For those of you who are religious

[Sakib]

I believe in Islam because everything i've read makes sense from any interpretations. Of course there are debates about some things such as "was Adn (Eden) in paradise or was it of the earth?" but they can be worked around easily if you just give a lot of thought to it because you have to read the words VERY carefully. I interpret the Qur'aan both metaphorically and literally and to be honest they both make as much sense as each other. And i do know Allah exists but this life is a test from Allah. Indeed he knows the outcome of our lives. (Allah isnt a he or a she but he is used because its impolite in english to say it. In eastern languages such as arabic or urdu there is a polite gender term for god). However, he may let us live because you can't be convicted of a crime you haven't yet committed or been involved in committing.Allah knows best.

I don't understand why you guys think Allah is unmerciful and most unkind when in fact, all Allah wants is for us to do is to ask for forgiveness and ask him in times of great need and thank him in good times. He wants to see how lazy we are in praising him and asking him. I mean, its great islam is because you get rewards for doing compulsory things such as praying five times a day, even though Allah has bestowed this law upon us it's still rewarding. Every good deed is equivalent to 10 good deeds yet 1 negative deed is equal to 1. The reason why all these cruel people are alive it to see for them to be tested, to see if they'll come to the correct path of islam and for the sufferers to be tested to have strong belief in Allah. Life is one big test and never think for one moment that the battle is over because it isn't and Allah has mentioned in the glorious qur'aan in various verses i'll try to find, that never think for a moment the test is over because it's never over and the tests will come in various forms.

[-MEGAMANIAC-]

My question is Why Do you believe what you believe in? Why are you pagan? WHY are you Christian or Jew or Muslim?

I dont intend to offend but to understand. Is there anything about your religion that specifically strikes you? Anything you question?

Faith!
Catholic, that's the way I was raised.
Btw, your question does not offend me in the least!

[Locomotive98]

I havnt seen one response on here that says 'Axl is God' and that surprises me.

Which is good, because hes not.

[AXL 20]

Axl is god

j/k

Im atheist. I think ALL religions are a heaping load of shit. In the bible, when is the last time you met an arab named john?

I think its brainwashing, especially the Jehova's Witnesses.

just my opinion

[Backslash]

I just try to be a good person is all.  I live by my own morals and values.  Agnosticism rocks.

[Neemo]

I'm not religious either...born roman catholic though...

If any religion I prolly believe in the pagan religions the most...you know those snakes and rats that St. Patrick drove out of Ireland.

but I'm hardly a devout worshipper of anything

[Sakib]

Axl is god

j/k

Im atheist. I think ALL religions are a heaping load of shit. In the bible, when is the last time you met an arab named john?

I think its brainwashing, especially the Jehova's Witnesses.

just my opinion

The Arabic equivalent of John is Yahya

[godiva]

the cat?

Sorry, strange mood. Keep talking.

[zakas80]

"I worship the sun but I pray to Joe Pesci"

[ClintroN]

a few quotes for  you christians.....................


    *

      "Fundamentalist Christianity. Fascinating. These people actually believe the world is 12 thousand years old. Swear to God! Based on what? I asked them. 'Well, we looked at all the people in the Bible, and we added them up all the way back to Adam and Eve, their ages ? 12 thousand years.' Well, how fucking scientific! Okay. I didn't know that you'd gone to so much trouble there. That's good.

      You believe the world's 12 thousand years old? 'That's right.' Okay, I got one word to ask you. A one word question. Ready? 'Uh-uh.' Dinosaurs.

      You know, the world's 12 thousand years old and dinosaurs existed, and they existed in that time ... you'd think it would have been mentioned in the fucking Bible at some point. 'And lo, Jesus and the disciples walked to Nazareth. But the trail was blocked by a giant brontosaurus ... with a splinter in his paw. And O, the disciples did run a-shrieking: "What a big fucking lizard, Lord!" But Jesus was unafraid, and he took the splinter from the brontosaurus's paw, and the big lizard became his friend. And Jesus sent him to Scotland where he lived in a loch for O, so many years, inviting thousands of American tourists to bring their fat fucking families and their fat dollar bills. And O, Scotland did praise the Lord: "Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Lord. Thank you, Lord."'"


"A lot of Christians wear crosses around their necks. You think when Jesus comes back, he ever wants to see a fucking cross?



Bill Hicks


the bible............what a load of shit...................(a quote from me...   )

[Locomotive98]

Heh heh.... good old Bill.

'Ever notice how creationists look really unevolved?' - They say 'I believe God created me in one day' 'Well, looks like he rushed it'!!

RIP Mr Hicks

[Sakib]

For all you know it could have been one day literally. But the words used to describe creation of the world and things in qur'aan is "Yawm" (arabic for day). This word is used in the metaphorical sense of day as well. Anyway someone posted on another thread that there was a skeleton of an "advanced human" i think the poster was Jessica aka Madmoiselle or someone. Anyway humans could have really MUTATED not EVOLVED within their own genus. The qur'aan doesnt tell you every detail about every messenger of every creation simply because Allah obviously didnt think it necessary for us to know as such. but obviously allah can answer that one better. Torah says Adam (peace with him) was 913 (i think) years old and hadith tell he was about 1000. However, the torah could be referring to time on earth in lunar years. The length of days differed in Adn (Eden) than it did on earth. On the day of Judgement one day will=50000 days (if i remeber correctly) and also there are solar years and lunar years that vary in length. Humans have really changed in size and strength. If you see the swords of the era of prophet muhammad (peace and blessing of allah be with him) they were bloody huge and heavy and i cant think of a man who would be able to lift it. They are the size of a 2-3 seater couch and 2-3cm thick. And one sword of Khalid bin Al-Waleed has diamond encrusted in them. So humans have changed and evidence suggests they were way bigger, musclier and stronger than humans today. Also they cant have been fat because they didnt have a chance of eating unhealthy mcdonalds and what not. i can write an essay

[2112]

 Protestantic christian.
could have been a buddhist though.


i do not like when religion becomes too ortodox.

and i make fun of it whenever i can.

[Doc Emmett Brown]

For all you know it could have been one day literally. But the words used to describe creation of the world and things in qur'aan is "Yawm" (arabic for day). This word is used in the metaphorical sense of day as well. Anyway someone posted on another thread that there was a skeleton of an "advanced human" i think the poster was Jessica aka Madmoiselle or someone. Anyway humans could have really MUTATED not EVOLVED within their own genus. The qur'aan doesnt tell you every detail about every messenger of every creation simply because Allah obviously didnt think it necessary for us to know as such. but obviously allah can answer that one better. Torah says Adam (peace with him) was 913 (i think) years old and hadith tell he was about 1000. However, the torah could be referring to time on earth in lunar years. The length of days differed in Adn (Eden) than it did on earth. On the day of Judgement one day will=50000 days (if i remeber correctly) and also there are solar years and lunar years that vary in length. Humans have really changed in size and strength. If you see the swords of the era of prophet muhammad (peace and blessing of allah be with him) they were bloody huge and heavy and i cant think of a man who would be able to lift it. They are the size of a 2-3 seater couch and 2-3cm thick. And one sword of Khalid bin Al-Waleed has diamond encrusted in them. So humans have changed and evidence suggests they were way bigger, musclier and stronger than humans today. Also they cant have been fat because they didnt have a chance of eating unhealthy mcdonalds and what not. i can write an essay

why do you make a distinction between evolution and mutations over time?

anyway... your topic is about being religious, not arguing about evolution.  I'm happy for you that someone's sword had diamonds on it, but that wont change my mind about being religious.   I like to believe in the concept of a benevolent God because it is psychologically comforting to me.  However, I dont let that interfere with me asking questions and trying to find answers about the world. 

[Izzy]

Indeed he knows the outcome of our lives. However, he may let us live because you can't be convicted of a crime you haven't yet committed or been involved in committing.Allah knows best.

Thats easily the stupidest thing i've ever read

God knows how things will work out before u've even been created - then punishes you for a ''crime'' you had no possibility of avoiding

If you were destined to comit that crime - programmed from the outset to do it - then a murder has no moral responsibility for there crime, its after all not there fault - they were effectively placed on earth to do that one deed

U really believe that? R u really that stupid?

U give Allah less credit than those of other religions!

[the dirt]

If you were destined to comit that crime - programmed from the outset to do it - then a murder has no moral responsibility for there crime, its after all not there fault - they were effectively placed on earth to do that one deed

And other deeds, to be fair.

[Lucky]

My question is Why Do you believe what you believe in? Why are you pagan? WHY are you Christian or Jew or Muslim?

I dont intend to offend but to understand. Is there anything about your religion that specifically strikes you? Anything you question?

its kinda hard no to be offended when you start your post by caling us pagan...


and now to adress the rest of the "philosphers" here. why are you even trying to explain why you chose to believe what you believe in?!


it's like explaining to a blind person, the diference among colors,
or explaining to a deaf person the concept of music,...



I claim to be a Catholic, but actually, I'm an agnostic who's beliefes happen to be similar to the of the Catholic religion.

[Mr. Dick Purple]

Im christian catholic and I live my life the best I can and the best for everyone else, if someone slaps me well dont think I will turn the other cheek I'll fucking kill you! 
Anyway I think people looks too much into these stuff, just live your life the best you can weather you believe in something or not.
Dont start asking foolish question about if God created this and stuff thats just a wasted of time, just live man. 

[Sakib]

Indeed he knows the outcome of our lives. However, he may let us live because you can't be convicted of a crime you haven't yet committed or been involved in committing.Allah knows best.

Thats easily the stupidest thing i've ever read

God knows how things will work out before u've even been created - then punishes you for a ''crime'' you had no possibility of avoiding

If you were destined to comit that crime - programmed from the outset to do it - then a murder has no moral responsibility for there crime, its after all not there fault - they were effectively placed on earth to do that one deed

U really believe that? R u really that stupid?

U give Allah less credit than those of other religions!

I think you're ignorant because of Al-Lauh and Al-Mahfuz contains every man woman and living things destinyl all preordained.

EDIT: To be honest i see you give allah less credit. He's the "All Knower" of everything, that's one of the 99 names of allah

[godiva]

Let's just agree to disagree okay?  Pft.