Zakk Wylde: Unreleased GN'R tracks in Duff's vault!

[Continental Drift]

Thanks for that... it also proves the Axl not joining in thing as wrong.

we jammed over a whole bunch of shit and came out with three pretty cool ideas. That was with the whole band: Axl, Slash, Dizzy, Duff, Matt and me. We were all just jammin' together and havin' a blast.

Yeah. I think he was definitely "around". I'm not sure how much he was singing or playing the piano or whatever. I think Slash, Duff, Matt, etc. have all talked about how during this time (mid 90s) Axl was just hanging out in the producer's bunker and obsessively tinkering with the band's "sound". I think that qualifies as "jamming" for Axl though.

[michaelvincent]

The 'transition period' of GnR to me is the most interesting. By transition I mean the period of time as original members drifted out and the new guys came in, but before the final new lineup because so many people are rumored to have played with Axl in some capacity. I would be especially interested to hear the stuff they worked on while Axl was playing guitar, and what they were working on when Duff was the last of the original band still hanging around (besides Axl). Given what we've read I would say that we were probably looking at a lineup of Axl, Duff, Robin, Paul Huge, Dizzy, and Josh Freese. But at that time we also know that quite a few other players were around (Dave Abbruzzese of Pearl Jam, Billy Howerdel, Chris Vrenna, etc). I know they didn't record much in the way of proper songs but the ideas must have been awesome.

[liesin]

Hearing that stuff would be fucking mindblowing! High expectations but this must be really interesting pieces due to the many changes in the band.

[duga]

I would like to hear the "rough" UYI records Slash is supposed to have...

[DeN]

we'll have this stuff one day.
if it exists, it will be surface as bootlegs, things are stolen, things are lost...even some chinese democracy was leaked.

[CheapJon]

we'll have this stuff one day.
if it exists, it will be surface as bootlegs, things are stolen, things are lost...even some chinese democracy was leaked.

whawhaWHAT!!! is there leaked CD material?

[PhillyRiot]

I am sure there is a ton of material the old band has that we would love to hear.  Of course anytime you hear something specific like what Wlyde said is gets you excited!!!!

[Rockin' Rose]

we'll have this stuff one day.
if it exists, it will be surface as bootlegs, things are stolen, things are lost...even some chinese democracy was leaked.

whawhaWHAT!!! is there leaked CD material?

I think he means the demos

[russtcb]

we'll have this stuff one day.
if it exists, it will be surface as bootlegs, things are stolen, things are lost...even some chinese democracy was leaked.

whawhaWHAT!!! is there leaked CD material?

I think he means the demos

I would assume thats what he meant too. I tell you what.... I'd LOVE to hear what Zakk would do w/ either Better OR TWAT.

[ryan_of_lax]

I'm sure I remember reading that Zakk didn't record a single note with the band...

Maybe the songs he's referring to in Duff's vaults are the ones of the 4 piece band (Axl, Matt, Duff and Slash) that Axl and Duff spoke of in some old interviews.

[requiem156]

I'm willing to bet that it sounds like GN'R with ALOT of pinch harmonics!?

+1 to that, and I can't see why gnr would need someone like Zakk in the band if Slash was still there. Zakk doesn't have the punky/Stones rhythmic approach that you need for Guns stuff - he's more of a Sabbath type of guy. His chops are pretty good, but if you want a shredder I'd still go with the guy that is in the band, or the one that left(not mentioning names for fear of argument and thread locking).

[Vadin]

It would be nice if they released some sort of album wich featured all the songs from the past we haven't heard yet. Many groups have done that, like the beatles etc.

It's sad to say, but I think that will be the case when they are dead and buried 

or... slash & co will re-record some of it and release it with velvet revolver 

I still want to hear the "new-"gnr version of crash diet 

[St.heathen]

I'll try and find the mag with the info in at some point. ?

But i'm sure Moby's involvement with the band was around that time. Maybe just after Slash left. ?And he says the material they recorded was awsome and should have just been released there and then. ?But that due to fall outs with Slash and Duff, Axl seemed wounded and didn't release it.

Would be cool if someone like Del James or someone who wont be too one sided to give an honest opinion about those 'lost GNR years' in a book. Would be interesting.

 

[Lord Kayoss]

Read an interview with Slash in '95-said it sounded like Guns N' Ozzy

I believe that. ?I wouldn't want Zakk in GN'R. ?I'm glad he isn't in the new line-up. ?Great guitarist and blah blah but I just don't care for his style. ?Every song sounds the same. ?I can listen to Zakk-era Ozzy but I much prefer the Randy Rhoads stuff. ?Blizzard of Ozz and Diary of a Madman own anything Zakk recorded for Ozzy, IMO.

I wouldn't really want to hear the vault material, unless Axl is singing on it.

[michaelvincent]

All I'm gonna say is this....

Slash and Zakk Wylde together in GnR doing Locomotive. The power would cause you all to shit yourselves.

[jameslofton29]

But i'm sure Moby's involvement with the band was around that time. Maybe just after Slash left.  And he says the material they recorded was awsome and should have just been released there and then.  But that due to fall outs with Slash and Duff, Axl seemed wounded and didn't release it.

I doubt that Moby ever told Axl to release an album of instrumentals. Moby stated several times back then that NO vocals had been recorded during the timeframe that he was involved in the project.

[Onikeus]

 I hope the stuff that Zakk Wylde did with GNR is released one day. Zakk doesn't just shred, he writes very soulful, bluesy riffs on the guitar. His roots are with Sabbath and Zeppelin. It would be interesting to see how that'd affect GNR's sound. I think the problem was that when Zakk was jamming with Slash, Zakk overpowered him. This isn't saying he's a better guitarist, he's just brutal with his playing. There is a video of Slash and Zakk jamming on Voodoo Child where they share lead guitar and Zakk is clearly dominating Slash's playing. Slash is an awesome guitar player but Zakk's style is just so demanding. I think Slash wanted Zakk out of the band (I think he even stated this). I think Axl could have brought out the best musically in both of them and it would have been interesting to see.

[SkiX]

Oh god, this really pisses me off to think that there was good unheard gnr material!
And we will never hear it... 

[veritas55]

I don't think there is any such thing as a "lost" album with Zakk.  My understanding of what the players said was that Zakk BRIEFLY jammed with the band to see if it would work out.  It didn't.  But I would be very surprised if any fully formed songs developed, much less with vocals.  I thought Axl said that the material they kicked around for a while (and which Axl rejected) simply ended up being Slash's Snakepit's first album.  What Zakk was probably referring to was just that some of the riffs and the jams were recorded in progress.

[destroier]

If you can outlive the band, you'll hear it all.