Chinese Democracy needs a pop song...

[russtcb]

TWAT needs a new chorus. Like... Really need a new chorus.

You still haven't answered the question from before. All you're doing is critizing what we've heard (Better and now TWAT) and saying they're not "pop" enough to be successful on radio.

So it brings back the question; what do you think would be? Are you saying they need a song that sounds like Nickelback and everything else on the radio to be popular?

[EFISH]

first off, this is a sweet thread

now on to my opinions...

Better--- it is my favorite of the new songs, i cant get enough of it, however IMO there is no way this will hit the charts. I just can not see it happening.

IRS---- will be a favorite for GNR fans, but not from the mainstream.

TWAT---- im not quite sure yet, this might be a breakthough, maybe not.

CITR---- its gonna be big, but not HUGE.

The Blues----will be the most popular of the new songs to the general public... probually going to be a hit on the mainstream also.

Chinese Democracy- this song is one of my favorites for sure! i love it but its not the kind of song that would be a big hit, we'll see when we get the studio version.

Theres more but im done....

Who agrees? who doesnt?

[gilld1]

A powerful ballad, sure they need that.  Some catchy choruses, yes.  A pop song, get the fuck out of here.  The world does not need a Axl/Justin Timberlake collaboration.  Rock is back or at least on its way back.  Just remember, this is coming from a kid who thinks that BuckFerry has the album of the year....nuff said.

[da_pope]

You still haven't answered the question from before. All you're doing is critizing what we've heard (Better and now TWAT) and saying they're not "pop" enough to be successful on radio.

So it brings back the question; what do you think would be? Are you saying they need a song that sounds like Nickelback and everything else on the radio to be popular?

No. I think "Better" is an awesome song. I love it.
I'm just not naive enough to believe that it will be the next "Hollaback Girl" as far as radio play go.

[Evolution]

There is no way anyone can accurately predict the commercial success of a song. It could be a surprise hit, or a huge flop. We just have to wait and see.

[da_pope]

A powerful ballad, sure they need that.? Some catchy choruses, yes.? A pop song, get the fuck out of here.? The world does not need a Axl/Justin Timberlake collaboration.? Rock is back or at least on its way back.? Just remember, this is coming from a kid who thinks that BuckFerry has the album of the year....nuff said.

Are you fucking retarted or can you not read?
I said a pop song as in Radio friendly... doesn't have to an actual "pop, teeny bobber" song.

Just something radio friendly like Sweet Child O' Mine was.

[The Dog]

I don't think CD "needs" anything, especially a "pop song".  Everytime a fan says what Axl "should do" or "he has to blah blah blah" or CD and Guns "need to" do this and that I just roll my eyes.  Not pointing out anyone in particular, but some of the comments people make sound like they came from biz suits at some record company who have never even been to a GNR concert.  CD doesn't need anything - it just needs to ROCK AND FUCKING ROLL.  IT NEEDS TO KICK MAJOR ASS and shake shit up the way AFD did.  The reason Grunge was able to take over was b/c record execs and biz suits kept telling rock bands "what they needed" just to sell more records. 

AFD didn't conform to the mainstream, it BECAME the mainstream.

The reason rock has flat lined is b/c people stopped caring about the music and more about how to get their song on the radio and how high they'd chart.

[Chief]

how do we know they don't already HAVE a "pop" song for the album?

[Ineverlearn000022]

Ok...I didn't even read all the threads posted; because I didn't need too.  It is Guns n' Roses so don't worry about a fucking radio friendly song bc after hearing the leaks it sounds like the old (enough) GNR.  Any casual fan wouldn't be able to tell the difference.  And DJ's across the world are salvating over the new material.  Even if they have their compliants...they will play the shit out of this album.

[ShotgunBlues1978]

The Blues will be a huge hit if it's released as a single, on rock and mainstream radio.  Better will also be a big hit.  They should release two singles before the album, for rock radio and a more pop friendly song.  The Blues and Better, just based on their sound and having the name Guns N Roses attached will get airplay on rock and mainstream radio, although The Blues is probably the most viable surefire radio hit they have right now.  It has everything that made November Rain a hit but a shorter runtime

[Jimmy?]

GNR will produce the goods..... wait and see 

[St_Jimmyuk]

better is the kind of song that may be able to get to the number 1 spot in the uk now, rock is making a come back

[Mandy.]

Better is not radio friendly.
Maybe it would be in the 80's but not today.

What?? Better is THE MOST radio friendly out of all the new songs.

[russtcb]

AFD didn't conform to the mainstream, it BECAME the mainstream.

Thats exactly the point I think of when I hear Better. It's got nothing to do with being "naive" or any other insult thrown out regarding people who think Better will be a hit. It has to do with the quality of music and whether people will come to it or it will come to people, ya know?

[SPUNKY]

well I was in the pub last night watching England lose!!!

 

anyway went to the pub straight from the gym had IPOD ?on me, the lads were taking the mick out of me saying GNR are well past it, made them listen to better, they couldnt beliveve it was GNR. most said it was well good and different which I thought was a good thing, and asked when the album was coming out!!!

 

[shaun]

Chinese Democracy needs a pop song...

what ever 

[shaun]

Better is not radio friendly.
Maybe it would be in the 80's but not today.

What?? Better is THE MOST radio friendly out of all the new songs.

The problem is, radio stations have a habit of missing off the beginging of a song followed by talking over the end part as well as fading the song out. Better needs to be played from the start to the end as the into makes way for the high contrast stuff that cuts in about 20 seonds after the song starts.

I don't listen to radio these days. I check the charts out on the web and downdown the singles to check them out. I keep the ones i like. I tend to buy albums opposed to singles anyway.

[sonovagun]

I don't think CD "needs" anything, especially a "pop song".? Everytime a fan says what Axl "should do" or "he has to blah blah blah" or CD and Guns "need to" do this and that I just roll my eyes.? Not pointing out anyone in particular, but some of the comments people make sound like they came from biz suits at some record company who have never even been to a GNR concert.? CD doesn't need anything - it just needs to ROCK AND FUCKING ROLL.? IT NEEDS TO KICK MAJOR ASS and shake shit up the way AFD did.? The reason Grunge was able to take over was b/c record execs and biz suits kept telling rock bands "what they needed" just to sell more records.?

AFD didn't conform to the mainstream, it BECAME the mainstream.
couldnt agree more am i the only one who remembers WTTJ on the radio for the first time blew my socks off and its not a pop song and within 2 weeks there must have been 200 new gnr fans just in my school alone it doesnt need a "pop song" it needs to stand out alone.
Also to get to the top of the charts in England doesnt mean just selling singles it also goes on airplay requests and downloads.

The reason rock has flat lined is b/c people stopped caring about the music and more about how to get their song on the radio and how high they'd chart.

[michaelvincent]

Catcher in the Rye is as pop as pop can be, it was practically lifted from the Beatles songbook you dimwits. 

[SPUNKY]

Catcher in the Rye is as pop as pop can be, it was practically lifted from the Beatles songbook you dimwits.?

good point !!!