theory on why axl wont play more illusion songs

[saint seiya]

remember when axl said slash was all over the place n' trying to take over during the recording of illusion, well maybe thats why he wont play more illusion songs cus his ass knows those songs were 50% slash's, hence why live n let die, knocking on.. , and YCBM are the only illusion songs played...

[gnrkid03]

Don't Cry wasn't Slash's.

[Top-Hatted One]

Nov Rain

[KIKO2K6]

Don't Cry was the firt song wrote by GNR ?AXL & IZZY song.

Maybe he dont like to sing the other ones ...

[DunkinDave]

remember when axl said slash was all over the place n' trying to take over during the recording of illusion, well maybe thats why he wont play more illusion songs cus his ass knows those songs were 50% slash's, hence why live n let die, knocking on.. , and YCBM are the only illusion songs played...

Maybe you should include Axl's actual quote from the Eddie Trunk interview where he said there was 2 albums of material, one from Izzy and one from Slash, with Axl inserting his own songs into both.

Axl said during a 2002 concert that "Don't Cry" wouldn't be played that night because it was an "Izzy song".

But he's on better terms with Izzy now, so hopefully the "Don't Cry" solo turns into a full-out performance eventually.

[ShotgunBlues1978]

Axl said during a 2002 concert that "Don't Cry" wouldn't be played that night because it was an "Izzy song".

Was this quote ever confirmed?  It doesn't make any sense, they played Brownstone and Think About You which were both songs written only by Izzy.  Don't Cry was written by Axl and Izzy so I don't think that's the reason

[jarmo]

Just look at the song writing credits for the UYI songs....




/jarmo

[ClintroN]

prob. legal reasons, like ol' mate said above, songwrittin' credits!!

[Axlative]

Err... wasn't it already mentioned back in 2001-02 that "the new guys" got to decide which old tracks they wanted to play? Hence the inclusion of e.g. Think About You that wasn't played in the Illusion era gigs. And it's no wonder they didn't pick Illusion songs as AFD is the defining album of the band especially for people in the industry. I mean AFD had much bigger impact on people than Illusions, thus the songs non-fans pick as their favorites are from AFD. Except for some longer/epic tracks that aren't exactly perfect live material or ones that Axl otherwise vetoed... 

[Rainbow Warrior]

I think Axl mentioned a couple of years ago that he heard "a dying band" when he listened to the UYI songs. In other words he remembers a band falling apart during the 1990-1992 period especially at the time when Izzy left. "Don't Cry", "November Rain" and "You Could Be Mine" are originally much older songs than a lot of the UYI material and "Live And Let Die" + "Knockin' On Heavens Door" are covers as you know. Guess that?s why he still uses them. However it' s sad that he doesn' t play at least a few more. "Civil War", "Coma" and "Pretty Tied Up" are classics IMO.?

[Tomorrows]

I think Axl mentioned a couple of years ago that he heard "a dying band" when he listened to the UYI songs. In other words he remembers a band falling apart during the 1990-1992 period especially at the time when Izzy left. "Don't Cry", "November Rain" and "You Could Be Mine" are originally much older songs than a lot of the UYI material and "Live And Let Die" + "Knockin' On Heavens Door" are covers as you know. Guess that?s why he still uses them. However it' s sad that he doesn' t play at least a few more. "Civil War", "Coma" and "Pretty Tied Up" are classics IMO. 

I didnt know he said that, but I assumed he didnt play them for that exact reason.

Sad how Axl cant seem to come to terms with that period of his life 

[Jim Bob]

Just look at the song writing credits for the UYI songs....




/jarmo

precisely.  its 75% Rose and Stradlin easily.

I figure the band doesn't play more Illusions songs because they have enough material on their plate right now between the current setlist (most of AFD and more), and all the new stuff, which is supposed to be like 30 some songs.  You can only fit so much material into a setlist.

[Wooody]

nah......he only plays the "sHITS"... 

[Mikkamakka]

Just look at the song writing credits for the UYI songs....




/jarmo

So? Axl has a lot of writing credits there, why don't they play 'his' songs? Like Estranged, Yesterdays, Dead Horse, (Shotgun Blues), Breakdown, Back Off Bitch (Paul Huge/Tobias played in the band for some shows...)

[jarmo]

I don't know why, I'm just saying I don't think it's like the orignal poster thinks.




/jarmo

[oldgunsfan]

Don't Cry wasn't Slash's.

don't cry was written in ~84 / 85 and was played before the AFD tour

[pilferk]

Just look at the song writing credits for the UYI songs....




/jarmo

You beat me to the punch.

ALL AFD's credits are "Guns n Roses", right?

But the UYI albums credit specific members, right?

There's your answer, I think.

[Big Gun]

He is playing UYI songs, obviously not the ones you want mate! ?I don?t care which ones he plays (i like them all), as long as the sound is good that?s enough for me. Take that one to heart!

[russtcb]

Just look at the song writing credits for the UYI songs....




/jarmo

So? Axl has a lot of writing credits there, why don't they play 'his' songs? Like Estranged, Yesterdays, Dead Horse, (Shotgun Blues), Breakdown, Back Off Bitch (Paul Huge/Tobias played in the band for some shows...)

I've wondering about those "obviously Axl" songs myself. I sincerely hope he and the band dust some of them off sooner then later. I would much rather hear You Could Be Mine, Think About You or almost any song switched out for something like Breakdown every so often.

[UK_Gunner]

I see it as Axl wants to recognise the past while moving to the future.

AFD is there history and legacy. You mention Guns N' Roses and AFD come to mind. I think he plays the majority of tracks off this album to recognise the past and then plays The Blues, Maddy, CD, Better etc. as if to say this is what we were, and this is what we are about now.