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Re: The new KOHD isn't close to as good as the old.
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July 14, 2006, 11:40:24 AM »
i like the song a lot and really like all the versions of the song. i loved the 2002 version the most though. i thought bucket was amazing on it. the 2006 version is good, but when it comes time for the solo in the middle im left feeling like im missing something. im not a big fan of the sing along at the end but ive seen a lot of people at the nyc concerts really enjoy it.
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I like the 2006 version, but my favorite is the 2002 version. Im not a big fan of what was on UYI 2. I like the song though, so whatever version they play its fine.
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July 15, 2006, 09:30:33 PM »
You gotta be kidding me! The version I heard at Hammerstein on May 17 blew away any previous concerts I have been to and the UYI version. I usually go for the heavier songs but this is just a better version of this song.
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Best version
hammersmith london.
sorry guys, couldnt resist.
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July 16, 2006, 12:03:32 AM »
I like the new version better. But KOHD is a song they could do without live. They should heavily consider doing away with it on the setlist and replacing it with Don't Cry
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July 16, 2006, 12:07:18 AM »
I think the 2006 version is a combination of the old and 2002 versions...when illusions came out, i went back and found the dylan version (i was 10 at the time) and thought it sucked...now i love the dylan version and the 2006 gn'r version...the UYI2 version sounds goofy to me now.
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July 16, 2006, 01:27:10 AM »
Personally I like the older version better.? But not all the way into the UYI era.? Someone already said it but the Ritz performance in 88 was the absolute fucking best imo.? Great sound (maybe not technichally, but the rawness), energy, it just blew me away when I seen it aired on MTV.? The thing is with that version, GNR made that song into their own so it never seemed like a cover song, even though everyone knew it was.? They took that song and turned it inside out and put their stamp all over it.? The newer versions 2002 and on seems like a cover because it's more in line with the style that it was originally played, as far as tempo and even sound.
Oh yeah and the "give me some reggae" was cool once!? After that the shit was boring and quite stupid to me!
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July 16, 2006, 01:33:10 AM »
I think they should keep playing it. The crowd likes the sing along and Axl's voice is absolutely amazing during that part.
What I loved about the 2002 version was Bucket's solo. That's probably my second favorite of the ones he did with the band.
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Quote from: estranged.1098 on July 16, 2006, 01:33:10 AM
I think they should keep playing it. The crowd likes the sing along and Axl's voice is absolutely amazing during that part.
What I loved about the 2002 version was Bucket's solo. That's probably my second favorite of the ones he did with the band.
The Buckethead solo was the best part of the 2002 version. Axl sounds great singing the song but it's just one of those songs I could do without live. But any of the Buckethead haters who say he's merely a shredder who doesn't play with bluesy "emotion" should listen to his solo on the 2002 KOHD
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Quote from: ShotgunBlues1978 on July 16, 2006, 01:39:21 AM
Quote from: estranged.1098 on July 16, 2006, 01:33:10 AM
I think they should keep playing it. The crowd likes the sing along and Axl's voice is absolutely amazing during that part.
What I loved about the 2002 version was Bucket's solo. That's probably my second favorite of the ones he did with the band.
The Buckethead solo was the best part of the 2002 version. Axl sounds great singing the song but it's just one of those songs I could do without live. But any of the Buckethead haters who say he's merely a shredder who doesn't play with bluesy "emotion" should listen to his solo on the 2002 KOHD
i think his 2002 kohd solo was very boring..... his solo at HOB was awesome though
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can someone upload the best 2002 version?? thnx very much
btw, who is the one that does backing vocals in 2002 in the chorus? and why don't they have backing vocals like that now?
also I remember they had some cool backing vocals at the end of Madagascar an now they are gone..
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Quote from: dodger girl on July 16, 2006, 02:43:19 AM
btw, who is the one that does backing vocals in 2002 in the chorus? and why don't they have backing vocals like that now?
also I remember they had some cool backing vocals at the end of Madagascar an now they are gone..
Im almost positive Tommy & Robin lead backing vocals to the 2002 version, but then again I really wouldn't be surprised if the whole band helped out with backup singing, minus Buckethead and Brain
As for Madagascar, those would be Robin's, and as far as I know, strictly Robin's backup vocals.
I didn't really notice if Robin still sings during this song or not when I saw them, but If Axl can nail the last few versions of the song like he did in Budapest...backup vocals really wont be needed..
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July 17, 2006, 08:11:07 AM »
Must admit I haven't heard much of the new version, but KOHD is one of my favourite old songs, and I don't know if new versions could top the old ones
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July 17, 2006, 08:59:49 AM »
the UYI/live era style was perhaps the worst cover ever, and (bar the cake jumper in the november rain video) the most embarrassing thing about being a gnr fan.
these days, its stripped back (and as mentioned, resembles dylans original) form works an absolute treat.
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July 17, 2006, 09:28:03 AM »
myself i am fuckin' sick to death of that song.
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I like to play it though...
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Quote from: ashlar on July 17, 2006, 09:28:03 AM
myself i am fuckin' sick to death of that song.
I agree, it's been in their setlist since they were touring for AFD
Maybe they should substitute it with something the new band wrote
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July 17, 2006, 04:04:55 PM »
None of the Gnr versions are nearly as good as Dylan's original or most of Dylan's live versions (Live 1975 or Before the Flood). So, to answer the question-sort of, the new versions aren't as good as the old.
I also think they should just stop playing it-although Tommy is a big Dylan fan. Just drop all covers in my opinion.
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i am one of the few who like the 93 accoustic version
i play guitar myself (and im an accoustic fan
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couldn't have done it better
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I liked both versions, although my favourite is the one in the Ritz 88 show cos it rocked and they didn't drag it out and use all that reggae mumbo jumbo. I think the Illusion Era version was more boring than the new one if anything.
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