Why so many haters?

[chrosken]

I was watching few videos from Budafest and all I can say is "wow".? The band sounds great, axl sounds better than ever and look good as well.? What I don't understand is why there are still so many haters out there?

There are still people compalining about his looks (being fat, clothes makes him lokk fat, etc) , his voice, the setlist, etc... there is always something that people complain about.? I don't have all the quotes of post but I sure do read a lot of complaints.? I feel so sorry for Axl.? He just could not win the hearts of everyone.

I hope everyone would be just happy because Axl and GN'R is back.

[Steel_Angel]

because they want slash back, thats why.. 

[da_pope]

Cause this ain't GN'R.

[IndiannaRose]

I never understand the 'Axl is fat' comments....He looks just as toned as he was in his UYI days. I really don't understand why people still talk about the 'fat' thing. It's really stupid. It's like trying to convince people that Slash is an Asian female with 6 nipples.

[Bill 213]

I think it's partly in fact that Axl stayed away for so long that people eventually began picking him apart and making him a joke. ?Then he comes back to a less than stellar comeback and that didn't help. ?Axl's pretty much standing on his last leg this time around and it's proven to be extremely hard for him to win everyone over. ?I think he's doing a great job by doing the shows and playing them all regardless of the sound troubles and such. ?I think he's 100% hellbent on doing it right this time. ?However certain people just ain't gonna let him do it, the diehard old fans, the idiots who watch VH1 shows about Rock Star's hair and think that that type of thing is funny, etc. ?Regardless there's always gonna be a stone in the road, but I think he'll overcome that bullshit. ?The funny thing is his old bandmembers want him to be succesful and are pushing for him, and people are still like DUR DUR HES GOT A JERSEY ON. ?

[Mattattack]

People want Chinese Democracy!! I think that once the album is released people will finally be able to accept the new band.

[RichardNixon]

This is to be expected, the new band needs to be broken in. You can't just disappear for over ten years, come back with a different band and expect  everyone to accept the situation.

The new band needs to tour, tour, tour, and release an album. After a while people will come around.

Axl just needs to keep his eyes on the prize.

[Chief]

people just can't get over this isn't the same band i guess, even though its been years and years and they should mostly know what kind of thing to expect.  oh well, its going to be VERY interesting when they start putting out records...

[Steel_Angel]

Cause this ain't GN'R.

yeah it is 

[Tomorrows]

Because they are turds. Axl will never win over the detractors, but hes got a massive fan base of people who love him.

Fuck that haters 

[ShotgunBlues1978]

Cause this ain't GN'R.

What is it then?  Pretty sure the show I went to had Guns N Roses printed on the ticket.  And I'm pretty sure they were playing Guns N Roses songs.  You people really need to get over it, Axl did not quit the band and owns the rights to the name, if he wants to use it that's his choice.  You don't seem to understand that you will never have a chance to hear Guns N Roses songs live with Axl Rose singing if the new band doesn't play them, be grateful for what you have.  What's the alternative?  Never hearing Guns N Roses with Axl singing the songs ever again

[Naupis]

I don't think there would be so many haters, nor would people even care about the whole band name issue were Appetite not such a legendary album at this point. The album has alot of symbolic meaning to a generation, and when there is such emotion attached to something people have a hard to just letting it go. That album made such a huge impact on rock and music in general that it is hard to make wholesale changes in the line-up without people getting all hot and bothered considering all of the original members are still alive. So we can blame it all on Appetite.

Axl did not quit the band and owns the rights to the name, if he wants to use it that's his choice.

In the same vein by making that choice it is hard to then get annoyed that it isn't universally accepted by the general public. You have to take the good and the bad associated with that name if you want to use it.

[kockstar999]

Iam not a hater... I do complain tho... not about the band or the members.. I like em all...  I complain about the setlist tho.. and the only reason i complain about it is because i expected more from GnR and Axl when they came back this time than the same ol setlist and nothing new... Im just dissapointed with it all.... all the talk about it being a new band and all but its not... Its a cover band still playing the same old songs with a few not great but not bad originals in there that im not sure we were supposed to hear anyways.... Steven Adler did the same thing and called it Adlers Appettite..  At least VR stay away from that album for the most part......

with all the firepower the band has its very dissapointing to hear the same old songs all the time...

i need an album or two from the new guys before im happy.

[monkeychow]

I think its a few factors. But mostly a combination of the fact that the old band was legendary and that we have no CD yet.

I mean the old band, in particular Slash but also Duff and the rest to an extent.., while they are now long gone, were also iconic members of the band. Like it was about Axl doing the snake dance, slash in the tophat, you know it wasn't a one man show. It was the vibe you get of seeing a lot of people with overwhelming chrisma in the one place at the same time.


People remember that - so its like - if your going to tour under the same name - and without putting new material out there first - and then play like 95% classic hits - then its like to a casual fan or non-fan what have you got? 1 famous guy out of 5 and a coverband.

Don't get me wrong I REALLY LIKE THE NEW BAND too - I LOVE THE NEW SONGS - so dont bash me for the above - i'm just trying to show how i think it appears to non-GNR obsessives unlike me and most of us.

Like i went to a friend of a friends house to watch the cable hook up of Rio, and he was "so who are these guys - what about slash and co?" - so i'm like explaining that this is the new band , but then he is like "So which of the songs I know is them and which is Slash and that?" - and the answer to that question is that 100% of eveything anyone but us internet fans know is all slash and co.

So i think thats why people get shat off - cos when they find that out they feel like their seeing a fake band. Thats speaking of people that arn't already big fans. But I think the general public knows Sweet Child, Paradice City, Jungle, and like Noverember Rain and maybe 1 or 2 others from the radio you know.

ANYWAY...so i think when CD comes out, then the new band will get a lot more legit. Cos its like when people ask who it is they are seeing on tv, you'll be able to go like "Well..ok...jungle was slash..but yuo know IRS that was all over the radio last year...that solo was played by this dude robin..." or whatever...and people will feel like they are seeing the band connected with the songs.

Anyway...i say again for those that will bash me...i love old GNR and i dig the new material from new gnr. I'm just trying to explain the mentality of why people some people (not me) hate the new gnr. And i think the lack of new material is what causes the lack of legitimacy..as when you play 90% of songs that slash wrote the solos too..then people get upset when slash doesn't play them.

[SLCPUNK]

There were people who hated GnR back in the day too.

So I don't care about now.

Besides half the people who "hate" were not even born when this band came out.......why would I care what they think?

[CD2006]

because they are petty and pathetic losers with nothing better to do with their lives. sad.

[Christos AG]

Cause this ain't GN'R.

And your first memory of "what GNR was", was in 2000? Maybe 1999?

LOL... When you first heard GNR was when the new members got in the band... Now, I'd say that's kinda ironic, isn't it?

[SLCPUNK]

LOL... When you first heard GNR was when the new members got in the band... Now, I'd say that's kinda ironic, isn't it?

haha!

Irony can carry a cruel truth along with it............

[mikegiuliana]

Cause this ain't GN'R.

that basically sums it up, true it's called gnr but the name doesn't make the band..

They broke up a long time ago, anyone can own a name and use it.. Axl is playing tons of classics everyone loves, so that is helping him get through this tour.. Where's slash chants, piss bottle onstage.. I personally find some satisfaction in remaining loyal to the band that sold all those albums and ruled the world.. if axl wasn't fronting this everyone would be crying the blues..

[Bill 213]

Cause this ain't GN'R.

that basically sums it up, true it's called gnr but the name doesn't make the band..

They broke up a long time ago, anyone can own a name and use it.. Axl is playing tons of classics everyone loves, so that is helping him get through this tour.. Where's slash chants, piss bottle onstage.. I personally find some satisfaction in remaining loyal to the band that sold all those albums and ruled the world.. if axl wasn't fronting this everyone would be crying the blues..

Why would you remain loyal to something that the own members didnt?  These classics you talk of (including November Rain, Patience, Coma, Estranged)....weren't these songs that the band members didn't want to play?  Remember Sweet Child O' Mine being a joke and Slash used to hate playing it live?? Remember that stuff?  So what's the point of being loyal to that?  Why not remember it, appreciate it for what it was and move on?  It's like being held up on some long lost love that is gone and ain't coming back.  Move on, get over it....life goes on, people go their seperate ways.  You have two bands now you can enjoy.  These band members did what they felt they had to do.  Before you go blaming Axl for breaking up the band, he wasn't the only one.  They just couldn't work together anymore.  They didn't remain loyal, they moved on. 
If anything you should thank Axl for going out there and playing these songs.  You wouldn't see November Rain, SCOM or Patience being played live ever again.  Everyone acts like Axl is just going out there to abuse the name of GNR for his gain.  Fuck that, he's giving you all the pleasure of hearing these songs and that's something people should learn to appreciate.