Why did Axl record new vocals for Live Era??

[BaDoBsEsSiOn418]

I hardly ever listen to the album because of this.  It makes it much less authentic. 

Does anyone know why?

[slashisvr]

because he wasnt happy with the way some of the lyrics were sung i guess, like the whole song would of been unless axl slipped and there for mumbling some words, so he must have redone them because he cares so much about us!!

[BaDoBsEsSiOn418]

but then it's not a real live album.   

[slashisvr]

but then it's not a real live album.? ?

nope.some of slashs notes have been redone.

[CheapJon]

that was just a rumour.. and that rumour aint true..
watch the "use your illusion DVD" from tokyo and watch estranged that's the exact same song that's on the live era.. i think "move to the city" is also from that concert.. just watch it and have the cd ready to compare the 2 and you'll see that it's the exact same

[CheapJon]

that was just a rumour.. and that rumour aint true..
watch the "use your illusion DVD" from tokyo and watch estranged that's the exact same song that's on the live era.. i think "move to the city" is also from that concert.. just watch it and have the cd ready to compare the 2 and you'll see that it's the exact same

these songs are from the tokyo concert:

Disc 1:

11. November Rain [Tokyo, Japan 02-22-1992] (Recorded by Jim Mitchell)


Disc 2:

02. Pretty Tied Up [Tokyo, Japan 02-22-1992] (Recorded by Jim Mitchell)

04. Move To The City [Tokyo, Japan 02-22-1992] (Recorded by Jim Mitchell)
05. You Could Be Mine [Tokyo, Japan 02-22-1992] (Recorded by Jim Mitchell)

09. Don't Cry [Tokyo, Japan 02-22-1992] (Recorded by Jim Mitchell)
10. Estranged [Tokyo, Japan 02-22-1992] (Recorded by Jim Mitchell)


watch the damn DVD and listen to the album and stop believe in stupid rumours about axl

[kaasupoltin]

I haven't listen to Live Era for a long time, but doesn't Axl sing that "..with your ass in the air!" -part on YCBM? 'Cause I don't remember hearing it on the Tokyo-DVD's. Actually I have heard it only on '93-bootlegs (probably late '92 too)

[IzzyDutch]

I thought Axl even said some vocals are re-recorded... that part about Slash is new to me though, also it seems unlikely to me since he's not the type who'd redo solos like that.

The songs from the concerts where picked by Del James and he did a lousy job at it.. for example the Rocket Queen version, there are tons of better versions of it out there. Hell this version doesn't even have a second guitar on it. Don't know what happened with Gilby's guitar but it ain't on it.

[kaasupoltin]

The songs from the concerts where picked by Del James and he did a lousy job at it.. for example the Rocket Queen version, there are tons of better versions of it out there. Hell this version doesn't even have a second guitar on it. Don't know what happened with Gilby's guitar but it ain't on it.

That's true. I know alot of better versions.. not just RQ, but other songs too. And why isn't DTJ on this record.. one of the best live songs ever.

[Origen]

To be it's pretty damn ovious it's been over dubbed. As for Estranged imo, if you Listen ot the Live Era version and the UYI DVD version you can tell it's been overdubbed, especailly the last verse, it isn't as raspy as the UYI DVD version.

Get the bootlegs from the shows the sogns are taken from and you'll be able to hear that the majority (not exactly all) songs/parts have been over dubbed vocally and/or the guitar work.

[tomass74]

I haven't listen to Live Era for a long time, but doesn't Axl sing that "..with your ass in the air!" -part on YCBM? 'Cause I don't remember hearing it on the Tokyo-DVD's. Actually I have heard it only on '93-bootlegs (probably late '92 too)

I think the Tokyo DVD's were a collaboration of 2 shows...

[kaasupoltin]

I haven't listen to Live Era for a long time, but doesn't Axl sing that "..with your ass in the air!" -part on YCBM? 'Cause I don't remember hearing it on the Tokyo-DVD's. Actually I have heard it only on '93-bootlegs (probably late '92 too)

I think the Tokyo DVD's were a collaboration of 2 shows...

But I don't hear it on the bootlegs either..

[Tomorrows]

Cheating on live discs is a fairly common thing. If you want a pure live audio experience, get the boots.

[greendog]

that was just a rumour.. and that rumour aint true..
watch the "use your illusion DVD" from tokyo and watch estranged that's the exact same song that's on the live era..

i think you will find your wrong...

on the Live Era CD, he introduces the song, and the song starts. notice how he sings the first lines smoothly.
go and listen to the DVD, you will see that when he introduces the song, and starts singing, it aint smooth and nice, hes singing with loads of rasp.

just one of many alterations.

hell i love the cd though, dont care if its not 'proper' live, it still sounds it.

[slashisvr]

november rain was clearly from the tokyo DVDs, and slash's solo was redone!!you can tell, or it was a diffrent solo from another concert!!

[kaasupoltin]

I think they've mixed some songs with different versions.. but anyway, I don't consider it as a real LIVE-album anymore. It's like LLAS
But anyway, www.gnrontour.com says:

Disc 1
1. Nightrain [Las Vegas, 1.25.92]
2. Mr. Brownstone [London, 8.31.91]
3. It's So Easy [Paris, 6.6.92]
4. Welcome To The Jungle
5. Dust N' Bones [New York, 5.16.91]
6. My Michelle [London, 8.31.91]
7. You're Crazy [Tokyo, 12.10.88]
8. Used To Love Her [Tokyo, 12.10.88]
9. Patience [1st half - Mexico '93 OR Paris, 7.13.93; 2nd half - Paris, 6.6.92]
10. It's Alright [Houston, 9.4.92]
11. November Rain [Tokyo, 2.22.92]
12. Coma [Omaha, 4.10.93] * ^

Disc 2
1. Out Ta Get Me [London, 6.28.87]
2. Pretty Tied Up [Tokyo, 2.22.92]
3. Yesterdays [Las Vegas, 1.25.92]
4. Move To The City [Tokyo, 2.22.92]
5. You Could Be Mine [Tokyo, 2.22.92]
6. Rocket Queen [Las Vegas, 1.25.92]
7. Sweet Child O' Mine [Paris, 6.6.92]
8. Knockin' On Heaven's Door [London, 4.20.92]
9. Don't Cry [Tokyo, 2.22.92]
10. Estranged [Tokyo, 2.22.92]
11. Paradise City [Las Vegas, 1.25.92]

No way! It can't be true. Listen to YCBM for example..

[slashisvr]

I think they've mixed some songs with different versions.. but anyway, I don't consider it as a real LIVE-album anymore. It's like LLAS
But anyway, www.gnrontour.com says:

Disc 1
1. Nightrain [Las Vegas, 1.25.92]
2. Mr. Brownstone [London, 8.31.91]
3. It's So Easy [Paris, 6.6.92]
4. Welcome To The Jungle
5. Dust N' Bones [New York, 5.16.91]
6. My Michelle [London, 8.31.91]
7. You're Crazy [Tokyo, 12.10.88]
8. Used To Love Her [Tokyo, 12.10.88]
9. Patience [1st half - Mexico '93 OR Paris, 7.13.93; 2nd half - Paris, 6.6.92]
10. It's Alright [Houston, 9.4.92]
11. November Rain [Tokyo, 2.22.92]
12. Coma [Omaha, 4.10.93] * ^

Disc 2
1. Out Ta Get Me [London, 6.28.87]
2. Pretty Tied Up [Tokyo, 2.22.92]
3. Yesterdays [Las Vegas, 1.25.92]
4. Move To The City [Tokyo, 2.22.92]
5. You Could Be Mine [Tokyo, 2.22.92]
6. Rocket Queen [Las Vegas, 1.25.92]
7. Sweet Child O' Mine [Paris, 6.6.92]
8. Knockin' On Heaven's Door [London, 4.20.92]
9. Don't Cry [Tokyo, 2.22.92]
10. Estranged [Tokyo, 2.22.92]
11. Paradise City [Las Vegas, 1.25.92]

No way! It can't be true. Listen to YCBM for example..

wasnt out ta get me 87 at the marquee??wasnt that the only GNR UK gig in 87??and that isnt from the marquee on the album

[slashisvr]

if that list is true also, doesnt it seem weird that they miss alot of the erlier years??i mean IMHO some of there best gigs were in the 87-89 era, why would they include them?

[kaasupoltin]

if that list is true also, doesnt it seem weird that they miss alot of the erlier years??i mean IMHO some of there best gigs were in the 87-89 era, why would they include them?

..And almost every song is from '92. Del James has to be deaf

[slashisvr]

it certainly appears so.he also missed classics, i also think they should have made it inot a show like having slash's godfather theme into another song.they missed some great songs!!AND WHY DO THE JAPS GET COMA???