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« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2006, 11:45:09 PM »

I think this is bad news--the album was going to be released by X-Mas '05, remember. "Libertad" now wont be out 'til Spring (code for Summer or Fall) of '07?

Why is it bad news? It just means the album will come out later than originally planned.

These guys don't seem to be on any deadline, let them take their time and put out something great.

Why is it bad news that the band cant seem to agree on a producer, havent finished song writing even though the album was originally due to be out 8 months ago and now are sending different messages out to the press? Why, indeed.
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« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2006, 12:21:48 AM »

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Why is it bad news that the band cant seem to agree on a producer, havent finished song writing even though the album was originally due to be out 8 months ago and now are sending different messages out to the press? Why, indeed.

Someone needs to remind Slash/Duff/Matt that they are no longer in GNR. They are starting to take on a strikingly similar pattern as another band we all love in terms of recording/releasing an album.

I suspect tensions are high going into this album because there is alot of anticipation to see where they go with it. Contraband was a very successful debut album, so expectations are high. I am hoping that will lead everyone to bring their best to the table. While the album was supposedly supposed to be out by now, I am encouraged by the fact they didn't just throw something out there to keep the train moving as they could have done.

In the long run, I think this path will eventually lead to the best result. I will really start to worry if 3-4 more years pass and there are various line-up changes. Until then I will try and remain optomistic.
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« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2006, 12:26:38 AM »

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Why is it bad news that the band cant seem to agree on a producer, havent finished song writing even though the album was originally due to be out 8 months ago and now are sending different messages out to the press? Why, indeed.

Someone needs to remind Slash/Duff/Matt that they are no longer in GNR. They are starting to take on a strikingly similar pattern as another band we all love in terms of recording/releasing an album.

I suspect tensions are high going into this album because there is alot of anticipation to see where they go with it. Contraband was a very successful debut album, so expectations are high. I am hoping that will lead everyone to bring their best to the table. While the album was supposedly supposed to be out by now, I am encouraged by the fact they didn't just throw something out there to keep the train moving as they could have done.

In the long run, I think this path will eventually lead to the best result. I will really start to worry if 3-4 more years pass and there are various line-up changes. Until then I will try and remain optomistic.

Oh look, Im sure well hear this material quite soon. Slash, Matt and Duff are a solid team and dont usually dick around with the dreams of grandoise that has held Chinese Democracy up, but they do tend to work at their own pace rather than pumping albums out every year. I think its just a matter of them all knuckling down and recording the stuff.
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« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2006, 02:57:21 AM »

I think the original due dates were just talking. maybe if they didn't have side efforts and businesses it might have happened quicker.. They are playing shows now so that is only a good sign.. Nobody wants new music more then me,.,
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« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2006, 07:37:39 AM »

I think the original due dates were just talking. maybe if they didn't have side efforts and businesses it might have happened quicker.. They are playing shows now so that is only a good sign.. Nobody wants new music more then me,.,

Exactly, they haven't said the album will be out on an exact date. They just kinda threw out when they hoped to roughly have the album out by.

But ya know, sh*t happens, and these guys have all had huge success in their careers, so it's not as though they have to really prove anything. Instead, they just wanna put out some great music at their own schedule. No outside pressures. That's how I see it.

If this means we have to wait a bit longer for the album, then that's unfortunate for us to have to wait, but don't hold everything these guys say so sacred. We'll get the album when they get it done, until then, just enjoy what we've already got. ok
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« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2006, 09:39:04 PM »

Pharrel Williams is only doing like one song, thats what I heard.   ok

And, an example of a concept album would be Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club by The Beatles. The concept is their alter-ego of being a quartet band that puts on an awesome show. And, concept albums are usually different, like Pink Floyd's "The Wall", which was a different view of pink floyd. But this album sounds like its going to be pretty damn good!


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« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2006, 05:50:18 PM »

aslong as its produced better than contraband... fantastic album, production a little muddy at times, drowned vocals... but ive got used to that style, so if its the same, i wudnt really mind.
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« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2006, 06:45:31 PM »

you won't have to worry about the vocals being drowned out if Rubin is the producer. RCHP, Audioslave & Slayer's vocals are as clear as ice!
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« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2006, 09:36:59 PM »

Rubin is great for taking a band to its apex...but sometimes he takes out the personality of the band and it gets a little too pop and songs based on getting one good riff...and less complex...but yeah...that would be great for VR
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« Reply #29 on: July 28, 2006, 09:54:19 PM »

Rubin is great for taking a band to its apex...but sometimes he takes out the personality of the band and it gets a little too pop and songs based on getting one good riff...and less complex...but yeah...that would be great for VR

I think you hit on something there. The guy is a genius and brings out the best of most of the bands he works with, espcially the Chilis. But ... being such a prolific producer of big albums, his production style can be very familiar because people hear about 4 or 5 albums from him a year.
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« Reply #30 on: July 28, 2006, 10:02:41 PM »

jw, what chili album did he do? stadium arcadium?
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« Reply #31 on: July 29, 2006, 12:20:11 AM »

Hes done all of them from Blood Sugar Sex Magic right? I know that for sure, maybe hes done ones before that too.
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« Reply #32 on: July 30, 2006, 07:52:33 AM »

I really did not want to wait until spring but at this point it's starting to look that way which sucks.  Having Rick Rubin would make it worth the wait though.
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« Reply #33 on: July 31, 2006, 10:12:06 AM »

Libertab will be out before Chinese Democracy.  These guys do not waste time when it comes to their music.  Had they still been in GNR, CD would have hit stores a long time ago and no one would be talking about it today.  We'd all be talking about the follow up album  I think it's great that VR is looking for the right producer.  Rick Rubin is the right man for the job - he has an awesome track record.
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« Reply #34 on: August 04, 2006, 03:03:55 AM »

Rick will pull out the best in VR.

I just don't see how Rubin could do VR, when he's got Metallica on his hands?
Whaddaya mean? I'ts not like the producer can only work with one band at a time...
Im still hoping they would work with Trent Reznor. I know Slash and Duff really like hes stuff... They could do something in the lines of "With Teeth" which would be a perfect new step for VR.

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Reznor lost his edge in the last couple of years, VR shouldn't take NIN's new direction. I'm really excited about the 'danceable' album with huge grooves, great rhythms and killer bluesy solos. But for some reasons I can't imagine Scott fitting into this conception.? no

(Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-Weiland, just think he's style wouldn't fit.)

Just what I wanted to say, Mikkamakka.

BTW did Slash & Duff say they like Renzor  Huh Roll Eyes
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« Reply #35 on: August 04, 2006, 04:07:25 AM »

Well Matt and Duff picked out Robin Finck, or so the story goes...
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« Reply #36 on: August 04, 2006, 04:16:51 AM »

Finck was apparently chosen from his with Cirque De Soliel, not Nine Inch Nails. 

The VR guys are NIN fans (theyve praised the band and played their songs during radio appearences), but I doubt they care to make that kind of music.
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« Reply #37 on: August 04, 2006, 05:42:59 AM »

They probably heard a lot of NIN vicariously through Axl.
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« Reply #38 on: August 04, 2006, 12:07:17 PM »

when are they planning on releasing the 2nd album?

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« Reply #39 on: August 06, 2006, 01:55:39 AM »

                   I can see them taking their time with it due to what may happen with Chinese Democracy. If CD is the album everyone suspects then , they are really gonna be over shadowed. Rose's album could command the most attention this Fall if it happens.

                      I can see them wanting to release a strong album to show that " Hey were just as good as Guns n Roses led by Axl Rose ."  Its smart thinking. Fine tune a good album. Pick out what will work and elminate the bad. Yes ego plays a part because I can see Scott going " I don't want a fucking dance album . "

                       
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