Kurt Cobain, sucide or murder?

[Scarlett]

Here's a good read on the topic:

http://www.cobaincase.com/

[D]

Who wrote the suicide note?

He wasnt suicidal?

Did he not try to kill himself a few weeks earlier?

When u inject heroin its not like it wouldve instantly made him unable to do anything.

He couldve shot himself instantly after injecting himself with a lethal dose.


maybe he pulled the trigger with his toe.

[pilferk]

He wasnt suicidal?

Did he not try to kill himself a few weeks earlier?

There's some debate over whether he tried to kill himself in Rome or whether someone slipped him the Ruphy in his drink.  There's no real way to be sure....thus the speculation.

Courney and Dewitt were with him when it happened.  Courtney says she woke up between 3 AM  and 4 AM(there's some other documentation on that, too)....but the ambulance wasn't called until sometime around 6 AM.  That's a bit...."odd"....to say the least.  In addition, Courtney, against doctors orders, ordered him to be transferred from one hospital to another, even though it was possibly dangerous to do so.

Again, she could have just been showing her trademark bad judgement....but it's still interesting, and the pattern, when all the pieces are put together, sure paint her in a pretty poor light, no matter WHICH conclusion you decide to come to.  She was either the "trigger person" (or "hired" one) or she's a dipshit, ho-bag, shrewish banshee who drove Kurt to pull the trigger himself.

Either way, IMHO, she killed him, so.....

[CAFC Nick]

I believe that it was a murder...

...the legend of Cobain lives on

R.I.P Kurt Cobain - 12 years of hurt.

[estranged.1098]

Even if he was suicidal it doesn't mean that's how he died.

[Jessica]

Didb't Kurt have an incurable stomach cancer ?

I thought it was WHY he started to use heroin in the first place, to numb the pain ?

I can't recall how, but i was told he knew it couldn't be cured and knew he had a few years to live and didn't give a shit about anything after a few years but the enduring pain he was going through ?

I would have believed in assisted suicide from his " beloved" wife if he hadn't changed his will at the very last minute.

[DeN]

how do you know it was a cancer ?

[SuperMike]

Give me a f'n break from these mysterious deaths of famous people. They were normal people that died just like everybody else.

[DeN]

Give me a f'n break from these mysterious deaths of famous people. They were normal people that died just like everybody else.

really ? i don't think i'll be murderer as john lennon, or i'll die like hendrix or morrison.
but the real fact is : some anonymous people have mysterious deaths, too.

and kurt's death is *REALLY* weird.

(i always laugh when i read this thing, "giiiiive meeee a breaaaaak",
typicaly american i suppose, is it a new mode in colleges ?) 

[ClintroN]

murder, have a good look at his note, its not a suicide note, its a f'kn retirement letter to fans!!

It's been over 10 years...

Kennedy's death has been unsolved for over 40 years now...

Time to move on dude...somethings just aren't meant to be uncovered.

However in answer to you're question, it was neither murder, nor suicide because Kurt WANTED to die...

To me at least, once you're desire to live has waned, it cant be construed as suicide or murder

thats bullshit dude, just because it wasnt solved doesnt mean it wasnt ment to be solved, WTF

[mikegiuliana]

So sick of hearing about kurt cobain, it's like who cares..

[estranged.1098]

So sick of hearing about kurt cobain, it's like who cares..

Can't you just skip this thread then? 

[mikegiuliana]

no problem just wanted to say that

[Jim]

no problem just wanted to say that

Yeah, but like, totally nobody cared.

I used to see it as murder, I used to think that it probably was, but people will look for conspiracy, cover up or ulterior motive in anything. That said I haven't looked at any of these sites, but since there are enough out there to convince me that Tupac is alive and Paul Mccartney is dead, maybe I'll steer clear.....

But maybe I'll read it later....

Maybe.

[Neemo]

ok i watched the Kurt and Courtney documentary...

I dunno I still have mixed views on the whole thing...coulda been suicide....coulda been murder. I can't picture killing anybody cuz of money but that's just me...weird that Courtney's dad kinda implicates her in it.

Grant is definately conviced...he went bankrupt over this case that is textbook obsessive compulsive right there

and the creepy El Diablo or whatever his name is...his story and death are bizarre. and everyone is scared of courtney

Why is it not in courts? Lack of evidence? prolly, this is just one of the things that we have to rely on the justice system to handle....if it was a possible murder I would think that Kurt's powerful freinds would petition it...like does anyone know what Dave Grohl thinks? or Krist Novaselic? or and of his other famous grunge buddies...or the record label and his manager? I mean the lack of info from these people make me think that it was a suicide...and Nirvana's last shows, kurt was pretty subdued too from what I've seen.

[girlincarwithgnr]

I think it was unintentional suicide. I think Hole drove him to it. I'm not saying she murdered him. I am saying she played a part in it. The more the drugs the more u lose ur mind. And she was a HUGE junkie at the time. She was or had always gone unrecognized, always in the shadows of Kurt, jealous, insane, attention seeking for fame and felt held back. Or so her voices told her. I don't think she's clever enough to pull something off like that AND get away with it. She's too fucked up and retarded.

Not unless she was in the room with him and they were both having a drugged out, I cant it anymore moment with one another. And she acted as if she was comforting him and she was kneeled in front of him saying, please give me the gun baby, i love you. Then she wrapped her hands around his hands which were already on the trigger as if she were going to take it from him gently. Then she pulled it. Wanting him to die so she could have her fame and fortune.




~girl

[GeorgeSteele]

I think it was unintentional suicide. I think Hole drove him to it. I'm not saying she murdered him. I am saying she played a part in it. The more the drugs the more u lose ur mind. And she was a HUGE junkie at the time. She was or had always gone unrecognized, always in the shadows of Kurt, jealous, insane, attention seeking for fame and felt held back. Or so her voices told her. I don't think she's clever enough to pull something off like that AND get away with it. She's too fucked up and retarded.

Not unless she was in the room with him and they were both having a drugged out, I cant it anymore moment with one another. And she acted as if she was comforting him and she was kneeled in front of him saying, please give me the gun baby, i love you. Then she wrapped her hands around his hands which were already on the trigger as if she were going to take it from him gently. Then she pulled it. Wanting him to die so she could have her fame and fortune.




~girl

Your theory sounds a little like the Sid and Nancy story.  Supposedly, they agreed to kill themselves together; she went first and then he changed his mind.

[gnr-4-ever]

suicide

[girlincarwithgnr]

I think it was unintentional suicide. I think Hole drove him to it. I'm not saying she murdered him. I am saying she played a part in it. The more the drugs the more u lose ur mind. And she was a HUGE junkie at the time. She was or had always gone unrecognized, always in the shadows of Kurt, jealous, insane, attention seeking for fame and felt held back. Or so her voices told her. I don't think she's clever enough to pull something off like that AND get away with it. She's too fucked up and retarded.

Not unless she was in the room with him and they were both having a drugged out, I cant it anymore moment with one another. And she acted as if she was comforting him and she was kneeled in front of him saying, please give me the gun baby, i love you. Then she wrapped her hands around his hands which were already on the trigger as if she were going to take it from him gently. Then she pulled it. Wanting him to die so she could have her fame and fortune.




~girl

Your theory sounds a little like the Sid and Nancy story.? Supposedly, they agreed to kill themselves together; she went first and then he changed his mind.

weird huh?

[usedtoloverher]

When asking whether it was murder or not, this question should be asked: Who benefited the most from Kurt Cobain?s death?

The answer is Dave Growl.