boring solos, long breaks, bad press and audience running away

[DeN]

1) the solos proves guns are good musicians, and give the opportuny to each member to express his own feelings
2) it introduces them to people who never heard about them.
3) if people get bored by the jams and solos, stay at home, buy a fucking greatest hits or a karaoke DVD.
4) don't complain the gigs are too long. it's stupid to pray to see less.

i want a 4 hours show next time in paris, if u ask me.
and i don't care if there's 12 solos in the 4 hours.

[Bravefish]

It makes sense on so many counts as well as the above it gives the crowd time to calm down too cause being at the front of WTTJ ISE and brownstone you can feel a little tired lol!!!

Fish

[Ines_rocks!]

lol I kno what u mean... when I was in RiR the same thing happened, I started seeing so many ppl leaving during the solos... They gotta think of another way... but then, would u prefer to have a shorter show? dunno

[Bravefish]

I think the solos are good but they need to tighten them up, a lot of people know what they are going to get Im not saying a new solo every show that would be impossible just change it around, lead into a song, different solos etc.

fish

[noonespecial]

What does the poster mean by breaks--do they take intermissions? Or that mean there's a lot of pause between each song? What? Just curious. ?
Personally. I lovvve guitar solos so I don't think that if I ever choose to see this new band that would make if boring for me ...I really like Richard's guitar work when he was backing Stinson's solo tour
(although I'm not laying any live money out until there is a new CD-2 or 3 leaked tunes-which I haven't bothered to hunt for-does not warrant shelling out concert ticket money...but that's just me)

[Bravefish]

How bout dropping a rob solo and changing the order of ISE and before that we get a Stinson solo

Fish

[Lowrlder54]

Maybe he needs to long breaks to catch his breath? You know he is in his 40's.... Id rather see an Axl that can carry a tune, then an axl thats collasping on stage.

[odd1]

It broke my heart to se so many people leave spektrum arena in Oslo during Robins last solo before Paradise City

[Satapher]

worst topic EVER!!!

[odd1]

worst topic EVER!!!

Why do you waste your time answering then?

[CVBTank]

Mick Jaeger is in his 60s, and the Stones manage to find better ways to maintain the flow of the show and Mick's abilities.

[whiny]

by break i mean "pause";

i don't think that this is the worst topic ever, for i suppose it's about the major flaw of this current tour; (despite the fact that it's a greatest hit tour disguised as chinese democracy-tour...)

[Origen]

1) the solos proves guns are good musicians, and give the opportuny to each member to express his own feelings

The solos do anythink but that especially Fincks, he gets more abuse for playing his solos then not playing them.

3) if people get bored by the jams and solos, stay at home, buy a fucking greatest hits or a karaoke DVD

Oh please stop crying about it, people pay to see Guns N Roses, if they don't like some part of the show that they payed to see them let them complain.

[Bravefish]

Mick Jaeger is in his 60s, and the Stones manage to find better ways to maintain the flow of the show and Mick's abilities.

Good point, i dont get the age thing, think of Tyler, Jagger (who has decreased but still up for it) etc

Fish

[whiny]

1) the solos proves guns are good musicians, and give the opportuny to each member to express his own feelings

The solos do anythink but that especially Fincks, he gets more abuse for playing his solos then not playing them.

that's true: as much as i like finck a s a guitarist, i have to admit that people don't respond too well to his solos: it's not what they are expecting from a "rock" guitarist: the fact that finck is not showing off with his techniques (skills) makes people think he might not be a good guitar player, which is not true; but true is that his solo-solos don't really make sense in a rock show context... his solos during the songs (with band) are in fact "better"...

[14 Yrs Of Silence]

I enjoy the solos, I don't think they are too long nor are there too many. ?I love the fact they we get to see each member in the spotlight and to see each of their unique styles. ?Those of you that are bored, have you ever been to a concert in which a band likes to jam and extends a 5 minute song into 12 minutes? ?I enjoy the music as much as the singing, so for me it makes a more complete show.

[estranged2006]

they are boring. axl should wear his oxygen air mask near the stage so he dont have to go back far to get the air!

[BKinNYC]

I HATE the solos, but I think that I wouldn't even hate them as much if they were broken up better. ?Look at some of the setlists. ?It's one song, then a solo, then a song, then a solo.

Axl needs to play more songs in-between solos. ?I understand that he needs the rest, but the solos kill the momentum. ?I've said it before: ?People who "love" the solos are in the minority at the shows. ?

I do agree with the other posters who said that back in '92 they were boring too. ?But those were placed much better. ?I'd rather have one or two LONG solos, then a bunch of short ones.

[Gargh!]

Solos are needed IMO they give the rest of the band a time to shine when the spotlight is on AXL.

This incarnation of Guns is really the Axl Rose show, I don't think that's uppermost in his mind.

I understand that Axl isn't getting any younger, but compare the way he does things to, for example DragonForce.  Granted they are all younger, but they run and jump around all the time.  They break the set up with a keyboard solo which usually runs into a soling duel - this never really lasts longer than five minutes, then they're on to play again.  If Axl's running out of energy can they not just play a couple of ballads in quick succession?

[anythinggoes]

by break i mean "pause";

i don't think that this is the worst topic ever, for i suppose it's about the major flaw of this current tour; (despite the fact that it's a greatest hit tour disguised as chinese democracy-tour...)

Greatest hits??? the songs played are mainly from Appetite RQ OYGM My Michelle were never released as singles

2 From Lies UTLH Patience

4 From Illusion + and an Instrumental YCBM November Rain LALD And KOHD last two covers and KOHD was played from early days

and then 5 from Chinese an Album not yet released

i would not call it greatest hits just some cool kick ass GNR