CD to be released NOV (From Sp1at)

[Mutherfunker]

The number of things that are different this year compared to previous years regarding GNR activities are too many to list.

To suggest nothing is different, and it seems as unlikely to get an album this year as any previous year is a very thin argument.

Unless you are very naive about journalism, you'll realise the NYT article is irrelevant to this discussion.

@#$%Funker

[Jonx]

Nothing is official until it comes from Sanctuary. When things go well for Axl he believes he can do anything............ when they go bad shit hits the fan and things constantly change!

Jonx

[rubinone]

It's acutally quite funny, I'll never get tired of reading about all the dicussions around CD.

If there's something that I've it's not to take too seriously about anything and to stay positive. Been negative is just a waste of energy.

I've seen two shows so far this year. One in Warsaw, Poland and the other one in Roskilde, Denmark and they were both mindblowing experiences!! I waited 18 years too see GNR and it was definitely worth it. I had a ticket to a GNR show for the first time 1988 when they were about to support M?tley Crue but they cancelled because of Nikki Sixx overdose. After that I've had tickets to a GNR show 2 times and they cancelled both times (2001, 2002).

Now I've seen them twice in 2 weeks and I continue to wait for CD, and If I've waited as long as I have done, I simply coninue to wait.

[Mikkamakka]

Axl toured in 2002.? Didn't change anything.? The last time he tried to tour America, he cancelled on some very unhappy fans in Philly.? Around and around we go...

Just because he said we'll "hear music this year" and "fall to late fall" doesn't mean anything.? ?Read the article I linked above.? Axl will find something else to tinker with, especially after being on the road with the band for a few months.? One thing was obvious from that article and that is Axl thinks its 'his way or the highway'.? Most musicians will tell you that type of mentality is never going to be received well by the other members.? Axl has single-handedly wrecked the old lineup, wasted millions of dollars of recording time, and cancelled any good-will he had from American fans with his antics in 2002.

Your entire second paragraph is dead horse. You can look up the realist point of view there.

AS for your first point, he has given us a time frame. This is not something that we have been given before. If you choose not to believe him then that is your right, but it is not a certainty or a fact or any other indisputable issue.

You're a regular here so please take the time to memorize this:

DJ: When is it gonna be the new album? Is it possible that we're gonna have a new record from Guns N' Roses?

Axl: Yes, I've heard. Um, hopefully we will put out a new single umm sometime this spring and then the record gonna be done in June or shortly thereafter.

Axl interview Radio Rock And Pop Chile
Radio Rock And Pop Chile, January 2001

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=39

[Voodoochild]

The number of things that are different this year compared to previous years regarding GNR activities are too many to list.

To suggest nothing is different, and it seems as unlikely to get an album this year as any previous year is a very thin argument.

Unless you are very naive about journalism, you'll realise the NYT article is irrelevant to this discussion.

@#$%Funker

Awesome post. And you're 100% right about the NYT article. People are using this piece of shit like it would proove something. Bullshit, this article claims so many urban legends towards the CD that makes it even less credible. Also, NYT is not trustable at all, I can say that for sure.

Axl: Yes, I've heard. Um, hopefully we will put out a new single umm sometime this spring and then the record gonna be done in June or shortly thereafter.

Hopefully. Something went wrong, so what? This time, he said def this year.

[Mikkamakka]

The number of things that are different this year compared to previous years regarding GNR activities are too many to list.

To suggest nothing is different, and it seems as unlikely to get an album this year as any previous year is a very thin argument.

Unless you are very naive about journalism, you'll realise the NYT article is irrelevant to this discussion.

@#$%Funker

Awesome post. And you're 100% right about the NYT article. People are using this piece of shit like it would proove something. Bullshit, this article claims so many urban legends towards the CD that makes it even less credible. Also, NYT is not trustable at all, I can say that for sure.

Axl: Yes, I've heard. Um, hopefully we will put out a new single umm sometime this spring and then the record gonna be done in June or shortly thereafter.

Hopefully. Something went wrong, so what? This time, he said def this year.

I hope it'll come out this year but you should understand that when you're talking about the future you could always insert the word 'hopefully' - and just because Axl inserted this it doesn't mean that anything could explain that 5 (five) years later we still haven't heard the album. BTW I think that Axl's  'hopefully' referred to the first single's release not the album's.

[madagas]

Voodoo, come on man.....Axl isn't any more credible than the other band members...maybe even less credible. He changes his mind all the time. He said the album would definitely come out in 2003 on a Detroit radio interview in late 2002. I'm not bashing Axl. Just stating facts. The guy is very unpredictable. Tracklist was done in 2002-remember that? Time to wrap up the baby then a month later soon wasn't the word. Axl's words are meaningless.

[slashisvr]

cool!!!hope nothing stops axl this time and everything goes ahead!!!

seems logical

[jameslofton29]

Voodoo, come on man.....Axl isn't any more credible than the other band members...maybe even less credible. He changes his mind all the time. He said the album would definitely come out in 2003 on a Detroit radio interview in late 2002. I'm not bashing Axl. Just stating facts. The guy is very unpredictable. Tracklist was done in 2002-remember that? Time to wrap up the baby then a month later soon wasn't the word. Axl's words are meaningless.

Here's the quote you're referring to:

"There are a lot of new songs that were just done in the last year that we feel that ?Okay, well that bumps a lot of stuff of the previous list,? but it?s time to stop that now and wrap up the baby.  It feels right, the timing, and a lot of things.  We?ve sorted it down to what songs are on the record.  What the sequence of the songs is.  The album cover art is ready.? ? Axl Rose (August, 2002)

[Locomotive98]

And 4 years later..... 

[killingvector]

Axl toured in 2002.  Didn't change anything.  The last time he tried to tour America, he cancelled on some very unhappy fans in Philly.  Around and around we go...

Just because he said we'll "hear music this year" and "fall to late fall" doesn't mean anything.   Read the article I linked above.  Axl will find something else to tinker with, especially after being on the road with the band for a few months.  One thing was obvious from that article and that is Axl thinks its 'his way or the highway'.  Most musicians will tell you that type of mentality is never going to be received well by the other members.  Axl has single-handedly wrecked the old lineup, wasted millions of dollars of recording time, and cancelled any good-will he had from American fans with his antics in 2002.

Your entire second paragraph is dead horse. You can look up the realist point of view there.

AS for your first point, he has given us a time frame. This is not something that we have been given before. If you choose not to believe him then that is your right, but it is not a certainty or a fact or any other indisputable issue.

You're a regular here so please take the time to memorize this:

DJ: When is it gonna be the new album? Is it possible that we're gonna have a new record from Guns N' Roses?

Axl: Yes, I've heard. Um, hopefully we will put out a new single umm sometime this spring and then the record gonna be done in June or shortly thereafter.

Axl interview Radio Rock And Pop Chile
Radio Rock And Pop Chile, January 2001

http://www.heretodaygonetohell.com/articles/showarticle.php?articleid=39

Axl's comments after the VMAs  were clear enough. His comments during the Eddie Trunk show, even more so. I agree that the quote which you have posted seems a bit vague and uncertain, but I agree he did mention a plan.

thanks for the reference, though.

[Voodoochild]

I hope it'll come out this year but you should understand that when you're talking about the future you could always insert the word 'hopefully' - and just because Axl inserted this it doesn't mean that anything could explain that 5 (five) years later we still haven't heard the album. BTW I think that Axl's  'hopefully' referred to the first single's release not the album's.

Well, I think there's a big difference there. As I understand, by that time they had an album done. We all heard demos and I think there was a lot more material. Something went wrong... But the situation now is different. Now, we have more new songs, we have a full sucessful tour and, for god's sake, a very tight band. The whole environment is better now.

Also the word "hopefully" could be about both single and album.

Voodoo, come on man.....Axl isn't any more credible than the other band members...maybe even less credible. He changes his mind all the time. He said the album would definitely come out in 2003 on a Detroit radio interview in late 2002. I'm not bashing Axl. Just stating facts. The guy is very unpredictable. Tracklist was done in 2002-remember that? Time to wrap up the baby then a month later soon wasn't the word. Axl's words are meaningless.

I know. But not only him, but the whole band were being a little too vague in 2001/2002. I remember all those things, but you remember too how things went wrong with the US tour. Also, you may remember the VMA interview, when he stated how "soon is not the word".

It's very hard for me to put some logic in such a volatile person, you know. But even the most skeptical person would see how things are happening now and how it's more likely to a release now.

[Neemo]

I heard about this too...i guess we'll wait and see

BTW is there any source...besides bigboss

[Voodoochild]

Where did you heard about this?

[madagas]

Neemo, Your source is common sense Voodoo, things are different I know but putting blind faith in Axl's statements is risky business.

[theillusion]

Neemo, Your source is common sense Voodoo, things are different I know but putting blind faith in Axl's statements is risky business.

i agree it is a risky venture especially with all those times in the past axl said the album coming out as stated here before me 

[LookingThruThisPOV]

If you look at the facts and look at prior Axl promises in reference to CD, you'll see the band is actually in a worse position now to release CD than they ever were before.  Hell, he just named the new lead guitarist in May!   There's nothing new about 2006.  If anything, Axl should have just worked to get the album completely done before doing any further tours.  It would have been the right thing to do.

[dave-gnfnr2k]

If BH didnt quit in 04 (was it) we would have had this album by now

[killingvector]

If you look at the facts and look at prior Axl promises in reference to CD, you'll see the band is actually in a worse position now to release CD than they ever were before.  Hell, he just named the new lead guitarist in May!   There's nothing new about 2006.  If anything, Axl should have just worked to get the album completely done before doing any further tours.  It would have been the right thing to do.

How exactly are they in a worse position? Two bandmembers have said that Bucket's parts will remain on the album.

[LookingThruThisPOV]

If BH didnt quit in 04 (was it) we would have had this album by now

So its Bucket's fault?  Read the NYT article I linked earlier.  The band should have been done with the album even before Bucket arrived!  That's right, blame Slash, Duff, Matt, and Bucket for the delay.  It would never be Axl's fault. 

Bucket put a lot of time and effort into Guns.  Don't blame him for Axl's incompetence.