The U.S. Tour (General Discussion)

[Neemo]

Hey, I thought it might be a good idea to start up a general discussion topic regarding the U.S. tour since the UK one is ending soon...? When do you think the U.S. tour will start?? I can't wait!?

I am just wondering how easy/difficult it will be for GNR to play in some venues/cities based on what happened in 2002 and the fact that a lot of these venues belong/are related? to Clear Channel (correct me if I'm wrong).? If Clear Channel doesn't want to put up with Axl, his choice of venues will be limited. However, if Clear Channel is part of the tour, they'll probably have a contract with a huge fee in case Axl doesn't show up which would be good for us going to the shows as it would likely prevent Axl from not showing up.

i think that is part of the reason that we have a Euro tour first....and notice no last minute cancellations or major incidents

[AxlsMainMan]

Hey, I thought it might be a good idea to start up a general discussion topic regarding the U.S. tour since the UK one is ending soon...? When do you think the U.S. tour will start?? I can't wait!?

I am just wondering how easy/difficult it will be for GNR to play in some venues/cities based on what happened in 2002 and the fact that a lot of these venues belong/are related? to Clear Channel (correct me if I'm wrong).? If Clear Channel doesn't want to put up with Axl, his choice of venues will be limited. However, if Clear Channel is part of the tour, they'll probably have a contract with a huge fee in case Axl doesn't show up which would be good for us going to the shows as it would likely prevent Axl from not showing up.

i think that is part of the reason that we have a Euro tour first....and notice no last minute cancellations or major incidents

The reason for the Euro Tour is that asides from a few stints in '01 and '02, Axl hasn't lived life on the road as a touring musician in quite a long time.

If he has legitimate plans of dropping CD in the Fall, he wants to be sure he can handle life on the road at age 44, while his voice only grows stronger day by day, and likewise for the band as well..

[Neemo]

Hey, I thought it might be a good idea to start up a general discussion topic regarding the U.S. tour since the UK one is ending soon...? When do you think the U.S. tour will start?? I can't wait!?

I am just wondering how easy/difficult it will be for GNR to play in some venues/cities based on what happened in 2002 and the fact that a lot of these venues belong/are related? to Clear Channel (correct me if I'm wrong).? If Clear Channel doesn't want to put up with Axl, his choice of venues will be limited. However, if Clear Channel is part of the tour, they'll probably have a contract with a huge fee in case Axl doesn't show up which would be good for us going to the shows as it would likely prevent Axl from not showing up.

i think that is part of the reason that we have a Euro tour first....and notice no last minute cancellations or major incidents

The reason for the Euro Tour is that asides from a few stints in '01 and '02, Axl hasn't lived life on the road as a touring musician in quite a long time.

If he has legitimate plans of dropping CD in the Fall, he wants to be sure he can handle life on the road at age 44, while his voice only grows stronger day by day, and likewise for the band as well..

yeah that too....they get stronger and stronger the more they play together...from all rumors it doesn't seem like axl was practicing with the band just like old times....especially since he was in NY and they were in LA

but you can bet your ass that the promoters in the USA and Canada are closely watching this current leg of the tour

[wells]

Hey, I thought it might be a good idea to start up a general discussion topic regarding the U.S. tour since the UK one is ending soon...? When do you think the U.S. tour will start?? I can't wait!?

I am just wondering how easy/difficult it will be for GNR to play in some venues/cities based on what happened in 2002 and the fact that a lot of these venues belong/are related? to Clear Channel (correct me if I'm wrong).? If Clear Channel doesn't want to put up with Axl, his choice of venues will be limited. However, if Clear Channel is part of the tour, they'll probably have a contract with a huge fee in case Axl doesn't show up which would be good for us going to the shows as it would likely prevent Axl from not showing up.

Isn't LiveNation (UK tour promoter) a Clear Channel company?

and YES NIN & GNR tour would kick ass...

[madagas]

yes Velimir...Live Nation would likely do the US TOUR as well. It is the touring division of Clear Channel. They own alot of venues and are the promoters. I am sure Axl has ironed out differences with them. They promoted the Hammerstein gigs.

[masterdan]

Hey, is the KROC show gonna be on the radio?  Or is it just a festival kinda thing....

[WeHeldTogether]

WeHeldTogether, The Arrowhead Pond of Anaheim.?

Oh, duh!  I've even been to a concert there(not GNR obviously).  I totally forgot. 

But it would be really awesome if they played House of Blues (Anaheim or Hollywood).

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

If Axl decides he wants to tour the U.S., there will be a warm-ups in the area, that's for sure.

[slash666]

If Axl decides he wants to tour the U.S., there will be a warm-ups in the area, that's for sure.

maybe at the Hammerstein again

[bigcash2002]

You may be correct, but why does there need to be warm up gigs if they are touring the USA in the fall?  I would think the Hammerstein gigs (4), plus the entire European tour would be warm-up enough for just about anything 

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

Warm up for the new songs

[mdttkk]

I wish they would come to Edmonton and/or Calgary.

Me too, me too.  I would try my hardest to go see them even if they came to vancouver even if it meant hitchhiking.  Another thing im worried about for the US tour is the opening acts.  I remember a few years ago GNR tried to get Sum 41 to play but they refused.  (thank god for that)  but the point is they were going to bring along a crappy band just to sell more seats which imo would ruin the tour. 

[KeVoRkIaN]

As long as they come to Toronto and Hamilton Ontario Canada I shall die a happy man.

Well place your bets on Toronto - But I'd prefer Hamilton since I live there.

[gmGnR]

yes Velimir...Live Nation would likely do the US TOUR as well. It is the touring division of Clear Channel. They own alot of venues and are the promoters. I am sure Axl has ironed out differences with them. They promoted the Hammerstein gigs.

Turns out Clear Channel doesn't do live events anymore. Live nation is a separate publicly traded company. The paragraph below comes from their filing with the SEC. I would assume though that they are still a bunch of people from 2002 still with the division. But if they organized the Hammerstein shows, that's a good sign, and sure, they must be keeping tabs of the Euro tour. No doubt about that.

"We were formed through acquisitions of various entertainment businesses and assets by our predecessors. On August 1, 2000, Clear Channel Communications, Inc. (?Clear Channel? or ?Clear Channel Communications?) acquired our live entertainment business, which was initially formed in 1997. On August 2, 2005, we were incorporated in our current form as a Delaware corporation to own substantially all of the entertainment business of Clear Channel Communications. On December 21, 2005, the separation of the business previously conducted by Clear Channel?s live entertainment segment and sports representation business, now comprising our business, and the distribution by Clear Channel of all of our common stock to its shareholders, was completed in a tax free spin- off (the ?Distribution,? the ?Separation? or the ?spin-off?). Following our separation from Clear Channel, we became a separate publicly traded company on the New York Stock Exchange (NYSE: LYV) on December 21, 2005. "

[gmGnR]

Hey, I thought it might be a good idea to start up a general discussion topic regarding the U.S. tour since the UK one is ending soon...? When do you think the U.S. tour will start?? I can't wait!?

I am just wondering how easy/difficult it will be for GNR to play in some venues/cities based on what happened in 2002 and the fact that a lot of these venues belong/are related? to Clear Channel (correct me if I'm wrong).? If Clear Channel doesn't want to put up with Axl, his choice of venues will be limited. However, if Clear Channel is part of the tour, they'll probably have a contract with a huge fee in case Axl doesn't show up which would be good for us going to the shows as it would likely prevent Axl from not showing up.

i think that is part of the reason that we have a Euro tour first....and notice no last minute cancellations or major incidents

The reason for the Euro Tour is that asides from a few stints in '01 and '02, Axl hasn't lived life on the road as a touring musician in quite a long time.

If he has legitimate plans of dropping CD in the Fall, he wants to be sure he can handle life on the road at age 44, while his voice only grows stronger day by day, and likewise for the band as well..

I wasn't talking about Axl's will to do a US tour as it seems pretty clear that he wants to do one. I was pointing at the willingness of promoters to go along with GNR.

[WeHeldTogether]

Warm up for the new songs

Yeah, the album would (hopefully) be announced for a specific day so they would probably test the new songs on the crowd, to see how much they like them.

[MR W,AXL ROSE]

i had a email of richie fortus recently and it confirms that a US tour is definetly NEXT

Hi Mark,
Thanks for taking the time to write to me.  I appologize for the lengthy
delay in responding to your email.  I've been trying to catch up on my
website emails while I'm on this tour.  Not that easy though, i'm still
only at April and I've only got 2 more weeks left on the tour!  Sorry
about causing such concern when i took the dates off of my site.  Our
management didn't want us to post the dates in case there were changes.
We didn't want to confuse anyone.  Thanks for the kind words and hope
you were able to see us on this leg.  US is next!
richard

[Meanmachine22]

US is next.. yeah no doubt i think.

But they won't start it without a single out. I just can't believe it.....
I also wouldn't wonder if we see a coheadling tour with a little band named... what was it again? They have this funny little danish drummer.....

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

No single by the time KROQ rolls around, pack your bags.  2002 all over again when everything keeps getting pushed back! 

[oldgunsfan]

I don't think so....Axl has been remarkably well behaved so far; maybe a bit of a break, put the finishing touches on CD, a release date, single, and a tour announcement.....

or maybe I'm just being overly optimistic