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« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2006, 01:10:15 AM »


Well, you just earned yourself some negative karma.

...  *tears*   Cry

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« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2006, 04:07:28 AM »

Okay getting back to the thread, I see you're only 16 (thanks Jim) and I agree that it is going to be very difficult for you to do anything about this if he gets physically violent.  I think all you can do is be supportive to your mum and let her know that you are there for her.  If he gets violent get the police.  I know that doesnt always help (I've been there!) but at least any assault is recorded and can be used later when applying for any restraining order.  There is never any excuse for a man hitting a woman as far as I am concerned despite male protests of 'she deserved it' (I got battered to shit and never once did I 'deserve it').  Be there for your mum and let her know she has your total support if she wants to get this guy out of her life. 
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« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2006, 06:30:37 AM »

Why did your mom get drunk?

Was her boyfriend drunk, also? 

There's never any reason to hit someone (unless she was hitting him first, maybe?) but if your mom is the one who was drunk, then maybe her boyfriend's "moods" aren't really a result of him being an asshole.  You didn't give enough details.

Does your mom get drunk a lot?  Do they both drink?  Again, even if the source of all the arguing is your mom (and I know it might be hard to see that, from your point of view) there's still no reason to be violent with her, unless she starts it.  For example, if she is hitting him or throwing things at him, and he is trying to subdue her, then that's acceptable.  But if that's the case, then they just need to break up.

I'm just saying, is there something about this story you're not telling us?  Is your mom an alcoholic and needs help? 

The reason I'm asking all this is it seems like this is the case a lot of times.  Someone will complain "Oh, my boyfriend beats me" or whatever, when in reality, the woman is an alcoholic or drug addict and she's always trying to start shit with the man. 
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« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2006, 07:09:57 AM »

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« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2006, 07:57:20 AM »

Why did your mom get drunk?

Was her boyfriend drunk, also??

There's never any reason to hit someone (unless she was hitting him first, maybe?) but if your mom is the one who was drunk, then maybe her boyfriend's "moods" aren't really a result of him being an asshole.? You didn't give enough details.

Does your mom get drunk a lot?? Do they both drink?? Again, even if the source of all the arguing is your mom (and I know it might be hard to see that, from your point of view) there's still no reason to be violent with her, unless she starts it.? For example, if she is hitting him or throwing things at him, and he is trying to subdue her, then that's acceptable.? But if that's the case, then they just need to break up.


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I'm just saying, is there something about this story you're not telling us?? Is your mom an alcoholic and needs help??

The reason I'm asking all this is it seems like this is the case a lot of times.? Someone will complain "Oh, my boyfriend beats me" or whatever, when in reality, the woman is an alcoholic or drug addict and she's always trying to start shit with the man.?
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« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2006, 09:49:08 AM »

The reason I'm asking all this is it seems like this is the case a lot of times.? Someone will complain "Oh, my boyfriend beats me" or whatever, when in reality, the woman is an alcoholic or drug addict and she's always trying to start shit with the man.?

So you're saying that if she's been drinking and picks a fight, it's allright for him to get physical with her?   Huh
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« Reply #26 on: August 14, 2006, 10:14:00 AM »

The reason I'm asking all this is it seems like this is the case a lot of times.? Someone will complain "Oh, my boyfriend beats me" or whatever, when in reality, the woman is an alcoholic or drug addict and she's always trying to start shit with the man.?

So you're saying that if she's been drinking and picks a fight, it's allright for him to get physical with her?? Huh?

Amish we await your reply with interest!  Careful wording may be advisable right now.
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« Reply #27 on: August 14, 2006, 11:23:20 AM »

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Again, even if the source of all the arguing is your mom (and I know it might be hard to see that, from your point of view) there's still no reason to be violent with her, unless she starts it.  For example, if she is hitting him or throwing things at him, and he is trying to subdue her, then that's acceptable.


I said if she is trying to get physically violent with him, then it's okay to try and subdue her, which could very well involve some sort of choking method, however it should not involve multiple punches, bloody noses, black eyes, that sort of thing.  I'm in no way condoning physical abuse towards women, or men for that matter.

Of course, if they're both alcoholic junkie type people, they both need to beat each other up and drown in their own vomit.  ok

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« Reply #28 on: August 14, 2006, 12:20:02 PM »


 I'm in no way condoning physical abuse towards women, or men for that matter.
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Except choking............ Roll Eyes
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« Reply #29 on: August 14, 2006, 12:33:25 PM »



I said if she is trying to get physically violent with him, then it's okay to try and subdue her, which could very well involve some sort of choking method, however it should not involve multiple punches, bloody noses, black eyes, that sort of thing.?


... of course, "that sort of thing" wouldn't be needed after he'd choked her? ?Roll Eyes
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« Reply #30 on: August 14, 2006, 02:18:28 PM »

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Again, even if the source of all the arguing is your mom (and I know it might be hard to see that, from your point of view) there's still no reason to be violent with her, unless she starts it.? For example, if she is hitting him or throwing things at him, and he is trying to subdue her, then that's acceptable.


I said if she is trying to get physically violent with him, then it's okay to try and subdue her, which could very well involve some sort of choking method, however it should not involve multiple punches, bloody noses, black eyes, that sort of thing.? I'm in no way condoning physical abuse towards women, or men for that matter.

Of course, if they're both alcoholic junkie type people, they both need to beat each other up and drown in their own vomit.? ok



Well, my soon to be ex-husband did that choking method thing too, that's why I am divorcing his ass.  Oh yeah.... he did that choking thing BECAUSE I said I was divorcing his ass.  No dude, it is NEVER, EVER, EVER alright to hit a woman.  There are plenty of non violent ways for a man to stop a woman from hitting him (unless of course he's built like pee wee herman and she's like the female = of Arnie).
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« Reply #31 on: August 14, 2006, 03:17:51 PM »

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« Reply #32 on: August 14, 2006, 03:25:25 PM »

Be there! Address? Ha Ha.....
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« Reply #33 on: August 14, 2006, 03:46:18 PM »




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« Reply #34 on: August 14, 2006, 08:01:00 PM »

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« Reply #35 on: August 14, 2006, 08:14:48 PM »

Be there! Address? Ha Ha.....

Somewhere. Around the corner. You know. Down the road, from that shop. By the station!

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« Reply #36 on: August 14, 2006, 08:22:11 PM »

You're not invited.

I should hope not... Wink
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« Reply #37 on: August 14, 2006, 09:45:55 PM »

I'm still being misunderstood.

If you're husband choked you or hit you or physically harmed you in any way because you said you were going to divorce him, that's bad in my opinion.

However, if a girl is coming at me, kicking, punching, biting, and throwing things at me like a crazy person, then I would have to get physical with her, for my own protection.  If I wasn't able to hold her down until she calmed down, then I might have to resort to some sort of choke out tactic.  It depends on the situation.  You can't tell me that it's absolutely never right to physically subdue someone just because they are a woman. 

Please read my entire statements and understand what my words mean before you reply with an argument.  I don't care if you disagree with me, but please, disagree with what I said, not with what you think I said. 
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« Reply #38 on: August 14, 2006, 10:04:26 PM »

Okay then... I disagree with what you said   ok
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« Reply #39 on: August 14, 2006, 10:15:11 PM »

Don't make me choke you!   Angry

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