July 30th show @ wembley, update page, update here!!!

[gabble]

hey CHINDEM
from wheres that post is?
the press?

Oh, sorry.? It was from NME.com .

[EFISH]

Pictures taken by Blueheart.

See the rest here...
http://www.gunsnroses.us/news/article.php3?id_article=98

[33]

All you whiners, just go to whatever other non-GN'R board you can find and whine there. It's getting boring hearing you whine about everything possible.

People get sick, it happens. Axl went to work when he should've called in sick and you still fucking whine.

Does it make you feel better?


One show was re-scheduled on the whole tour. People who actually went to the shows, instead of watching mobile phone recordings on Youtube, loved them.

I went to ten shows on this leg. No show was cancelled.

I don't think buying a GN'R ticket is any bigger risk than any other band. Some of you just keep living in the past and love being negative.

If you think you're being a realist, you're not. The truth is, only one show was re-scheduled. This isn't the 2002 US tour! ?
 
/jarmo

Well said Jarmo! I think on the whole people are very supportive of what happened last night. And so they should be, Axl was ill plain and simple. It was still an amazing show blew me away once again. But this thread really makes the people who whinge, whine and take any opportunity just to take pot shots at Axl and the rest of the band stand out like a sore thumb. You are all so very pathetic and have not got a great deal better to do with your time. It makes me sick really that you call yourselves Guns N Roses fans. My fiance came along last night and she is not a huge Guns fans, but on the way home she said that the fans she met yesterday were amazing people and so passionate about the band and they are the fans who should count. Not negative fuckers like you people (you all know who you are) who are stuck in the past and just whinge for the sake of trying to be contraversial on a fans web site because it makes you feel cool for two minutes! Fucking shame on you! On a lighter note it was great to meet up with Jarmo, Adz, Graciela & Cylan again your great people! And really nice to meet Steve (sorry Anything Goes!), Tonya & Christos for the first time, you guys are fucking great! Take care and see you again soon! Here are a couple of pics my missus took from the pub and wembley! Mike

Update! Anything Goes, sorry mate my missus took that one with the shitty disposable camera and cut you off! She took another one with Gracielas digital, I will get that one from Graciela and replace it because I'm sure you will be in that one. I cant believe you others were not looking at the camera in that photo, hopefully you are in the one from the digital!!! Mike

[Shirell]

Got back from London this morning.  Had a pretty wild time and let my hair down much more than I should have done!!! Anyway, show awesome a little disappointing that Axl couldnt finish the show but he did seem to be struggling in places.  I thought he sounded better at Birmingham, but the show was fantastic.  Had a great time in London I'd forgotten just how much fun that city was.

[jazjme]

Great pic, finally some good stuff to look at in thios thread , that seems to be so damn neg and full of selfish people.

Check out this link:http://www.medicinenet.com/low_blood_pressure/page4.htm#tocg

What are the causes of low blood pressure?

Conditions that reduce the volume of blood, reduce cardiac output (the amount of blood pumped by the heart), and medications are frequent causes of low blood pressure.

Causes of low blood pressure due to low blood volume

    * Dehydration is common among patients with diarrhea who lose large amounts of water in their stool, particularly when drowsiness limits their drinking of fluids or is associated with nausea and vomiting. Dehydration also can occur with prolonged vomiting of any cause because of the loss of water in the vomitus. Other causes of dehydration include exercise, sweating, fever, and heat exhaustion or heat stroke. Individuals with mild dehydration may experience only thirst and dry mouth. Moderate to severe dehydration may cause orthostatic hypotension (manifest by light-headedness, dizziness or fainting upon standing). Protracted and severe dehydration can lead to shock, kidney failure, confusion, acidosis (too much acid in the blood), coma, and even death. For more, please read the Dehydration article.

    * Moderate or severe bleeding can quickly deplete an individual?s body of blood, leading to low blood pressure or orthostatic hypotension. Bleeding can result from trauma, surgical complications, or from gastrointestinal abnormalities such as ulcers, tumors, or diverticulosis. Occasionally, the bleeding may be so severe and rapid (for example, bleeding from a ruptured aortic aneurysm) that it causes shock rapidly.

    * Severe inflammation of organs inside the body such as acute pancreatitis can cause low blood pressure. In acute pancreatitis, fluid leaves the blood to enter the inflamed tissues around the pancreas as well as the abdominal cavity, depleting the volume of blood.

Causes of low blood pressure due to heart disease

    * Weakened heart muscle can cause the heart to fail and reduce the amount of blood it pumps. One common cause of weakened heart muscle is the death of a large portion of the heart?s muscle due to a single, large heart attack or repeated smaller heart attacks (please read the Heart Attack article for more). Other examples of conditions that can weaken the heart include medications that are toxic to the heart, infections of the muscle of the heart by viruses (myocarditis), and diseases of the heart?s valves such as aortic stenosis.

    * Pericarditis is an inflammation of the pericardium (the sac surrounding the heart). Pericarditis can cause fluid to accumulate within the pericardium and around the heart, restricting the ability of the heart to pump blood.

    * Pulmonary embolism is a condition in which a blood clot in a vein (a condition called deep vein thrombosis) breaks off and travels to the heart and eventually the lung. A large blood clot can block the flow of blood into the left ventricle from the lungs and severely diminish the ability of the heart to pump blood. Pulmonary embolism is a life-threatening emergency. For more, please read the Deep Vein Thrombosis and Pulmonary Embolism article.

    * A slow heart rate (bradycardia) can decrease the amount of blood pumped by the heart. The resting heart rate for a healthy adult is between 60 and 100 beats/minute. Bradycardia (resting heart rates slower than 60 beats/minute) does not always cause low blood pressure. In fact, some highly trained athletes can have resting heart rates in the 40?s and 50?s without any symptoms. (The slow heart rates are offset by more forceful contractions of the heart that pump more blood than in non-athletes.) But in many patients bradycardia can lead to low blood pressure, light-headedness, dizziness, and even fainting.

    One example of bradycardia, sick sinus syndrome, occurs common in the elderly. This syndrome is due to degeneration of the sinus node (SA node), an area in the heart that generates electrical signals that cause the heart to beat regularly. In the sick sinus syndrome, the diseased SA node cannot generate signals fast enough to maintain a normal heart rate. Another condition that causes bradycardia is heart block. Electrical signals from the SA node must travel to the rest of the heart?s muscle to cause the heart to contract and pump blood. Normally these electrical signals are transmitted along special tissues in the heart. Heart block occurs when these specialized tissues are damaged by heart attacks, degeneration that occurs with aging, and medications. Heart block prevents some or all of the electrical signals generated by the SA node from reaching the rest of the heart, and this prevents the heart from contracting as rapidly as it otherwise would.

    * An abnormally fast heart rate (tachycardia) also can cause low blood pressure. The most common example of tachycardia causing low blood pressure is atrial fibrillation. Atrial fibrillation is a disorder of the heart characterized by rapid and irregular electrical discharges from the muscle of the heart (instead of the SA node), causing the ventricles to contract irregularly and (usually) rapidly. The rapidly contracting ventricles do not have enough time to fill maximally with blood before the each contraction, and the amount of blood that is pumped decreases, in spite of the faster heart rate. Other abnormally rapid heart rhythms such as ventricular tachycardia also can produce low blood pressure, sometimes even life-threatening shock. For more, please read the Atrial Fibrillation article.

[jazjme]

Medications that cause low blood pressure

    * Medications such as calcium channel blockers, beta blockers, and digoxin (Lanoxin) can slow the rate at which the heart contracts. Some elderly people are extremely sensitive to these medications since they are more likely to have diseased SA nodes and electrical conduction tissues. In some individuals, the heart rate can become dangerously slow even with small doses of these medications.

    * Medications used in treating high blood pressure (such as ACE inhibitors, angiotensin receptor blockers, beta-blockers, calcium channel blockers, and alpha-blockers) can excessively lower blood pressure and result in symptomatic low blood pressure especially among the elderly.

    * Diuretics (water pills) such as furosemide (Lasix) can decrease blood volume by causing excessive urination.

    * Medications used for treating depression, such as amitriptyline (Elavil), Parkinson?s disease, such as levodopa-carbidopa (Sinemet), erectile dysfunction (impotence), such as sildenafil (Viagra) when used in combination with nitroglycerine, can cause low blood pressure

    * Alcohol and narcotics also can cause low blood pressure.

Other condition s that cause low blood pressure

    * Vasovagal reaction is a common condition in which a healthy person temporarily develops low blood pressure, slow heart rate, and sometimes fainting. A vasovagal reaction typically is brought on by emotions of fear or pain such as having blood drawn or starting an intravenous infusion. Vasovagal reactions are caused by the involuntary (autonomic) nervous system releasing hormones that slow the heart and widen the blood vessels.

    * Postural (orthostatic) hypotension, as discussed previously, is a sudden drop in blood pressure when an individual stands up from a sitting, squatting, or supine (lying) position. When a person stands up, gravity causes blood to settle in the veins in the legs, hence less blood reaches the heart for pumping, and, as a result, the blood pressure drops. The body normally responds automatically to the drop in blood pressure by increasing the rate at which the heart beats and by narrowing the veins to return more blood to the heart. In patients with postural hypotension, this compensating reflex fails to occur, resulting in symptomatic low blood pressure. Postural hypotension can occur in persons of all ages but is much more common among the elderly, especially in those on medications for high blood pressure and/or diuretics. Other causes of postural hypotension include dehydration, adrenal insufficiency (discussed shortly), prolonged bed rest, diabetes that has caused damage to the autonomic nerves, alcoholism with damage to the autonomic nerves, and certain rare neurological syndromes (e.g., Shy-Drager syndrome) that damage the autonomic nerves.

    * Another form of postural hypotension occurs typically in young healthy individuals. After prolonged standing, the individual?s heart rate and blood pressure drops, causing dizziness, nausea and often fainting. In these individuals, the autonomic nervous system wrongly responds to prolonged standing by directing the heart to slow down and the veins to dilate.

    * Micturition syncope is a temporary drop in blood pressure and loss of consciousness brought about by urinating. This condition typically occurs in elderly patients and may be due to the release by the autonomic nerves of hormones that lower blood pressure.

    * Adrenal insufficiency, for example, due to Addison?s disease, can cause low blood pressure. Addison?s disease is a disorder in which the adrenal glands (small glands next to the kidneys) are destroyed. The destroyed adrenal glands can no longer produce sufficient adrenal hormones (specifically cortisol) necessary for to maintain normal bodily functions. Cortisol has many functions, one of which is to maintain blood pressure and the function of the heart. Addison?s disease is characterized by loss of weight, muscle weakness, fatigue, low blood pressure, and, sometimes, darkening of the skin.

    * Septicemia is a severe infection in which bacteria (or other infectious organisms such as fungi) enter the blood. The infection typically originates in the lungs (as pneumonia), bladder, or in the abdomen due to diverticulitis or gallstones. The bacteria then enter the blood where they release toxins and cause life-threatening and profound low blood pressure (septic shock), often with damage to several organs.

    * Anaphylaxis (anaphylactic shock) is a potentially fatal allergic reaction to medications such as penicillin, intravenous iodine used in some x-ray studies, foods such as peanuts, or bee stings. In addition to a profound drop in blood pressure, individuals may also experience hives, wheezing, and a swollen throat with difficulty breathing.

So , get your facts straight!

[KOK]

Exactly, to be honest the guy was probably completly exhausted after the show on the night of the 29th and then to go onto a club, continue drinking all while playing another 1 hour 15 min set in the baking heat is enough to exhaust anyone, especially Axl Rose with his voice. The 29th show was amazing, simply one of the best gigs i have ever been to, its a shame about what happened yesterday but i think everyone should put it into context, after everything that has happened on this tour, all the bad stuff that old Axl would have just walked off and gone home. Whatever it was yesterday it must have been serious, becuase he ultimatly didnt come back on and there are sure as hell enough people backstage who are prepared to tell him that he has to carry on and cant pussy foot around. Its just a shame this had to happen on the last date!

I just hope the major reviews are of the Saturday show and not Sundays!

Jonx

I just don`t get why he had to do a suprise show on the 29th 16 hours before the final show of the tour for which we all had the highest expactations. Where were his doctors on the 29th to advice him not to do that show!! Oh well. The show was still amazing as long as it lasted.

P.S. The London underground is a joke

[Conductorduff]

Hi, all.

I'm new here but I had the benefit of watching the gig stage side, stood nxt to Bach and Kid Rock. Bach was just with a few female friends having a beer when some guy runs over hands him the mic and pulls him up and points to the stage. He leaps on and the rest is history. He looked as shocked as everybody else and certinaly rolled with the punches.

Great gig, not the best I have been to, but I'm not really a fan of Wembley Arena, for anybody that knows it I think Brixton Academy is probably the best London venue, would be great to see GNR there, but never going to happen in reality.

Like everybody else I wait with baited breath news of the album/tour etc...

[cotis]

I think Bach deserves tons and tons of credit for how he stepped up into the role, total life saver!!

PS who would be next in line behind Baz? Tommy? Robin?

[Olorin]

Once again...

What the fuck is going on with these dancing fucking midgets?

Is it supposed to be funny?

Did they have the Chinese Democracy release date on their little GN'R T-shirts?

Were they tossed into the crowd as a keepsake, instead of the old tradition of roses?

Did they fall out of Robins beard?

But seriously, what is up with that? That is all wrong

[Mandy.]

I think Bach deserves tons and tons of credit for how he stepped up into the role, total life saver!!

PS who would be next in line behind Baz? Tommy? Robin?

I don't know about the others, but Ron's voice is pretty fucking awesome.

Or maybe it wouldn't be just one but the whole band singing.



PS.: Just saw the pic with the midgets, when someone first posted about it I thought it was a joke, but seriously, wtf??

EDIT:
PS2.: Was Tommy in his pajamas?

[TheRealThing]

GN'R's own Stonehenge routine?   

[lcg]

PS.: Just saw the pic with the midgets, when someone first posted about it I thought it was a joke, but seriously, wtf??

EDIT:
PS2.: Was Tommy in his pajamas?

I was a little confused when the midgets came on but I found it funny. However I do think confetti is enough
Tommy wasn't in pyjamas, he was wearing a checked suit thing.

[sea of black]

I totally agree with the negative responses to the 'midgets', (I think the correct term is actually dwarf).

That was a very strange part of the show, I mean it's 2006, and totally unaceptable...what's other minority groups will Axl pay to dance on stage for him...I personally find this totally stupid...must have some very backwards opinions in G'NR

[slashisvr]

i do beleive motley crue had a dwarf in there successful reunion tour

mighty mike lol

[sea of black]

And you think Motley Crue are a good band to follow?

[slashisvr]

And you think Motley Crue are a good band to follow?

motley crue are cool

GNR are my favorite band i love GNR, but i have more respect for motely crue than i ever could for GNR because they are doing what they are doing for the fans!!!and maybe because they were skint, but they are gettin along better than ever as tommy said

[chinesedemocracy05]

Whatever. When Blink 182 played the VMAS a while back, they brought out a bunch of midgets during all the small things. Blink 182 is awesome, noone slate them.

I didnt see the show, was it lots of midgets sunday night? was it offensive? or just weird?

[T_Roxie]

They looked like they were having a great time.  Baz even handed the mic to one at the end!

[Will]

It was kinda weird, I didn't know what was going on, and what was the purpose of it all. I don't have a problem with it of course, it's just that they didn't explain why they did that, no one knows if there was a reason for it.