this has really been bugging me-lack of talks about cd in europe

[Scabbie]

don't you think that playing two of the 'new' songs as encores is a kinda subtle way of pushing the album? you can see him watching the audience response more closely than you imagine when they play these songs

me thinks Axl is simply trying to familiarise the audience with some of the new material before announcing a release date. Concert attendees will instantly recognise some of the song names and that will give them some confidence to part with their hard earned cash.

[HungerForChaos]

don't you think that playing two of the 'new' songs as encores is a kinda subtle way of pushing the album? you can see him watching the audience response more closely than you imagine when they play these songs

me thinks Axl is simply trying to familiarise the audience with some of the new material before announcing a release date. Concert attendees will instantly recognise some of the song names and that will give them some confidence to part with their hard earned cash.

You would think he would try to familiarise them with new material by releasing an album and touring for the album..

[Scabbie]

don't you think that playing two of the 'new' songs as encores is a kinda subtle way of pushing the album? you can see him watching the audience response more closely than you imagine when they play these songs

me thinks Axl is simply trying to familiarise the audience with some of the new material before announcing a release date. Concert attendees will instantly recognise some of the song names and that will give them some confidence to part with their hard earned cash.

You would think he would try to familiarise them with new material by releasing an album and touring for the album..

Yeah but I'm trying to find some logic in the craziness

Seriously if GNR had released an album a few months ago, I think many people might have took one look and put it down again...now if they can say 'oh, that was that leak my mate was playing' or 'I remember that one from (europe gig)', it may help to kickstart the albums sales

[Judge Dredd]

A lot of the shows GN'R are playing right now are festivals. So whilst they are getting a lot of Guns fans, not all the crowd are specifically there to see GN'R.

However, with the UK tour coming up shortly, I would not be surprised to hear something there.

My rationale:-

In 2002 at the Leeds festival, Axl didn't really discuss the album. At the GN'R show at Docklands a couple of days later he was talking about three albums and a bonus disc with extra songs, etc...

As for promotion, Evanescence and Iron Maiden have albums out in September and October, and we have had tracklistings, release dates etc.

If the album is in line for an October/November release, I doubt it will be too long before we hear something.

[Voodoochild]

I think the UK tour will be to test new songs (not newer songs) before the comeback to NY to start the final details of the album (mix, artwork, starting to do interviews, etc).

I mean, it's just whishful thinkin', but I wouldn't be surprised if they'll play all the new songs (CD, Madagascar, Blues, Rhiad, TWAT, Better and IRS) on the set in this UK tour. Then, in august, they will start to promote the album.

[mikegiuliana]

I think a cool move would be to say this is from our new album cd, kind of like the illusions.. We still aren't 100 sure what is on or off.. I remember B sides last time around

[yupyup]

The 2002 tour was called the chinese democracy tour.

Has this tour been named? I ask because this tour may have nothing to do with the album.


They are playing new songs live, 9 or 10 since 2002, that's alot of songs considering they have 26 completely recorded. We actually have a good idea of what the albums will be like, especially if those songs all make it on to the first record. the leaks and live stuff  have also made it to a much wider audience than the gnr hardcore fans. In the internet age it's naive to think only hardcore fans have found the new songs both live and demo. Alot of kids who like the old stuff are probably downloading the new.


with that many songs exposed, live and demo in pretty good quality why they aren't promoting an album right now. We'll see through the summer, but big albums do in sept are already being talked up by labels, single and release dates being named. GNR starts playing america in Sept.