Die Hard 4: Live Free Or Die Hard

[GnFnR87]

well i hope they change their minds too. but i think the reason behind all of this is cuz of how packed this summer is with expected blockbusters and new movies coming out practically every week. they probably figure the pg-13 rating will attract younger teenagers and make more money.

but the whole fanbase is soooo pissed off, i really hope they keep it R.

[NicoRourke]

So instead of being another "film for the family" choice they should go for the R rated one, and target the Die hard fans (no pun attended )

[guns_n_motley]

I hope they change their minds. I'm surprised they even consider a PG-13, considering the Die hard franchise and what happened with another Fox R-rated franchise (the sad Alien Vs Predator).

true, although, NOTHING couldve saved AVP. paul anderson is a hack.

[Axlfreek]

I hope they change their minds. I'm surprised they even consider a PG-13, considering the Die hard franchise and what happened with another Fox R-rated franchise (the sad Alien Vs Predator).

true, although, NOTHING couldve saved AVP. paul anderson is a hack.

You guys didn't like AVP ?! That movie rocked.

[guns_n_motley]

I hope they change their minds. I'm surprised they even consider a PG-13, considering the Die hard franchise and what happened with another Fox R-rated franchise (the sad Alien Vs Predator).

true, although, NOTHING couldve saved AVP. paul anderson is a hack.

You guys didn't like AVP ?! That movie rocked.

lets put it this way, id rather watch alien 4

[GnFnR87]

so ummmmmm. 16 days till it comes out and the rating is still unknown.

[polluxlm]

so ummmmmm. 16 days till it comes out and the rating is still unknown.

If the news were good they would have said it long ago.

[GnFnR87]

so ummmmmm. 16 days till it comes out and the rating is still unknown.

If the news were good they would have said it long ago.

maybe, maybe not. i'm not writing it off just yet. i find it hard to believe that fox will make the same mistake after the whole AVP fiasco.

[mrlee]

AVP 2 has been CONFIRMED to be a 18.

so that should rock.

[Prometheus]

so AVP2 will have ash as the hero from earth right?

[25]

so ummmmmm. 16 days till it comes out and the rating is still unknown.

The rating is irrelevant at this point, the script was developed to be a PG-13 movie. It was shot to be a PG-13 movie. It was edited to be a PG-13 movie. Unless they delay the release right now to shoot additional gore and swearing I don't see how it could possibly qualify for a hard R-rating (unless FOX begs for one for marketing purposes.)

[GnFnR87]

so ummmmmm. 16 days till it comes out and the rating is still unknown.

The rating is irrelevant at this point, the script was developed to be a PG-13 movie. It was shot to be a PG-13 movie. It was edited to be a PG-13 movie. Unless they delay the release right now to shoot additional gore and swearing I don't see how it could possibly qualify for a hard R-rating (unless FOX begs for one for marketing purposes.)

i think ur wrong there. i'm pretty sure it was meant to be an R rated movie all along and recently they decided to edit it to pg13 cuz of all the blockbusters coming out this summer.

how are u so sure it was meant to be pg13 from the start? i dont want to start an argument or anything but im just curious cuz thats the first time i heard someone say that about the movie.

[25]

i think ur wrong there. i'm pretty sure it was meant to be an R rated movie all along and recently they decided to edit it to pg13 cuz of all the blockbusters coming out this summer.

how are u so sure it was meant to be pg13 from the start? i dont want to start an argument or anything but im just curious cuz thats the first time i heard someone say that about the movie.

Bruce Willis, during his stint in the AICN talkbacks, said that word came down about the rating before shooting even started.
It's absolutely commonplace that a studio-owned franchise movie is made-to-order, and equally true that certain conditions (such as delivering a theatrical cut which achieves a particular rating) are more likely to be contractual obligations on the part of the producers and director than accidental conveniences. It's not a new development, it's the way things have always been done.

[GnFnR87]

^well thats interesting.

I've seen behind the scenes footage of McClane cursing like crazy and pics of him with blood all over him, so I think it was made as R, especially considering Bruce's reaction to it possibly being edited for a pg-13 rating.

so who knows. its going to be a very interesting couple of weeks before it comes out.

[25]

^well thats interesting.

I've seen behind the scenes footage of McClane cursing like crazy and pics of him with blood all over him, so I think it was made as R, especially considering Bruce's reaction to it possibly being edited for a pg-13 rating.

so who knows. its going to be a very interesting couple of weeks before it comes out.

Uh, Bruce's reaction was "I've seen a cut and I think it's better than the original movie." If you read an article which said otherwise then you've been duped. If you mean the article in Vanity Fair then you should see what Willis' reaction to the article was before taking it at face value.

And I'm sure there's plenty of blood and fucks in the can (blood on a shirt isn't as much of an issue as blood squirting from the jugular) awaiting the inevitable "UNCUT! UNRATED! THE VERSION YOU COULDN'T SEE IN THEATERS!" dvd. It's par for the course, as well you know. 


And to clarify, this is a post by Bruce Willis (Posting as WalterB on aintitcool.com) concerning LForDH:

"Since they have existed, I always said the first Die Hard was the only good one. I will go on record here as saying that Live Free or Die Hard is better than the first one. Take it from a guy who was there for all of them. John MaFuckin'Clane"

[GnFnR87]

well this is depressing.

its not the end of the world though, casino royale was a great pg-13 action movie so this could still be good.

bruce willis always said he wouldnt do another Die Hard unless he liked the script etc. and he knows this is the series that made him a superstar so i'm sure he wants to close it on a high note. i trust his opinion, although on the other hand it is his latest movie so i doubt he would say anything bad about it lol.

[GnFnR87]

okay,the official site now says its rated pg-13. this sucks. i will still go see it though. i guess it will still have plenty of violence just less swearing.

[Krispy Kreme]

I like everything that John McLane does! He is cool. 

[GnFnR87]

I like everything that John McLane does! He is cool.?

haha exactly. when i first heard it might be rated pg-13 i said i wouldn't go and just wait for the uncut/unrated DVD. but now that its official i think thats a little harsh, it could still be a fun movie and i've never seen John McKlane on the big screen before so im gonna still gonna go opening day.

[GnFnR87]

im seeing this tommorow night!! FUCK YEAH!!!!

im still pissed off that its pg-13 but oh well, John McClane is my favorite action hero.

i'm a huge action movie fan so i hope its good. i know its been getting alot of negativity cuz of the pg-13 rating and the fact that its the third sequel but whatever, i hope its entertaining and fun, thats all i ask.