Do Bumblefoot and Fortus render Finck obsolete for GnR?

[SylvesterStallone]

Before the Finck groupies jump all over me, let me clarify. This guy is the weakest link in the band. I love Better and his solo in it, hell I enjoy his solos on The Blues as well, but he is far and away the weakest guitarist in this band. Bumblefoot has the technical prowess of Buckethead and can channel the soul of Slash, he's got the best of both worlds here. Maybe he's not as good as those two in their areas, but he can give us emotion and skill.

There is no reason why Finck should be playing lead. He just aint that good, his guitar work is sloppy and he's not that great at improvising solos or varying them. Fortus on the other hand can shred, he can vary his solos, and he can play the old Slash solos note for note when the time comes. November Rain he nails it, and he does a pitch perfect job in Rocket Queen. Soundwise his guitar and Bumblefoots give a clear sound, unlike Finck's.

Finck ought to play rhythm...there is no reason superior players like Bumble and Fortus should be trading leads with this guy. If you ask me, he ought to be out of the band, Bumble and Fortus are more than enough to handle the job. With three guitarists, some of the songs like Rocket Queen sound way too "busy"....Bumble also sounds a lot closer to Slash in tone than Finck does....

Apologies in advance to my buddy Jim Bob....I gave finck a fair shake in this show man....

Oh yeah...Bumble playing Don't Cry....MOMENT OF THE NIGHT...BEAUTIFUL....a definite Slash moment if there ever was one....

[SWINGTRADER]

I agree  Fortus and Bumblefoot is all we need as far as playing live goes. I think Finck is a better songwriter perhaps than both those guys.   Fortus absolutely kicks ass ,  he would have fit in perfectly  in the old band Along Slash.

[HungerForChaos]

Um, no.... Would you like to be without songs like better? Finck wrote the music to that... He has talent.

[Voodoochild]

Before the Finck groupies jump all over me, let me clarify. This guy is the weakest link in the band.

No, its not. And all you're saying is you want another Slash on the band. Robin always wanted to be himself, so move on..

[RnT]

omfg
u got to be kidding me saying that about finck dude... c?mon

[bazgnr]

To me, Finck has the stage presence, the talent, and attitude that earns him his place in the current lineup, not to mention he apparently wrote "Better" as well. ? I thought three guitarists was unnecessary, but after seeing the band live in NYC, Finck stole the show on many occasions. ? The guy is rock solid, and now that the goth look has been buried, he's a better fit than ever, and has more than proved his value within GnR. ?Far from obsolete, in my opinion.

[killingvector]

What exactly has Bumble written for this band? Which solos are his own? Thus far he has only played the parts of two vastly superior players in Bucket and Slash. I would prefer Bumble to be vettisoned and the Bucket brought back in all honesty.

[dave-gnfnr2k]

I disagree Finck  if my fave new member, i have been telling people from the beginning he is great. Listen to the demos and the solos that stand out are fincks.

[Niko]

yes

[W 23 AXL II]

i miss BH


i almost dont even miss Slash anymore, seems like forever ago......

but i do miss BH.....

and robin is a pitch nightmare....he's flat and sharp, rarely on-pitch....but he does look cool, and must be doing something right (nin/gnr) plus, maybe his talent lies in composition (better??? is this true?? if so, impressive)

[Steel_Angel]

Finck wrote better, dude....better..
hes staying.

[dave-gnfnr2k]

i miss BH


i almost dont even miss Slash anymore, seems like forever ago......

but i do miss BH.....

and robin is a pitch nightmare....he's flat and sharp, rarely on-pitch....but he does look cool, and must be doing something right (nin/gnr) plus, maybe his talent lies in composition (better??? is this true?? if so, impressive)

finck was pretty much perfect tonight
what are you talking about?

[W 23 AXL II]

i miss BH


i almost dont even miss Slash anymore, seems like forever ago......

but i do miss BH.....

and robin is a pitch nightmare....he's flat and sharp, rarely on-pitch....but he does look cool, and must be doing something right (nin/gnr) plus, maybe his talent lies in composition (better??? is this true?? if so, impressive)

finck was pretty much perfect tonight
what are you talking about?



are u serious? YOU'RE KIDDING RIGHT??

[killingvector]

i miss BH


i almost dont even miss Slash anymore, seems like forever ago......

but i do miss BH.....

and robin is a pitch nightmare....he's flat and sharp, rarely on-pitch....but he does look cool, and must be doing something right (nin/gnr) plus, maybe his talent lies in composition (better??? is this true?? if so, impressive)

H
finck was pretty much perfect tonight
what are you talking about?

Finck was Finck tonight; he noodled around on the November Rain & Blues solos again both of which sound very choppy, for example. Stage presence wise, he was amazing and fun to watch. I have to admit he shines on the new songs.

[W 23 AXL II]

i love robin, but lets be real.....he's all over the place.....he's not a very good lead guitarist.....he flubs alot, lots of string n pick noise, lots of mistakes, lots of out-of-key phrases etc. etc.


but whatever, he's cool and i think he works..

[Jim Bob]

Apologies in advance to my buddy Jim Bob....I gave finck a fair shake in this show man....

ah its not really a fair shake tho given the poor audio quality of most of the show.  Finck's best moments weren't even audible from this show.     Finck is the best guitarist in the group.  hands down 

[ShotgunBlues1978]

Each of them adds a little something.  Robin has played a major role in writing the new songs.  He did write the music for Better, that alone shows how much he's worth to the band.  The three guitar barrage really rocks live, even if it's not absolutely necessary it sounds great.  To the person who said they miss Buckethead I agree, he added a whole different dimension to the band, his solos on the new songs and on the old ones were all excellent

[Poof!]

Finck is the second most important GN'R member, in my opinion. He's got the talent, the feel and the dedication.

In Finck we trust.

[W 23 AXL II]

yeah, its a shame we cannot heard BH on IRS, TWAT and BETTER solo's...the demos without him on them were very weak.

BH really DID replace Slash........Bumblecock doesn't replace BH.......but whatever, im happy.....axl is happy, they're playing, its all good...the nyc shows were amazing...this is the time to be a gnr fan!

[25]

When Finck is on form he's one of GNRs biggest assets. He has a unique sound and style, not to mention mountains of charisma. I'm pretty certain that once the band has been on the road for a while he'll settle into a consistant level of performance and then we'll be in a position to judge his value as a live performer.


Aside; It used to be said that European audiences judged performers and artists by their achievements, that once you had accomplished something of great merit you would always be recognised for that. Meanwhile, American audiences have always been about "what have you done for me lately?" Has some of this American attitude towards performers crept across the pond? And if so, is it even possible to maintain any sort of positive reputation as a live act anymore? Will every GNR show be followed by a thread questioning the abilities of whichever musician was least impressive on that night?