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« Reply #60 on: May 28, 2006, 11:34:32 PM »

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bucket was in the band, it's not a cover, get over yourself.

That may be the case, but then what would you call re-interpreting another musician's work?


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« Reply #61 on: May 28, 2006, 11:34:44 PM »

Slash Wrote It and wrote it fucking well!
Bucket did an awesome job doin' his own thing with it.
Ron also did his own thing with it and well... I like Ron more then bucket but his solo's need more melody. Like look at the Don't Cry thing. Thats probably the coolest thing I've seen in this new GN'R era.

Oh... and I'd put Slash's outro on Nightrain on the UYI dvd's above everything.
That is by far the best thing I've ever heard. Ever. If you have the dvd's go watch it and tell me Bucket's is better. It's not.

Buckets is a million times better. Ive seen enough bootlegs of the UYI tour to know.

Well then.
We obviously are on oppisite spectrums of how we like our guitar.

I'm not a fan of shred at all.
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« Reply #62 on: May 28, 2006, 11:35:36 PM »

If you have the dvd's go watch it and tell me Bucket's is better. It's not.

That's the wonderful thing about opinion  ok

I own the official pro shot Tokyo DVDs and I've heard plenty of bootlegs to make this assesment.  I still think Buckethead's outro is better than Slash's.  That doesn't mean Slash's aren't awesome, but Buckethead's is just better in my opinion.  It sounds better to me and also is incredibly impressive example of technique
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« Reply #63 on: May 28, 2006, 11:36:31 PM »

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bucket was in the band, it's not a cover, get over yourself.

That may be the case, but then what would you call re-interpreting another musician's work?

What would you call replicating another musician's work note for note?  It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation if you look at it that way
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« Reply #64 on: May 28, 2006, 11:37:11 PM »

Slash Wrote It and wrote it fucking well!
Bucket did an awesome job doin' his own thing with it.
Ron also did his own thing with it and well... I like Ron more then bucket but his solo's need more melody. Like look at the Don't Cry thing. Thats probably the coolest thing I've seen in this new GN'R era.

Oh... and I'd put Slash's outro on Nightrain on the UYI dvd's above everything.
That is by far the best thing I've ever heard. Ever. If you have the dvd's go watch it and tell me Bucket's is better. It's not.

Better yet listen to Nightrain on Live Era. After Gilby gets done fucking up Izzy's solo Slash just absolutely tears it up! And like Pope said....Slash fuckin wrote it!. It's clear anyone everyone saying Slash sucks have only heard the stripped down, 21yr old, 3min version on Appetite
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« Reply #65 on: May 28, 2006, 11:38:42 PM »

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Buckets is a million times better. Ive seen enough bootlegs of the UYI tour to know.


Bucket may be a million times better, but Slash is a million times better at making guitar riffs and solos people will still be listening to and talking about 20 years from now. As a musician, which is most preferable? All the technical prowess in the world doesn't matter if people don't remember/care about the music you make. Bucket will fade back into obscurity, and Slash's guitar solos will continue to be revered. I am sure he is perfectly comfortable being the player he is, even if that means not being considered a virutoso.
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« Reply #66 on: May 28, 2006, 11:40:00 PM »

It's clear anyone everyone saying Slash sucks have only heard the strip down 3min version on Appetite

I don't see how anyone who likes GnR could say Slash sucks  no

But I don't think the Slash wrote it argument really matters because Buckethead wrote his solo in that song.  It doesn't really have anything in common with Slash's except that it's on the same song, it's a totally new spin but for me it fits the song perfectly
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« Reply #67 on: May 28, 2006, 11:45:10 PM »

It's clear anyone everyone saying Slash sucks have only heard the strip down 3min version on Appetite

I don't see how anyone who likes GnR could say Slash sucks  no

But I don't think the Slash wrote it argument really matters because Buckethead wrote his solo in that song.  It doesn't really have anything in common with Slash's except that it's on the same song, it's a totally new spin but for me it fits the song perfectly

I'll clear it up...Slash wrote the core of the song. The overall melody that inspires Buckethead to do his thing.
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« Reply #68 on: May 28, 2006, 11:47:22 PM »

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Buckets is a million times better. Ive seen enough bootlegs of the UYI tour to know.


Bucket may be a million times better, but Slash is a million times better at making guitar riffs and solos people will still be listening to and talking about 20 years from now. As a musician, which is most preferable? All the technical prowess in the world doesn't matter if people don't remember/care about the music you make. Bucket will fade back into obscurity, and Slash's guitar solos will continue to be revered. I am sure he is perfectly comfortable being the player he is, even if that means not being considered a virutoso.

Thats not true. if you've seen Bucket live you know that if he wanted to he could be part of a timeless band. His songs are full of emtion and he can shred like no other! Not many guitar players today can play as good. He is a guitar god in every sense but he chooses to stay out of the limelight. Much like Izzy
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« Reply #69 on: May 29, 2006, 12:08:12 AM »

This version from Pittsburgh 2002 is the best i've ever heard. It's unfucking real. Check it out and tell me what you think.
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=A7C48754364FED70
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« Reply #70 on: May 29, 2006, 12:11:34 AM »

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Buckets is a million times better. Ive seen enough bootlegs of the UYI tour to know.


Bucket may be a million times better, but Slash is a million times better at making guitar riffs and solos people will still be listening to and talking about 20 years from now. As a musician, which is most preferable? All the technical prowess in the world doesn't matter if people don't remember/care about the music you make. Bucket will fade back into obscurity, and Slash's guitar solos will continue to be revered. I am sure he is perfectly comfortable being the player he is, even if that means not being considered a virutoso.

Thats not true. if you've seen Bucket live you know that if he wanted to he could be part of a timeless band. His songs are full of emtion and he can shred like no other! Not many guitar players today can play as good. He is a guitar god in every sense but he chooses to stay out of the limelight. Much like Izzy

But none of his work will be remembered.
Slash will go down in history. He, along with the rest of the original Guns, are shoe-in's for the hall of fame.

Bucket, like it or not will never reach the status Slash has.
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« Reply #71 on: May 29, 2006, 12:15:09 AM »

Bucket, like it or not will never reach the status Slash has.

so what?  that doesn't mean we aren't allowed to like Bucket's take on it better.
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« Reply #72 on: May 29, 2006, 12:16:00 AM »

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Buckets is a million times better. Ive seen enough bootlegs of the UYI tour to know.


Bucket may be a million times better, but Slash is a million times better at making guitar riffs and solos people will still be listening to and talking about 20 years from now. As a musician, which is most preferable? All the technical prowess in the world doesn't matter if people don't remember/care about the music you make. Bucket will fade back into obscurity, and Slash's guitar solos will continue to be revered. I am sure he is perfectly comfortable being the player he is, even if that means not being considered a virutoso.

Thats not true. if you've seen Bucket live you know that if he wanted to he could be part of a timeless band. His songs are full of emtion and he can shred like no other! Not many guitar players today can play as good. He is a guitar god in every sense but he chooses to stay out of the limelight. Much like Izzy

But none of his work will be remembered.
Slash will go down in history. He, along with the rest of the original Guns, are shoe-in's for the hall of fame.

Bucket, like it or not will never reach the status Slash has.

I understand but I'm saying he could reach godlike status if he wanted
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« Reply #73 on: May 29, 2006, 12:17:27 AM »

But none of his work will be remembered.

Maybe not by you.  He doesn't care anyway.  Buckethead is out there in his own world, and obviously being in a huge band and getting showered with praise and attention isn't his thing.  Otherwise he wouldn't wear a mask on his face, go out of his way to make avoid being seen or speaking in public, and he wouldn't have quit GnR.  What happens if his stuff gets left on Chinese Democracy and it sells 10-15 million copies worldwide, are you saying nobody will care about or remember his work on the album?
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« Reply #74 on: May 29, 2006, 12:20:09 AM »

But none of his work will be remembered.

Maybe not by you.  He doesn't care anyway.  Buckethead is out there in his own world, and obviously being in a huge band and getting showered with praise and attention isn't his thing.  Otherwise he wouldn't wear a mask on his face, go out of his way to make avoid being seen or speaking in public, and he wouldn't have quit GnR.  What happens if his stuff gets left on Chinese Democracy and it sells 10-15 million copies worldwide, are you saying nobody will care about or remember his work on the album?

unfortunately I think his parts will be re-recorded so CD won't be as good as it could've been
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« Reply #75 on: May 29, 2006, 12:21:51 AM »

But none of his work will be remembered.

Maybe not by you.  He doesn't care anyway.  Buckethead is out there in his own world, and obviously being in a huge band and getting showered with praise and attention isn't his thing.  Otherwise he wouldn't wear a mask on his face, go out of his way to make avoid being seen or speaking in public, and he wouldn't have quit GnR.  What happens if his stuff gets left on Chinese Democracy and it sells 10-15 million copies worldwide, are you saying nobody will care about or remember his work on the album?

unfortunately I think his parts will be re-recorded so CD won't be as good as it could've been

Tommy and Dizzy both said that Buckethead's parts would be on the album.  Axl also publically thanked Buckethead for his contributions in a statement after Bucket quit, so it seems like they'll stay.  His parts aren't exactly easy to replace
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« Reply #76 on: May 29, 2006, 12:31:13 AM »

If Axl erases Buckets contribution I hope a leaked version of Cd will appear with Buckets parts. I'm dying to hear what he brought to the project.
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« Reply #77 on: May 29, 2006, 12:33:46 AM »

Slash Wrote It and wrote it fucking well!
Bucket did an awesome job doin' his own thing with it.
Ron also did his own thing with it and well... I like Ron more then bucket but his solo's need more melody. Like look at the Don't Cry thing. Thats probably the coolest thing I've seen in this new GN'R era.

Oh... and I'd put Slash's outro on Nightrain on the UYI dvd's above everything.
That is by far the best thing I've ever heard. Ever. If you have the dvd's go watch it and tell me Bucket's is better. It's not.

Better yet listen to Nightrain on Live Era. After Gilby gets done fucking up Izzy's solo Slash just absolutely tears it up! And like Pope said....Slash fuckin wrote it!. It's clear anyone everyone saying Slash sucks have only heard the strip down 3min version on Appetite

I have to give Slash his credit: an amazing solo which I regret everytime I listen to AFD wasn't extended on the album. Of course I have to choose to hear Slash if forced to make such a choice between 3 players. But having said that Bucket was a worthy successor and surely made Slash proud, if he cared to have a listen.

And Naupis, Bucket's work may not be commerically known but among his colleagues his work is very respected.
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« Reply #78 on: May 29, 2006, 01:30:00 AM »

Buckethead... RIR3, Leeds, Boston - all evolution versions are just awesome
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« Reply #79 on: May 29, 2006, 01:31:47 AM »

I think a better question is which version of SCOM is better:

Axl

Sheryl Crowe

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Carrie Underwood


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