JULY 18TH, Sheffield, England, Hallam fm arena!!!! UK tour stop 1!!!

[MeanBone]

i don't think ron butchers anything. he's just not as soulful as bucket, his fast picking isn't half as interesting, nor accurate as BH's, and his melodic side is lacking in perfection as well.
his guitar tone also bugs me a little, even thogh he could change in time most of these things cuz he's a very skifull guitar player, i don't think he fits in gn'r. and everyone just likes him for being a nice guy... but the fact is, problably most of the roadies and guitar techs from the band are nice guys, still they're not in the band.
ron doesn't seem to fit as well. and his sound isn't half as impressive as bucket was...

[Thorazine Shuffle]

Hypothetically speaking...

If Ron was to leave GNR, Fortus can do most of Buckets parts.

The parts that Fortus can't pull off? ?Pittman can do as samples.

But I hope Ron stays.

[MeanBone]

u're not serious about having a keyboard player play shredding parts  on keyboards are you? cuz that's just retarded

[bangit]

I thought the show was very good to be honest, i was about 10m back from the front and didnt really see any bad shit goin on with the band. Axl was pissed off at the beginin and ron did seem a bit distant though through the whole evening.

Saw them in lisbon and dublin, two great shows, id say musically they were better last night, really tight, no fuck ups that i remeber, unlike the previous 2 i attended.

Only negative side for me was the lack of new tracks, why drop better? i cant understand.

Sure everythin with ron will become clear very soon, itl be fine.

One thing i have to say, which really pisses me off: during 2002 and now it seems 2006, gnr have had more technical problems than any band ive followed, wtf is goin on, if the technicians are crap, sack them!!!!!!! get some more!!!!!!!! Ok you cant do it mid tour but, for the american tour, why no get some new ones!!!

ps: the stand in drummer guy is awesome! frank someting or other. Well impressed, doen a good job that guy.

[madagas]

I agree Meanbone. Ron is skillful but does seem to lack depth or soul or whatever you want to call it. Running around on stage does not mean one has soul. Now, breakdancing like Michael Jackson

[the dirt]

Only negative side for me was the lack of new tracks, why drop better? i cant understand.

They're probably trying to make the fans forget that an album should be on the way...

[Neemo]

Hypothetically speaking...

If Ron was to leave GNR, Fortus can do most of Buckets parts.

The parts that Fortus can't pull off? ?Pittman can do as samples.

But I hope Ron stays.

yeah hypothetically speaking but i seriously hope not....nothing against Pittman or any keyboardist....but I prefer to see guitar solo's, keyboard solo's aren't my thing at all

but i seriously doubt Ron is leaving...

Only negative side for me was the lack of new tracks, why drop better? i cant understand.

They're probably trying to make the fans forget that an album should be on the way...

 

prolly cuz of the problems concerning Ron, whatever they might have been

[younggunner]

surprises/help is on the way

[the dirt]

surprises/help is on the way

What would they be?

[Thorazine Shuffle]

u're not serious about having a keyboard player play shredding parts? on keyboards are you? cuz that's just retarded

Hypothetically speaking

It's an option.

The slap breakdown in Better is a sample of Buckethead doing slap on the guitar that Ron can't (or won't) do.

So guitar samples are being done now.

Remember as well, Fortus can do 90% of Bucket parts.

[Neemo]

surprises/help is on the way

What would they be?

Jem and the holograms

[SADIS]

surprises/help is on the way

Would you mind filling us in a little more?

[St.heathen]

I'd be really dissapointed if they play no new songs at Birmingham. ?The new songs are awsome and this is the new era GNR, so the new stuff should have priority. ?Download had a great set list and that was at a festival. These are actual GNR shows now, so i'd expect even more new songs. ?

I dont go and see a band just expecting the hits and i think only a minority of people actually do just want the hits. ?Especially if it's not the people who wrote them playing them. ?But hey i'm sure those who went had a great time, especially if u haven't seen them b4, so rock on!

[dave-gnfnr2k]

They probably just did not play the new songs because of the sound problems, maybe they would not have come off good if they tried, so they didnt want to ruin the new songs by making a poor attempt at them.

[NickNasty]

surprises/help is on the way

yg, i love ya bro, but you know you can't say stuff like that here and not give more....

[nesquick]

I hate to say this because he really does seem like a nice guy. But, after listening to the live twat and other recordings from the shows, Ron simply isn't on the level of Buckethead-in any aspect except he looks normal. If he isn't around, so what? Finck and Fortus are just fine. If they need a third guitarist to fill in the sound sometimes, a rhythm player like Izzy can do that. Finck and Fortus could handle the Bucket stuff we have heard on the demos-not just like Bucket but they could do it close enough and with their own style. I honestly thought Ron butchered the end of twat from Madrid and seems to butcher Nov Rain as well. Where Bucket shows restraint, Ron seems to shred more. I don't know...maybe it is just me.

nesquick?

 

I'm a visionary. that's it.

[Madagascar88]

please no one else write anything along the lines of "hypothetically if Ron leaves the band"... I don't want to hear it... its not a possibility and it shows disrespect towards a guy whose in GNR to stay

[madagas]

Madagascar88, Even he doesn't know if he is in Gnr to stay! Please....

[jameslofton29]

please no one else write anything along the lines of "hypothetically if Ron leaves the band"... I don't want to hear it... its not a possibility and it shows disrespect towards a guy whose in GNR to stay

Gimme a fucking break. You are the last person in the world that should be telling someone not to write something down.

[ppbebe]

What happen? should I read 22 pages to get a grip?

surprises/help is on the way

Maybe but if that's the case, what came first,  this or that?