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Re: Budapest Sportarena, May 31 (Budapest, Hungary)
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Quote from: Evil Ash on May 30, 2006, 03:50:30 PM
anybody keeping us updated tomorrow??
I am trying to organize something so stay tuned... we'll see how it goes
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Just 24hours to go...
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Anyone have the start time for this show for the people in the US?
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Goddamnit, I can't go because of exams
I even have a ticket...
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Re: Budapest Sportarena, May 31 (Budapest, Hungary)
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Quote from: mahimahi23 on May 31, 2006, 07:49:05 AM
Anyone have the start time for this show for the people in the US?
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14.00 ET - support band
15.00/16.00/17.00/who knows... ?ET - Gn'R
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Re: Budapest Sportarena, May 31 (Budapest, Hungary)
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Quote from: MadmanDan on May 31, 2006, 09:05:33 AM
Goddamnit, I can't go because of exams? ?
I even have a ticket...
You can pass your exams every year, but Guns N' Roses plays in Budapest in every 14 years.
You should reconsider it!
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Re: Budapest Sportarena, May 31 (Budapest, Hungary)
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Quote from: Zsolt on May 31, 2006, 09:08:21 AM
Quote from: mahimahi23 on May 31, 2006, 07:49:05 AM
Anyone have the start time for this show for the people in the US?
Thanks
14.00 ET - support band
15.00/16.00/17.00/who knows... ?ET - Gn'R
ahaha..ok, thanks, I appreciate it.
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Re: Budapest Sportarena, May 31 (Budapest, Hungary)
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Would anyone going to the show be interested in giving me live updates from the arena? I would post them here and on my site during the show. If you're interested you can PM me or email me: webmaster @ gnrfrance.net . We could use SMS, like I did with a friend for Madrid.
Thanks in advance and enjoy the show everyone!
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Re: Budapest Sportarena, May 31 (Budapest, Hungary)
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was there and am back to work now... uh, oh I am getting old.
short... 22:17 a delay message on Hungarian, I was already 'there you go, show is cancelled', but then some good Hungarian people explain it is only delayed for 20-25 minutes. Oh well... Music that was played didn't help and people started to get nervous. Some left. Few minutes to midnight lights go down and INTRO. And a long one, 10 minutes maybe (don't blame me, I was driving straight from work to the show for 4 hours and then 4 hours back right to the work
). And then WTTJ... The sound (middle of arena, left, seating) is shit... It is noise, but hey GNR are there.
Axl is cool, Robin is very angry/strange... keeps running around and kicking different mic stands
... the guy the collects them is also pissed... BETTER... the sound is still not good. When the heavy part starts Robin slams his guitar and gets backstage. There is no his nice melodic solo in BETTER. Axl looks for Robin and after the song sinishes he goes backstage. And everything continues... A song or 2 later after a song (don't remember which one) Axl asks: "Is there a technical difficulty I am not made aware of?" or something like that.
From then it gets better and better. At one point Axl appologies for delay
and says he was in DEEP SHIT (it is enough for me and I have no idea what he ment, just that what he said).
They finished 10 minutes to 2AM. Shorter show. No new songs except Blues and Better. Most Appetite, November Rain and nothing else. I guess they had to finish till 2AM.
Except for the sound problems, everything was great. Energy was great. I am sorry to say that all things I said about Robin are... well TRUE. He doesn't have phrasing problems, he played shit out of his guitar. Fortus also. Great, great... Ron, very good, I guess I need to get used to him... Don't Cry was amazing although expected. But he rocks.
IMPRESSIVE SHOW! You just had to be there...
Things need to get polished for sure... the breaks between songs were too long, video was not used in a way it could be (just few loops and live camera). Sound, ah well... it was much better towards the end (at the beginning Axl had some weird compression on his vocal and is was just fuc!ed up).
Ah, well I got to work... (sleep).
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Re: Budapest Sportarena, May 31 (Budapest, Hungary)
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The show was great, the new band is tighter than ever!
I don't mention the late, the other guy ^^^^^has commented it, but the reason was Axl's taking a late plane from Milano
. Axl was really great, although he's older and cannot run and cannot dance anyomre, but his voice was much better than in 2002. The band played almost everything note by note. Finck's playing improved a lot, he was damn good. Thal and Fortus played as usual. The setlist was short
They started with WTTJ, ISE, Mr. Brownstone and Better. It was like a nuclear assault. Everybody forgot the hours of waiting. But there were interludes (guitar solos, jams, piano solo) between the songs and it slowed down everything, killed the rhythm and energy of the concert. BTW the guitar solos were boring and uninspired.
Axl didn't talk too much, didn't even introduce the band!
The crowd didn't really like the new songs. Better's intro was false as hell, but this song got the best reaction. Madagascar is not for concerts and The Blues was the low point of the show (among with the fucked-up Out ta Get Me and the boring KOHD). They played only 3 of the new tunes.
And the highlights (for me): WTTJ, Easy, Brownstone, My Michelle, Nightrain and Paradise City. The crowd went nuts during WTTJ, Easy, LALD, SCOM, NR, Nightrain and PC.
They didn't play RQ and Patience(!).
Can't wait to hear them again with a longer setlist and without these guitar solos and jams.
Setlist:
01- Intro (mostly Pittman, around 10 minutes)
02- Welcome To The Jungle
03- It's So Easy
04- Mr. Brownstone
05- Better
06- Solo
07- Live And Let Die
08- Madagascar
09- Robin Solo
10- Sweet Child O' Mine
11- Richard & Robin Solo
12- You Could Be Mine
13- Blues Jam
14- Dizzy Solo
15- The Blues
16- Out Ta Get Me
17- Knockin' On Heaven's Door
18- My Michelle
19- Axl Piano Solo
20- November Rain
21 Instrumental: "Ancient Hungarian Folksong" (Nobody knows what...)
22- Nightrain
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23- Ron Solo (Don't Cry)
24- Robin Solo
25- Paradise City
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Quote from: Velimir on June 01, 2006, 02:47:43 AM
was there and am back to work now... uh, oh I am getting old.
short... 22:17 a delay message on Hungarian, I was already 'there you go, show is cancelled', but then some good Hungarian people explain it is only delayed for 20-25 minutes. Oh well... Music that was played didn't help and people started to get nervous. Some left. Few minutes to midnight lights go down and INTRO. And a long one, 10 minutes maybe (don't blame me, I was driving straight from work to the show for 4 hours and then 4 hours back right to the work
). And then WTTJ... The sound (middle of arena, left, seating) is shit... It is noise, but hey GNR are there.
Axl is cool, Robin is very angry/strange... keeps running around and kicking different mic stands
... the guy the collects them is also pissed... BETTER... the sound is still not good.
When the heavy part starts Robin slams his guitar and gets backstage.
There is no his nice melodic solo in BETTER. Axl looks for Robin and after the song sinishes he goes backstage. And everything continues... A song or 2 later after a song (don't remember which one) Axl asks: "Is there a technical difficulty I am not made aware of?" or something like that.
From then ...
Good reviews to both the posts above mine. Thanks guys and Im glad you liked it.
What happened here? Was Finck pissed at the sound or something? Did he damage his guitar? Did the other guys looked worried?
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Re: Budapest Sportarena, May 31 (Budapest, Hungary)
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great reviews! thanks guys. ?
in years past, those issues may have caused major problems (i.e. cancellation or shortened set)
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Quote from: Mikkamakka on June 01, 2006, 08:17:37 AM
21 Instrumental: "Ancient Hungarian Folksong" (Nobody knows what...)
This was just a joke, but it shows that Axl has got memories on the Budapest gig in '92, when he sang Tavaszi sz?l, a real hungarian folksong.
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Quote from: Tomorrows on June 01, 2006, 08:38:39 AM
What happened here? Was Finck pissed at the sound or something? Did he damage his guitar? Did the other guys looked worried?
Finck came to the stage pissed off. He smashed 4 different guitars and a mic stand during the first 4 songs. During Easy (or Brownstone) he gave up playin and only sang the song, but like an idiot... He took the stand with his arms and looked like he tried to imitate someone ?
And then he left in the middle of Better.
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Quote from: Mikkamakka on June 01, 2006, 09:00:22 AM
Quote from: Tomorrows on June 01, 2006, 08:38:39 AM
What happened here? Was Finck pissed at the sound or something? Did he damage his guitar? Did the other guys looked worried?
Finck came to the stage pissed off. He smashed 4 different guitars and a mic stand during the first 4 songs. During Easy (or Brownstone) he gave up playin and only sang the song, but like an idiot... He took the stand with his arms and looked like he tried to imitate someone
And then he left in the middle of Better.
Holy shit! Did he come back? This is worrying stuff.
Not to start a whole string of speculation (its the wrong place to do it), but I hope he wasnt pissed at Axl for being late to front on stage - its going to happen more, just like it did in 2002.
This is disturbing stuff. (On the bright side a little bit of tension can do wonders for the creative process)
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Quote from: Tomorrows on June 01, 2006, 09:16:53 AM
Holy shit! Did he come back? This is worrying stuff.
Not to start a whole string of speculation (its the wrong place to do it), but I hope he wasnt pissed at Axl for being late to front on stage - its going to happen more, just like it did in 2002.
This is disturbing stuff. (On the bright side a little bit of tension can do wonders for the creative process)
I think it MAY have been a sound issue, but I'm looking for someone to confirm that. I read it somewhere, but am not sure if it's the entire truth or just a part of what pissed him off.
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Quote from: Tomorrows on June 01, 2006, 09:16:53 AM
Holy shit! Did he come back? This is worrying stuff.
Not to start a whole string of speculation (its the wrong place to do it), but I hope he wasnt pissed at Axl for being late to front on stage - its going to happen more, just like it did in 2002.
This is disturbing stuff. (On the bright side a little bit of tension can do wonders for the creative process)
I think it MAY have been a sound issue, but I'm looking for someone to confirm that. I read it somewhere, but am not sure if it's the entire truth or just a part of what pissed him off.
Its worrying - quite a few people have commented that Finck seems to be moody on this tour. He was such a trooper in 01/02, right?
Mikkamakka hinted that Finck may have been trying to insult Axl by parodying his microphone maneuvers.
Thats my take on this "He took the stand with his arms and looked like he tried to imitate someone". Want to clarify mikka?
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I guess he imitated Axl.
BTW some fans tried to get autographs from the guys or talk some... Richard, Dizzy and mostly Ron was very kind, a fan had a long conversation with Bumble
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the show. Stinson was great one day before the show, but not on the 'big day': as far as I know he didn't sign anything and didn't let take pics. And everybody said that Finck was an asshole, he walked like the fans wouldn't exist, he didn't even say a 'No', just gone away without looking at the fans.
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Finck seemed to have a bad day. But i think it's funny
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Doesn't sound very professional of Finck. Sounds like he was acting like a 5 year old brat. He threw his guitar when I saw Axl and the new band in Vegas of '01.
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yeah, lets start a Finck Fucking Rumour...
it was nothing in between axl and robin... just the sound was really screwed at the beginning and robin was pissed (and the guy picking up mic stands was irritating to him
)... later all was fucking cool. lets chill out every-show-someone-screwing-an-elephant thing and enjoy what we have... they all jammed and it sounded better and better towards the end.
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