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« on: July 16, 2006, 05:51:53 PM »

I was wondering what everone thinks the chances of Chinese Democracy getting actual fair reviews when it's finally released?

I just can't see (at least in the US) the music press judging the album based soley on the music. I feel that several other factors like the timespan, the newer members, the reviewers personal feelings on Axl will come into play and make for tainted reviews.

What does everyone else think?
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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2006, 05:54:32 PM »

the reviews will be fair.
they have been so far.
but people around here chose to ignore Axl's faults, and always blame it on the press.
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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2006, 06:00:11 PM »

i dont think they'll be fair. they'll be polarised, with it being worth it or not. the album wont be judged as of itself but purely on wether or not the reviewer deems the split and the decade of silence to have been worth it.

something around 70% against i'd expect.
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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2006, 06:03:59 PM »

My predictions: ?(a bunch of a-holes taking out their hostilities on Axl)

Stuff like "Not bad, but over a decade for this?" and "It just doesn't feel the same without the classic group" and "6 out of 10 stars" or "3 out of 5 stars"

oh hell, the critics won't even have to listen to the album halfway through to write their bullshit reviews. ? rant

Why am I so sure this album will be of top-notch quality? ?Just listen to the progression of the new songs. ?Songs like IRS, TWAT, Maddy, and Chinese Democracy (which were great to start with) have all improved since our first listens. ?Even the Blues has the added piano in the beginning which I personally dig alot.

It's going to be one hell of a feeling buying this album and actually holding it in my hands. ? beer

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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2006, 06:04:06 PM »

Of course they won't be good.

No reviewer could ignore the absolute farce that has been the band since it split up.

Although I love the new band members, as a band they have messed everything up. Instead of returning in 2001/2 with a single, album and world tour we got just the later and even that was pulled.

Now they return again in 06, with no explanation offered for the 4 year delay and still don't bother to release any music.

Its far from certain that any new music will be released at all, never mind this year.
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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2006, 06:05:53 PM »

If the reviewer just looks at the actualy album I'm sure they'll all say it's good - excellent but they will all bring up the (fair) points that it ain't gnr anymore and its taken 10 years to make....
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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2006, 06:06:43 PM »

Yeah, most of the reviews have been fair so far, I don't think there'll be a huge change on that when CD comes out.
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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2006, 06:10:15 PM »

 The reviews are already written.
They will say this.

It was not worth the wait.
Where are slashs solos.
This band is not gnr without slash.
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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2006, 06:14:02 PM »

The reviews are already written.
They will say this.

It was not worth the wait.
Where are slashs solos.
This band is not gnr without slash.



well, stairway to heaven, estranged would not be worth the 15 year wait, so that part is true
Slash solos are in VR, we have Robin Finck and Buckethead solos
This band is not GNR. Axl should change the band's name to "Guns N'Roses without Slash"
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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2006, 06:14:33 PM »

the reviews will be fair.
they have been so far.
but people around here chose to ignore Axl's faults, and always blame it on the press.


The reviews will be highly biased against or towards the band.. I expect there to be some that are fair though. Most likely 75% biased in either direction and 25% fair.
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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2006, 06:14:59 PM »

Of course they won't be good.

No reviewer could ignore the absolute farce that has been the band since it split up.

Although I love the new band members, as a band they have messed everything up. Instead of returning in 2001/2 with a single, album and world tour we got just the later and even that was pulled.

Now they return again in 06, with no explanation offered for the 4 year delay and still don't bother to release any music.

Its far from certain that any new music will be released at all, never mind this year.

The reviewer's job is not to review, or comment on, the "absolute farce that has been the band since it split up." ?The reviewer's job is to review the album in question, to review the music. ?If a reviewer comments on anything else other than music itself, he/she is not doing their job. ?Any comments regarding the length of time spent making the album are asinine because we don't know for sure exactly how much time was spent working on the music and how much wasn't. ?Also, it isn't like the band has been sitting there working on only an album's worth of songs, they've been working on three albums worth of songs.

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« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2006, 06:20:06 PM »

CD could be brilliant, great whatever but it's always going to get slated for taking so long and there is nothink anyoen can do about that.
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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2006, 06:23:49 PM »

The reviews will be like: "I didn't listen to it and I didn't like it!"
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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2006, 06:26:21 PM »

I bet there'll be at least one review that will say:

Slash really changed his guitar style over the years.
He started to shread, and has evolved into a real goth beer

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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2006, 06:30:34 PM »

Why is everyone being so negative about this? Don't forget there's been a lot of good reviews lately.
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« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2006, 06:31:05 PM »

About the reviews, it's plain and simple......

For the good reviews, we'll all sing praise.

And for the reviews that rate the album poorly, we'll all bitch and moan and throw sticks and stones.

Don't believe me, just wait and see.
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« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2006, 06:45:15 PM »

people will say it sucks bc slash isnt in guns anymore or say it sucks bc ppl dont think it should be called guns n roses or wwhat ever. And axll does not need to change the to gnr w/o slash bc guns still fucking rock the shit out of every show they play. and axl has proven he can call it guns n roses with out slash and duff and izzy by his side writing songs looks at better twat and maddy.
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« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2006, 07:02:17 PM »

The only way the wait is justified is if it's the best album ever, which it wont be therefore most reviews will go along the lines of "good album but after this long that's pretty much the bare minimum of achievment".

The press might change their tune if all 3 come out after a while, then they'll be more like "wow, I guess Axl actually cooked up 10 years plus worth of A material over the years. Why the hell did he wait till this long to release it all?".
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« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2006, 07:17:17 PM »

My predictions: ?(a bunch of a-holes taking out their hostilities on Axl)

Stuff like "Not bad, but over a decade for this?" and "It just doesn't feel the same without the classic group" and "6 out of 10 stars" or "3 out of 5 stars"

oh hell, the critics won't even have to listen to the album halfway through to write their bullshit reviews. ? rant

Why am I so sure this album will be of top-notch quality? ?Just listen to the progression of the new songs. ?Songs like IRS, TWAT, Maddy, and Chinese Democracy (which were great to start with) have all improved since our first listens. ?Even the Blues has the added piano in the beginning which I personally dig alot.

It's going to be one hell of a feeling buying this album and actually holding it in my hands. ? beer



the blues has always had the piano in the begining....hasn't it
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« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2006, 07:22:11 PM »

I think Stepen Thomas Erpawine at the AMG Music Guide will give it two stars.
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