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2006, 06:47:14 PM »

did axl say in an interview years ago, that gnr is going to be a project more then a band, or didnt he say something that sounded that way
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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2006, 06:47:51 PM »

did axl say in an interview years ago, that gnr is going to be a project more then a band, or didnt he say something that sounded that way
I don't remember that. If so, it would be sad. really sad. It means Axl doesn't really want this band to be a real band, but just " a project", his own solo project, with a bunch of musicians he brings in the band like socks.
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« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2006, 06:52:01 PM »

So you've been against Tommy and Pirner being friends since the early 80's?
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« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2006, 06:56:04 PM »

Yeah, these guys shouldn't be allowed to go out and have fun with their friends.

How dare they? Don't they know it's not allowed? Don't they realize people on the GN'R boards will get upset?  rant

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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2006, 07:07:21 PM »

Jarmo, what these idiots don't realize is that playing with other bands/different bands only makes you a BETTER musician and a more diversified artist. It can only benefit Gnr and/or Axl. It really cracks me up how little some people on these boards know about music, art, and rock history. All great artists wanted to play with as many people as possible. Dylan, Miles Davis, Hendrix, etc... Cool
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« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2006, 07:18:24 PM »

Fuck no.

Activity breeds chops, no matter if it's with GNR or projects outside of the band.
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« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2006, 07:20:17 PM »


Its time for the new members to 100 percent commit to GNR.

Just my opinion.

Personally, I have no reason to question their commitment.  These guys have been relatively inactive - at least *outside* of a studio - for years, and all have far more patience than I might under similar circumstances.  The last thing I could say about any of them is that they're not committed.  From where I stand, it very well might be the ability to keep busy and put their talents to use outside of GnR that keeps them in the band, rather than be insanely frustrated waiting for the CD to be finished, touring to kick back up, etc.

Now, if these side projects start to take precedence over GnR, then it's another story altogether.  In the meantime, they're as commited a group of musicians as I've ever seen...

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« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2006, 07:36:41 PM »

Jarmo, what these idiots don't realize is that playing with other bands/different bands only makes you a BETTER musician and a more diversified artist. It can only benefit Gnr and/or Axl. It really cracks me up how little some people on these boards know about music, art, and rock history. All great artists wanted to play with as many people as possible. Dylan, Miles Davis, Hendrix, etc... Cool

so anyone that has a different opinion that yours is an idiot?Huh and it's hilarious that the three examples you give are all SOLO artists.

but kudos to axl for letting these guys do it. from a marketing perspective, i think it's a HUGE mistake.
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« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2006, 07:39:06 PM »

I agree, it's definitely a mistake. They will not be taken seriously as "a band". It's easy good shit for the press to call them "Axl and his hired guns" "Axl and his prostitutes musicians" "Axl and...who?". It just breaks the concept of beeing a band. It is time to be a band. Not an addition of studio session musicians.
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« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2006, 07:53:13 PM »

I agree, it's definitely a mistake. They will not be taken seriously as "a band". It's easy good shit for the press to call them "Axl and his hired guns" "Axl and his prostitutes musicians" "Axl and...who?". It just breaks the concept of beeing a band. It is time to be a band. Not an addition of studio session musicians.

Slash does this all the time. He played on a cover of "In The Summer Time" recently. Duff played with Alice In Chains and don't forget, Matt and Weiland are in another band together called Camp Freddy!

Does this make Velvet Revolver less of a band? Do you call them a "project"?



I don't get the point. As long as they do it because they love playing with their friends, I don't see the problem.




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