A Reason for no CITR?

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

What does the rant after Mr. Brownstone on Live Era have anything to do with this?

[VolcomStone]

oh yeah... people say it... all the time here

[-Jack-]

I dont want CITR on Chinese Democracy. I've heard the demo, its cool.. lets move on.

I don't want a song I've already heard taking up space on that disk.. only 13 tracks.. I want at least half of em to be new.

CITR is good, but its nothing special.

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

Your mom's special.


I think we are going to hear Catcher In The Rye on the UK tour, featuring non other than Brain May himself.



(I hope.)

[VolcomStone]

that song's more lame than fdr's legs.  keep it off the cd.  it sounds more like it belongs on one of those "am gold of the 70s" cds than anything else.

[HoldenCaulfield]

'CitR' is a gem. I'd assume the reasons it's not been played is like 'TWAT' - it's too complicated, it definitely requires multiple listens to "get". They'll wait until after the album is out and people have a chance to let the song soak in. I agree, though, that I think there's a pretty good chance that we'll hear the song when the band hits England and Brian May shows up...

[AxlsMainMan]

'CitR' is a gem. I'd assume the reasons it's not been played is like 'TWAT' - it's too complicated, it definitely requires multiple listens to "get". They'll wait until after the album is out and people have a chance to let the song soak in. I agree, though, that I think there's a pretty good chance that we'll hear the song when the band hits England and Brian May shows up...

I completely agree with you, when you say CITR is a gem, although I think if we were destined to hear the song live, we would have by now, Brian May or no Brian May..

I originally didn't really find any appeal in CITR, but now it's an absolutely extraordinary track in my opinion, whereas the demo version really makes it come across as a disjointed, UYI-era masterpiece, I think the final version will definately be a Queen-style epic

It's really hard to digest, but trust me once it clicks with you, it's almost as catchy as Better.

[Smoking Guns]

I still don't get what is so great about this song... it almost puts me to sleep....  His voice is very consistent through out the song....  Is that bad?  i don't know, but it loses me, then I have to try to get back into it...  Just my observation..

[RichardNixon]

CITR is one of the best songs GN'R has ever released. If you don't "get it" that's your loss. But there is always Motley Crue if you think CITR is too "boring."

[Smoking Guns]

Richard, GNR has not released this song.....

If they have, it is more along the lines of a tame "Breakdown," not an "Estranged," "Coma," or "Sweet Child O'Mine" calibur song...

But what do I know..

[AxlsMainMan]

Richard, GNR has not released this song.....

If they have, it is more along the lines of a tame "Breakdown," not an "Estranged," "Coma," or "Sweet Child O'Mine" calibur song...

But what do I know..

It's very close to Breakdown in my opinion...definately way poppier than Estranged or Coma...

The Na,Na,Na's will grow on you after awhile...they have too

[VolcomStone]

i think the song is boring.  "twat" and "better" grew on me, but this one has not.  i agree it has some catchy parts, but it reminds me too much of something you'd hear on the radio 25 years ago.  call it what you will... maybe i'm not "getting it".  there is a lot more music out there i'd rather listen to... so why waste my time trying to "get" a song that i will probably never have a decent version of?  if they include it on the cd, then i will give it a few more tries.  but until then... no thanks.

[oldgunsfan]

Richard, GNR has not released this song.....

If they have, it is more along the lines of a tame "Breakdown," not an "Estranged," "Coma," or "Sweet Child O'Mine" calibur song...

But what do I know..

It's very close to Breakdown in my opinion...definately way poppier than Estranged or Coma...

The Na,Na,Na's will grow on you after awhile...they have too

personally breakdown, estrabnged and coma are 10xs better than CITR....but different strokes for different folks......the song doesn't do it for me

[AxlsMainMan]

Sound quality wise, you may have a point, however I still think CITR has the potential to be one of Gn'R's biggest hits if it ever make's it's way on to an album.

[EFISH]

I agree axlsmainman.

i've liked it from the start. i totally understand the message axl is giving and man i just love the song, i hope and have a good feeling it will be on CD and if it does i bet itll be one of the best songs on there.

[AxlsMainMan]

I agree axlsmainman.

i've liked it from the start. i totally understand the message axl is giving and man i just love the song, i hope and have a good feeling it will be on CD and if it does i bet itll be one of the best songs on there.

Who knows what music styles or influences will be apparent on the 32 songs that Gn'R are working on, but as far as the back catalogue goes, Id say CITR is easily the most "pop-ish" track we've heard so far...

Definately amongst Don't Cry, or So Fine as a genuine "soft-rock" effort

[Neemo]

Definately amongst Don't Cry, or So Fine as a genuine "soft-rock" effort

Better than So Fine but not nearly as good as Don't Cry...I don't hate CITR i just think it sounds dated but it prolly is...who knows what it sounds like now

[codenameninja]

there's 2 things i dislike about the CITR. 1.it's too slow and a bit boring and 2.the fx on the vocals sound like an alien is performing the song. I might like the song more if it were just sung without the addition of fx.

a really cool video could help the song out to. Some songs work better when played with pictures, just like movies do for example.

[EFISH]

The fact that it probally is dated, makes me question whether it will be on CD or not. But, it did leak very recently so that means it porbally wasnt just an old song and was probally still in question about CD, and i'm sure the final version of this song, will be much improved and totally rock.

[Tomorrows]

For what its worth - Im a long time fan and CITR was the first of the leaks to click with me. In fact, it was the only one I liked for a while.