MLB - Discuss Yesterday's action or anything you want

[COMAMOTIVE]

Those who watch Jeter everyday know that this guy is the MVP period

[pilferk]

Those who watch Jeter everyday know that this guy is the MVP period

If the season ended today...I'd agree with you (and, obviously, I do watch Jeter every day).

But, for me, he's not a run away choice.

So I'll reserve my "vote" (much value as it has...) til the end of the season.

Oh, and on Jeter....here's just one MORE reason to consider him for MVP, IMHO:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2584168

That's class, right there.  And pretty much the way Ortiz SHOULD have responded.

[GeorgeSteele]

God Bless America - Mets are division champs!   What a year it's been... let's hope they keep it going in the playoffs.



 

[Cornell]

And the Yankee's magic number is down to ONE! 

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

INCREDIBLE comeback by the Dodgers last night!  4 consecutive home runs, capped off by Nomar's game winner in the 11th.

[GeorgeSteele]

INCREDIBLE comeback by the Dodgers last night!? 4 consecutive home runs, capped off by Nomar's game winner in the 11th.

That was incredible.  4 straight HRs to tie a game in the 9th has never happened before.

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

And the last two came off Trevor Hoffman.  He's like the bogeyman in L.A..

Incredible win, but in true Dodger fashion, they drop a game against the Pirates the next day. 

[sandman]

phils are tied for the wild card lead!! they are really playing well right now. if they make the playoffs, they will be a dangerous team to face. should we end up tied with the dodgers, a one game playoff would be played in philly.

i know abreu is doing well with the yanks (since he doesn't have to be a leader), but the phils are 33-19 since he last played for them. we're such a better team without him.

the twins are another fun team to watch. this could be their year. they are 62-27 since mid-june (a .697 winning percentage).   

[oldgunsfan]

Wow...persecution complex much?

No one "was trying to embarass you"...nor did there need to be any "2 second Google Search".

It's old news (the Daily News article you referenced in the original post does not say "per year", fyi, it says for the '04-'05 season).? The team pushed the story back in December of '05. I read it (at the time) and laughed because most baseball financialists will tell you that for the Yanks (and consequently Forbes using the Yanks numbers) to arrive at the number they did? there must have been some "creative" accounting. Even MLB, at the time, scoffed at the numbers being thrown around.? They listed their average ticket price at $27 for that season.? $27?? You show me where I can buy a large block of $27 Yankees tickets, box office or otherwise.? ?They also valued their YES games contract at 60 million per season (that's the charge "on the books" that the Yanks get from YES for their games).? The value is, according to most financialists, easily double to triple that.? And since all the YES revenue goes into the Yankees ownership group anyway.....that helps show a loss on the team side, but "gives back" to the Yanks ownership on the back end.? There were a bunch of citations of stuff like that.

Cashmans comments might be new, but the story's not.? New comments on old story = old news.?

If you read the entire Bloomberg article you just linked too, I bet you can figure out exactly why Cashmans making the comments he is at the time he is.? Just read between the lines.? It's some of the same reasons they pushed the story back in December.

So, you want comments on whether this is something to be concerned about.? There they were and here's some more: The sky is not falling.? The Yanks are not going bankrupt.? And there's not going to be a wholesale firesale of talent any time soon.

Enough already with the 'wows', Potsie Webber.? I only feel persecuted while I'm suffering through watching one of Bobby Abreu's 1/2-hour at-bats; next time I'll use that time to research whether only ticket revenue is included in total revenues (either then or the next time Giambi steps out of the batter's box - have fun watching those 5-hour playoff games!).? Seriously, though, I don't know how either one of us could prove that conclusively one way or the other - the Yankees are not a publicly-traded company, so they have no public financial reporting obligation.? With that said, I can't see how MLB would let any team get away with "creative accounting" given that there's a revenue sharing requirement.? Wouldn't their numbers be subject to an MLB audit?

Also, I doubt that Cashman is whining about losing money in order to get public financing for the stadium (if that's what you were suggesting).? That ship has sailed; the new stadium is being financed through private bonds.? Speaking of which, if you're so confident in the team's finances, why not invest the family nest egg in Uncle George's bonds?

Like I said, the full interview airs this weekend; unless Cashman prescreens all questions a la Axl Rose, I would think he'll be asked about whether he's factoring in all sources of revenue.? Let's see what he has to say.

Revenue sharing has nothing to do with how much money they make but how much there payroll is over a certain $ threshhold.  But obviously the yankees are very generous contributors

But seriously, don't throw a pitty bparty for the Yankees and all there $$ losses.  When yo average 50,000+ /game with average ticket prices at about 24/per; plus the TV Network, there not going broke

Save the sympathy for the Red Sox

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

Or Tampa Bay! 

NL Wild Card and West races are soooo close!

[Krispy Kreme]

Let's hope Buddy Bell recovers  from throat surgery and the growths on his tonsil do not prove to be cancerous.

[GeorgeSteele]

Revenue sharing has nothing to do with how much money they make but how much there payroll is over a certain $ threshhold.?

Wrong, that's the luxury tax.  Revenue sharing, believe it or not, is based on revenue.

[pilferk]

Revenue sharing has nothing to do with how much money they make but how much there payroll is over a certain $ threshhold.?

Wrong, that's the luxury tax.? Revenue sharing, believe it or not, is based on revenue.

Exactly.? You beat me to it (obviously).

Revenue sharing and luxury tax are two different entities.? Revenue sharing is MLB's "program" to help small market teams, and low earning teams, remain competitive.? The teams at the top of the revenue earning "list" share with those at the bottom.? The Yankees earn the most (close to 300 million) and pay the most (approx 60 - 70 million).? One of the perks for the Yanks building a new ballpark is that MLB allows teams to count the money spent on a new park toward their contribution to revenue sharing.

[sandman]

it looks like the yanks will be playing the wild card winner.

i haven't been following the AL very closely. who would be the better matchup for the yanks - the tigers or the twins? for all the yankee fans in here....who would you rather play?

i'm assuming the answer is the tigers, but i don't know enough about all the matchups.

[Layne Staley's Sunglasses]

Actually Sandman, if I was a Yankee fan, I'd be praying to have the Twins make the post-season.  The Yankees have done a number on Minnesota in the playoffs the last couple of years.

[sandman]

Actually Sandman, if I was a Yankee fan, I'd be praying to have the Twins make the post-season.? The Yankees have done a number on Minnesota in the playoffs the last couple of years.

good point. beyond santana, the twins SP is questionable. still, facing him 2 out of 5 games seems dangerous to me.

will the yanks go with wang to open the series?

i think yanks - twins would be a high scoring series.

[pilferk]

Actually Sandman, if I was a Yankee fan, I'd be praying to have the Twins make the post-season.? The Yankees have done a number on Minnesota in the playoffs the last couple of years.

good point. beyond santana, the twins SP is questionable. still, facing him 2 out of 5 games seems dangerous to me.

will the yanks go with wang to open the series?

i think yanks - twins would be a high scoring series.

You're assuming (with Santana) that there would be a game 5, or that, faced with elimination, the Twins would pitch him in game 4.....

In addition, Santana, while having an unbelievable year, proved in ione of his last starts he's not untouchable.  And other than Santana, with Liriano out, they're SP is pretty unremarkable. 

Personally, I'd rather face Detroit in the ALDS, but only because they've been slumping in the 2nd half and, quite frankly, in a short series I think they'd match up better and the Yanks would have a better chance of ending it quickly.

I'd also rather face the Twins in the ALCS, with a long series, because the Twins bullpen is not particularly deep, and, unlike most of the rest of the AL, in games the Yanks have played the Twins, they seem to have done a good job at knocking around that pullpen.   Oakland is always the great mystery and anytime you can, as an East Coast team, avoid the trip to the West Coast in the playoffs it's a good thing.

[sandman]

if the twins are down 2-1, there's no doubt they will use santana in game 4. so the assumption i was making is that the twins will win either 1 or 2 of the first 3 games. and santana has shut down the yanks a number of times in his career.

but aside from the matchups, the twins have been the hottest team in the league over the last few months.

and i agree that the tigers are ripe for a first round exit.

[pilferk]

if the twins are down 2-1, there's no doubt they will use santana in game 4. so the assumption i was making is that the twins will win either 1 or 2 of the first 3 games. and santana has shut down the yanks a number of times in his career.

but aside from the matchups, the twins have been the hottest team in the league over the last few months.

and i agree that the tigers are ripe for a first round exit.

What you said you assumed is what I meant I assumed you assumed.

The problem with pitching Santana in game 4 of the ALDS is...assuming he's the game 1 starter (and you'd have to), you're talking about pitching him on very short rest.? The last time he did that, in '04 against the Yanks...it was effective...but the bullpen blew it.? And there in lies the problem:? If Santana pitches on short rest, you're probably only going to get 5 innings out of him in game 4.? And then you have to rely on a bullpen that the Yankees haven't had much trouble hitting this year.

It's not a great position, no matter what decision you make as a manager, to be in.? Do you go with a less effective starter, and possibly bring Santana out of the bullpen?? Do you start Santana but have another Starter ready to go to pitch in the late innings to try to hold the Yanks down?

All that, of course, assuming the Yanks are up 2-1.....which, in short series against a hot team, especially with what the Yanks SP has been this past week, is certainly not a sure bet.

[Eclipsed107]

noooooooo the Phillies just lost a tough one in Washington, now falling 2 back in the Wild Card with only 3 games left to go.

Looks like another year without playoff baseball in the Philadelphia area. ::sigh::