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« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2006, 11:25:41 AM »

I'd be happy with Don't Cry, Civil War, Coma and Estranged in the setlist.? Nothing else.

exactally.

coma and estranged would sound sooo good with 3 guitarists!

and Don't Cry and Civil War would be awesome for the fans..
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« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2006, 12:45:15 PM »

I don't think they would play Coma without Slash.
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« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2006, 12:50:08 PM »

i can see them doing coma without slash--and i can see it being amazing.

i highly doubt they would play estranged without slash because of what it means to axl and all that stuff soeone already ndiscussed in this thread.

its sad but true... we probably wont ever hear estranged played live ever again.
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« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2006, 03:57:00 PM »

i can see them doing coma without slash--and i can see it being amazing.

i highly doubt they would play estranged without slash because of what it means to axl and all that stuff soeone already ndiscussed in this thread.

its sad but true... we probably wont ever hear estranged played live ever again.


Don't agree personally. I think Estranged will make it's way back at some point. Untill I hear Axl Rose say himself that he could'nt play that tune without Slash, I'm not buying this.
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« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2006, 04:00:49 PM »

i can see them doing coma without slash--and i can see it being amazing.

i highly doubt they would play estranged without slash because of what it means to axl and all that stuff soeone already ndiscussed in this thread.

its sad but true... we probably wont ever hear estranged played live ever again.


Don't agree personally. I think Estranged will make it's way back at some point. Untill I hear Axl Rose say himself that he could'nt play that tune without Slash, I'm not buying this.

im sure he has said it at some point, that song is axls and slash made it that it that song also with the riff so it wont be plyaed agian!!!!
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« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2006, 05:53:01 PM »

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« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2006, 10:42:50 PM »

sad thing is I don't think these guys can play estranged up to axl expections
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« Reply #27 on: July 14, 2006, 11:25:15 PM »

There's a number of songs from Illusions I'd love to hear performed possibly this fall. That is of course if Axl decides to switch the set up every show or something like that, that would be awesome.

Locomotive
14 Years
Yesterdays
Coma
Estranged
Civil War
Dead Horse
Don't Cry

Maybe drop LALD, YCBM, and a solo, no matter how much I liked the "Beautiful" solo, I would prefer to have more songs played.
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« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2006, 06:05:34 AM »

There's a number of songs from Illusions I'd love to hear performed possibly this fall. That is of course if Axl decides to switch the set up every show or something like that, that would be awesome.

Locomotive
14 Years
Yesterdays
Coma
Estranged
Civil War
Dead Horse
Don't Cry

Maybe drop LALD, YCBM, and a solo, no matter how much I liked the "Beautiful" solo, I would prefer to have more songs played.

I just don't believe that they would play Locomotive, Coma or Civil War without Slash. Look at the credits, read some interviews. Especially Coma, it's totally Slash's tune. Estranged would be possible, but even old band had troubles playing it live so.. I don't know. If they'll do it some day, I hope Fortus is going to do Slash's parts. 14 Years with Izzy would be awesome though ok
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« Reply #29 on: July 15, 2006, 10:45:31 AM »

I'd be happy with Don't Cry, Civil War, Coma and Estranged in the setlist.? Nothing else.

i'd love them to play Don't Cry, that song is dearly missed by fans
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« Reply #30 on: July 15, 2006, 12:15:47 PM »

There's a number of songs from Illusions I'd love to hear performed possibly this fall. That is of course if Axl decides to switch the set up every show or something like that, that would be awesome.

Locomotive
14 Years
Yesterdays
Coma
Estranged
Civil War
Dead Horse
Don't Cry

Maybe drop LALD, YCBM, and a solo, no matter how much I liked the "Beautiful" solo, I would prefer to have more songs played.

I just don't believe that they would play Locomotive, Coma or Civil War without Slash. Look at the credits, read some interviews. Especially Coma, it's totally Slash's tune. Estranged would be possible, but even old band had troubles playing it live so.. I don't know. If they'll do it some day, I hope Fortus is going to do Slash's parts. 14 Years with Izzy would be awesome though ok

yeah I know they're Slash's songs, but still I'd love to hear them live.
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« Reply #31 on: July 18, 2006, 02:53:45 PM »

this has been said many atimes before my friend, use the search bar.

as for estranged, he wont play that song without slash, it means too much to him!!slash came up with that riff and its axls song also, so he wont play it for some reason

but if you think about, scom is axl's song but slash came up with the riff for that one to.  so should that mean no more scom?  just a thought.
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« Reply #32 on: July 18, 2006, 03:55:01 PM »

this has been said many atimes before my friend, use the search bar.

as for estranged, he wont play that song without slash, it means too much to him!!slash came up with that riff and its axls song also, so he wont play it for some reason

but if you think about, scom is axl's song but slash came up with the riff for that one to.? so should that mean no more scom?? just a thought.


It's a good point. I do not believe that songs not being played are due to some connection to Slash that Axl can't get past. I think Axl's shown a desire to be independent, would'nt you say?
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« Reply #33 on: July 18, 2006, 04:06:36 PM »

this has been said many atimes before my friend, use the search bar.

as for estranged, he wont play that song without slash, it means too much to him!!slash came up with that riff and its axls song also, so he wont play it for some reason

but if you think about, scom is axl's song but slash came up with the riff for that one to.? so should that mean no more scom?? just a thought.


It's a good point. I do not believe that songs not being played are due to some connection to Slash that Axl can't get past. I think Axl's shown a desire to be independent, would'nt you say?

But IMO it's not just about Axl. Think about Finck and Brain playing DTJ.. could they get it so energetic and emotional as Slash and Matt did? This was just one example, but I think that many of the old tunes needs the old guys. Ofcourse not all of them, but some do. I don't mean that new guys aren't good enough, but maybe they're not just interested playing some of the UYI-songs 'cause they just can't get the right feeling for them or something. I don't believe that Axl could just say "let's play Coma tomorrow" and they would do it just because Axl wants it. I might be alone with these opinions, but I don't care.

And Estranged is very hard to play (at least for the old band) so I think that's one of the reasons for not playing it now.
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« Reply #34 on: July 18, 2006, 04:39:10 PM »

Actually I think that they sat down at some point and decided that it would Appetite stuff dominantly, a couple of Illusion and some new ones. I understand them not changing it up for the Summer tour. But, where I dis-agree with most people here is in the Fall tour, people saying they could'nt pull off the old songs because of lack of emotion, or a loyalty by Axl to Slash or something, it's boo-cacka! These guys coud and would attempt to play anything, if given the chance. We'll see.
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« Reply #35 on: July 18, 2006, 06:37:56 PM »

Playing more old songs is not the direction the band should be going.

Play a handful of classics and leave the rest open for new material.
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