Chinese Democracy needs a pop song...

[Bostonrose]

How about a release date? 

Maybe that's what Chinese Democracy needs

[oldgunsfan]

Before you guys start accusing me of Axl bashing I'd like to state that I love Better and i think it's a kick ass song but I'm just saying it's not going to come near to what you guys are expecting it to.

A reunited Guns couldn't release a top 5 hit these days. There is no chance.
Rock N' Roll is dead when it comes to mainstream radio.

thanx for stating the obvious 

but who on this board lidtens to mainstreem radio??

[TheMole]

but who on this board lidtens to mainstreem radio??

Well, here in Belgium radio stations are usually targetted at demographics instead of being tied to a particular genre. So we don't have "classic rock radio" or "hip hip" radio stations. So I guess you could say I listen to mainstream radio (in the car).

[gunz92]

I just wanted to say that I also think Better will be a huge hit. A great radio song. I have four children 16,13,11 and 6. The oldest three all love this song and all have put this on their ipods. I see them all walking around singing this song , even my 6 year old. These are the gunners of tomorrow. Bless their little hearts! I love seeing my kids enjoy Guns as much as me.

[russtcb]

I just wanted to say that I also think Better will be a huge hit. A great radio song. I have four children 16,13,11 and 6. The oldest three all love this song and all have put this on their ipods. I see them all walking around singing this song , even my 6 year old. These are the gunners of tomorrow. Bless their little hearts! I love seeing my kids enjoy Guns as much as me.

My nieces are the same way. I gave it to my oldest niece (she's 21) and all of them down to the 12 year old are listening to it now. My wife even loves the song and she's definately a "Sweet Child" type of GNR fan!

[mikegiuliana]

better is a good pop rock song, that should be fine..

[axl_rose_700]

Better is not radio friendly.
Maybe it would be in the 80's but not today.

WAY to heavy. WAY to many effects.

You'll be proven very wrong after it's an enormous hit.

Haha ok buddy?

If Better is an enormous hit? (top 5 mainstream) I will promise to never log on to the internet again.

We'll hold you to that! 

[gilld1]

dapoop, there is a hige difference between the words pop and radio friendly.  Get a fucking clue there in teenage wasteland.

[russtcb]

Better is not radio friendly.
Maybe it would be in the 80's but not today.

WAY to heavy. WAY to many effects.

You'll be proven very wrong after it's an enormous hit.

Haha ok buddy 

If Better is an enormous hit  (top 5 mainstream) I will promise to never log on to the internet again.

We'll hold you to that! 

Dont'cha sometimes wish there was really a way to hold people to shit like that??

[axl_rose_700]

Better is not radio friendly.
Maybe it would be in the 80's but not today.

WAY to heavy. WAY to many effects.

You'll be proven very wrong after it's an enormous hit.

Haha ok buddy?

If Better is an enormous hit? (top 5 mainstream) I will promise to never log on to the internet again.

We'll hold you to that!?

Dont'cha sometimes wish there was really a way to hold people to shit like that??

I'm sure we could find a way... 

[Eazy E]

dapoop, there is a hige difference between the words pop and radio friendly. Get a fucking clue there in teenage wasteland.

Explain.

Better would be a hit on rock charts no doubt, but da_pope is talking about a crossover hit.? We haven't heard that yet.? Better would have the same type of impact a "Slither" would have.? Rock albums are doing good on the album charts, so Chinese Democracy could debut at #1... but what he is saying is that GN'R needs a song that can get mass appeal and get in the Top 10 on the Hot 100.? If that happened, then the album could STAY in the Top 10 for a year or so (like Green Day, like Mariah Carey, etc.).? Otherwise it has its run and fades away (like Velvet, like Audioslave, etc.).

There is a huge difference between mass appeal and your friends saying "Cool, when does the album come out?" to keep a conversation going.

Also, if the band has a song that is actually capable of climbing the Hot 100 charts, it gets the band's name out there to the point where the public will pay more attention to their NEXT single, which could be a lot harder or different from what's generally on the radio and help to change what people want from music.? A crossover hit like this will help to make a wider audience curious about the whole album and discover the songs that are less radio-friendly (but possibly better songs).

[dave-gnfnr2k]

dapoop, there is a hige difference between the words pop and radio friendly.? Get a fucking clue there in teenage wasteland.

NO there isnt. Its the same thing.   A POP song is a POPular song, meaning a song that is radio friendly.

[gilld1]

To me there is a vast difference.  When I hear the word "pop" I hear that song has no balls.  SCOM was a popular song but it was blues based and IMO had some balls.  Radio friendly, sure.  Crossover appeal, I can agree with, but not pop.

[Crashdiet]

better could be a hit if you took out the middle part ie "i never wanted you to be.."

I personally love those parts BUT the average radio listener is going to change the channel at that point... I hope they have more radio friendly tune in the wings.

[dizzy68]

 I used to work on the Radio. On more than one occasion I felt what songs would make the charts and what songs wouldn't. I wanted to start playing two songs on my show. Both times My Boss said No Go because they wern't on the charts and he didn't think they would be. He then said... however if they do make the charts, then I could put them in the rack and the station would start playing them. I could tell that he was absolutely certain that these songs would never make it anywhere near the charts. Well four weeks later, I'm flipping through Billboard magazine and they they were. Both listed at HOT PICKS and both on the charts. So I walked into his office with a big grin and told him. His reaction was priceless. Total Shock. He look liked his best friend has just been shot. Needless to say I personally made sure those two songs were instantly put in the rotation.

 Moral of the story. 'THE BLUES" is going to be the Big Radio hit if the day comes where this stuff is released. I can almost Guarantee it. 
 

[da_pope]

dapoop, there is a hige difference between the words pop and radio friendly. Get a fucking clue there in teenage wasteland.

Explain.

Better would be a hit on rock charts no doubt, but da_pope is talking about a crossover hit.? We haven't heard that yet.? Better would have the same type of impact...

Thank You!
Fuck... I was thinking that there were no logical thinkers on this site. Everyone think what Axl does will automatically be #1 on everything.

Guns only had #1 hit ever. November Rain didn't even hit #1 and that was back in rock's hayday.

It's EXTREMLEY difficult for a hard rock band to have a popular mainstream hit.

[oldgunsfan]

dapoop, there is a hige difference between the words pop and radio friendly. Get a fucking clue there in teenage wasteland.

Explain.

Better would be a hit on rock charts no doubt, but da_pope is talking about a crossover hit.? We haven't heard that yet.? Better would have the same type of impact...

Thank You!
Fuck... I was thinking that there were no logical thinkers on this site. Everyone think what Axl does will automatically be #1 on everything.

Guns only had #1 hit ever. November Rain didn't even hit #1 and that was back in rock's hayday.

It's EXTREMLEY difficult for a hard rock band to have a popular mainstream hit.

yea and Sweet Child went #1 by accident.....I think it was a combo of the video, Axl's dance and Slash's solo
than after Sweet Child WTTJ started to get played alot after it was largely ignored

[misterbrownstone]

Better is not radio friendly.
Maybe it would be in the 80's but not today.

WAY to heavy. WAY to many effects.

You'll be proven very wrong after it's an enormous hit.

Haha ok buddy?

If Better is an enormous hit? (top 5 mainstream) I will promise to never log on to the internet again.

can't wait.

[Mattattack]

Axl needs a "Hey Ya" is what you're trying to say. 

[BLS-Pride]

For those who

Before you guys start accusing me of Axl bashing I'd like to state that I love Better and i think it's a kick ass song but I'm just saying it's not going to come near to what you guys are expecting it to.

A reunited Guns couldn't release a top 5 hit these days. There is no chance.
Rock N' Roll is dead when it comes to mainstream radio.

thanx for stating the obvious 

but who on this board lidtens to mainstreem radio??

Thats why Godsmack, Disturbed, and a few others debuted at number one eh? Rock isn't dead.