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« on: May 27, 2006, 09:47:47 PM »

it's not memories of the old band. fuck em; they're dead. this band performs better than the old band could ever dream of doing.

the reason Axl has to cut back on the AFD songs is memories of Axl himself from 87-92. he just doesn't have that same charisma. the wild man on the edge thing that he did back then...which is fine. he's like 44 now. But he just doesn't run around and look like the "fuck you" guy anymore.

this band desperately needs to release Chinese Democracy and rely on THAT album for it's setlists in order to gain a shred of credibility...but more than that, Axl has to start relying on the work he's babied for so long to introduce us to middle aged Axl instead of trying, and failing (as any of us would do trying to relive our late 20s self at mid 40s) to be the old Axl.

of course you have to play paradise, scom, jungle, NR, YCBM....but quite honestly, i see no reason to play anything other than that from the old material...for Axl's sake. maybe nighttrain, cause it comes off the best of any of the old songs live, but that's it.

that's why it's touch and go whether this tour can work without at least a firm plan (other than "yeah, for sure in the fall) to release the album. right now, playing a couple new songs and relying on the old songs from the best rock album ever, this is an Axl Rose glamor project, even tho as a band, they just might be the best playing and sounding band in the world right now.

i mean, IRS and Better smoked. other than nighttrain, and taking into account horrific sound, those were the two best songs of the set. why? because we've all heard the others a billion times and seen Axl perform (if not sing) them better years ago. he needs to stick to playing the material from where his mid is at NOW rather than where it was as a badass 25 year old.
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« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2006, 09:50:53 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2006, 09:52:01 PM »

The AFD songs will be cut back once the album is released. ?Don't worry. ?For now they just need to play what the fans know, because if he plays anymore of CD, then we would have heard basically everything once it IS finally released.

For now I'm fine with the old school set. ?But in the future I want a mixture of 30% AFD / 25% UYI&Lies / and 45% CD.
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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2006, 09:52:53 PM »

Like I said on my site during my review of the show, November Rain has turned into the "piss break" song. We've seen it a million times.

Give it a couple of years, and a couple of albums, and most of the old stuff will be dead and buried
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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2006, 09:52:57 PM »

it's not memories of the old band. fuck em; they're dead. this band performs better than the old band could ever dream of doing.

I like the new band, but this type of ass kissing pandering is really disgusting.... Roll Eyes

Slash vs. Finck? ?Come on..
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« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2006, 09:55:15 PM »

it's not memories of the old band. fuck em; they're dead. this band performs better than the old band could ever dream of doing.

I like the new band, but this type of ass kissing pandering is really disgusting.... Roll Eyes

Slash vs. Finck?  Come on..
whats really disgusting and sad is that people can't have the above opinion without being told thats really disgusting.  What bullshit is that?  Some of us do think the new band is a better band then the old.  so fucking what?
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« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2006, 09:55:40 PM »

The AFD songs will be cut back once the album is released. ?Don't worry. ?For now they just need to play what the fans know, because if he plays anymore of CD, then we would have heard basically everything once it IS finally released.

For now I'm fine with the old school set. ?But in the future I want a mixture of 30% AFD / 25% UYI&Lies / and 45% CD.

my point is they shouldn't be touring until at the very least the new album has a date...
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« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2006, 09:55:53 PM »

it's not memories of the old band. fuck em; they're dead. this band performs better than the old band could ever dream of doing.

I like the new band, but this type of ass kissing pandering is really disgusting.... Roll Eyes

Slash vs. Finck?  Come on..

*sniff* *sniff* I smell bias... And I agree with Jim Bob.
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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2006, 09:56:53 PM »

it's not memories of the old band. fuck em; they're dead. this band performs better than the old band could ever dream of doing.

I like the new band, but this type of ass kissing pandering is really disgusting.... Roll Eyes

Slash vs. Finck? ?Come on..

slash vs bumble or bucket? i love slash...my guitar idol, wrote some of the best songs ever, but he just never performed live as well as these guys do....as a unit, this band is head and shoulders above the old band.
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« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2006, 09:57:38 PM »

it's not memories of the old band. fuck em; they're dead. this band performs better than the old band could ever dream of doing.

the reason Axl has to cut back on the AFD songs is memories of Axl himself from 87-92. he just doesn't have that same charisma. the wild man on the edge thing that he did back then...which is fine. he's like 44 now. But he just doesn't run around and look like the "fuck you" guy anymore.

this band desperately needs to release Chinese Democracy and rely on THAT album for it's setlists in order to gain a shred of credibility...but more than that, Axl has to start relying on the work he's babied for so long to introduce us to middle aged Axl instead of trying, and failing (as any of us would do trying to relive our late 20s self at mid 40s) to be the old Axl.

of course you have to play paradise, scom, jungle, NR, YCBM....but quite honestly, i see no reason to play anything other than that from the old material...for Axl's sake. maybe nighttrain, cause it comes off the best of any of the old songs live, but that's it.

that's why it's touch and go whether this tour can work without at least a firm plan (other than "yeah, for sure in the fall) to release the album. right now, playing a couple new songs and relying on the old songs from the best rock album ever, this is an Axl Rose glamor project, even tho as a band, they just might be the best playing and sounding band in the world right now.

i mean, IRS and Better smoked. other than nighttrain, and taking into account horrific sound, those were the two best songs of the set. why? because we've all heard the others a billion times and seen Axl perform (if not sing) them better years ago. he needs to stick to playing the material from where his mid is at NOW rather than where it was as a badass 25 year old.

I agree 110% with that post. Dead on.

And by the way, Finck is better than Slash.
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« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2006, 09:59:59 PM »



People stay on topic please.  No need to bring Slash back in the picture. He is not in GNR anymore.

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« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2006, 10:09:07 PM »

it's not memories of the old band. fuck em; they're dead. this band performs better than the old band could ever dream of doing.

I like the new band, but this type of ass kissing pandering is really disgusting.... Roll Eyes

Slash vs. Finck? ?Come on..

I'd take Frink any day.
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« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2006, 10:10:10 PM »

Like I said on my site during my review of the show, November Rain has turned into the "piss break" song. We've seen it a million times.

Give it a couple of years, and a couple of albums, and most of the old stuff will be dead and buried

Go release checkmate or something you're all bs.
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« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2006, 10:12:59 PM »

it's not memories of the old band. fuck em; they're dead. this band performs better than the old band could ever dream of doing.

the reason Axl has to cut back on the AFD songs is memories of Axl himself from 87-92. he just doesn't have that same charisma. the wild man on the edge thing that he did back then...which is fine. he's like 44 now. But he just doesn't run around and look like the "fuck you" guy anymore.

this band desperately needs to release Chinese Democracy and rely on THAT album for it's setlists in order to gain a shred of credibility...but more than that, Axl has to start relying on the work he's babied for so long to introduce us to middle aged Axl instead of trying, and failing (as any of us would do trying to relive our late 20s self at mid 40s) to be the old Axl.

of course you have to play paradise, scom, jungle, NR, YCBM....but quite honestly, i see no reason to play anything other than that from the old material...for Axl's sake. maybe nighttrain, cause it comes off the best of any of the old songs live, but that's it.

that's why it's touch and go whether this tour can work without at least a firm plan (other than "yeah, for sure in the fall) to release the album. right now, playing a couple new songs and relying on the old songs from the best rock album ever, this is an Axl Rose glamor project, even tho as a band, they just might be the best playing and sounding band in the world right now.

i mean, IRS and Better smoked. other than nighttrain, and taking into account horrific sound, those were the two best songs of the set. why? because we've all heard the others a billion times and seen Axl perform (if not sing) them better years ago. he needs to stick to playing the material from where his mid is at NOW rather than where it was as a badass 25 year old.
although I value opinions, this is pretty pointless because Axl is going to do what Axl is going to do, learn to live with it or move on and live the rest of your life with the great memories.
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« Reply #14 on: May 27, 2006, 10:48:01 PM »

it's not memories of the old band. fuck em; they're dead. this band performs better than the old band could ever dream of doing.

the reason Axl has to cut back on the AFD songs is memories of Axl himself from 87-92. he just doesn't have that same charisma. the wild man on the edge thing that he did back then...which is fine. he's like 44 now. But he just doesn't run around and look like the "fuck you" guy anymore.

this band desperately needs to release Chinese Democracy and rely on THAT album for it's setlists in order to gain a shred of credibility...but more than that, Axl has to start relying on the work he's babied for so long to introduce us to middle aged Axl instead of trying, and failing (as any of us would do trying to relive our late 20s self at mid 40s) to be the old Axl.

of course you have to play paradise, scom, jungle, NR, YCBM....but quite honestly, i see no reason to play anything other than that from the old material...for Axl's sake. maybe nighttrain, cause it comes off the best of any of the old songs live, but that's it.

that's why it's touch and go whether this tour can work without at least a firm plan (other than "yeah, for sure in the fall) to release the album. right now, playing a couple new songs and relying on the old songs from the best rock album ever, this is an Axl Rose glamor project, even tho as a band, they just might be the best playing and sounding band in the world right now.

i mean, IRS and Better smoked. other than nighttrain, and taking into account horrific sound, those were the two best songs of the set. why? because we've all heard the others a billion times and seen Axl perform (if not sing) them better years ago. he needs to stick to playing the material from where his mid is at NOW rather than where it was as a badass 25 year old.

I disagree. The truth  is in the eyes. Axl's eyes are alive again. In 1992, they were dead. He was performing on autopilot. Same in 2002. His eyes were dead. But now, he is energized and into the music, the show, the crowd. Axl is back, and the GNR community is all the better  for it. I have been, at times severe, critic of Axl on this board, for good reason, but now, wow, I am impressed and really happy to see  the band is back! GNR IS BACK!! (at least  this version of the band).
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« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2006, 11:14:18 PM »

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nigga please.
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« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2006, 11:17:39 PM »



People stay on topic please.  No need to bring Slash back in the picture. He is not in GNR anymore.



Umm when he says that the new band plays the old songs better, that is on topic.


And if you think that the new GNR is better on the old songs than GNR ever was, you're fucking certifiably insane.

No knocks on the new GNR, the new stuff is great (TWAT IRS Maddy Blues) but when doing the old stuff, they are an okay cover band with the greatest frontman ever.
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« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2006, 12:52:48 AM »

it's not memories of the old band. fuck em; they're dead. this band performs better than the old band could ever dream of doing.

I like the new band, but this type of ass kissing pandering is really disgusting.... Roll Eyes

Slash vs. Finck? ?Come on..

I'd take Frink any day.
You'd take Finck over Slash?

Dude,
Finck is a very capable player but not in Slash's league
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« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2006, 01:10:47 AM »

it's not memories of the old band. fuck em; they're dead. this band performs better than the old band could ever dream of doing.


IS this really necessary? You sound like a fuckin douchebag now. Are you tonally deaf? The old band had technical prowess in spades. Finck still struggles to play solos on November Rain. If Bumble and Fortus weren't there to pick up the slack this band would be in trouble.
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« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2006, 01:20:25 AM »

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this band performs better than the old band could ever dream of doing.

nigga please.

Say what you will, but people who saw the old band have often said that the 2002 MSG show and the Hammerstein shows were every bit as good or better than the old band
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