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« on: May 24, 2006, 10:49:06 PM »
As most people know Wal-Mart refuses to sell music with explicit lyrics. They say this policy is based on "family values" and such... If that's the case, why do they sell movies that are rated R? If they were really concerned about selling family safe products would they sell Final Destination 3 and Brokeback Mountain? Why don't they just change their policy to not sell CDs with explicit lyrics to anyone under 16? or 18? or whatever. Anyway, that has always pissed me off.

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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2006, 10:54:21 PM »
Yeah I think that is dumb they don't sell cd's with explict lyrics. I still say if you don't like it don't buy it and just have to watch what their kids buy. Oh I think I heard on the news last week that some or maybe all Wal-Mart were not going to sell Brokeback Mountain.  Undecided
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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2006, 10:57:30 PM »
I think it has to do with sales. They know that the majority of music buyers are under 18. So they want to make sure that they can sell all those cds. Having the explicit label may hinder the sales process in their minds. I think that's the reason for selling the music pre-edited.
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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2006, 11:02:59 PM »
Quote from: journey on May 24, 2006, 10:57:30 PM
I think it has to do with sales. They know that the majority of music buyers are under 18. So they want to make sure that they can sell all those cds. Having the explicit label may hinder the sales process in their minds. I think that's the reason for selling the music pre-edited.

Actually, I think it's just the opposite. I think more kids would buy music from Wal-Mart if they had both edited and explicit music to choose from (as most big stores do). Like I said, they can get around their "moral" dilemma by putting age restrictions on the purchase of CDs with explicit lyrics. They already check ID of people that buy DVDs that are rated R. As for Brokeback Mountain, I haven't heard if certain stores will be selling it or not. Their website has it for sale though.

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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2006, 11:24:12 PM »
Quote from: TheRaven on May 24, 2006, 11:02:59 PM
I think more kids would buy music from Wal-Mart if they had both edited and explicit music to choose from. They already check ID of people that buy DVDs that are rated R.

Well they (kids under 18) wouldn't be able to purchase those explicit cds even if the store provided them.

It's not a moral dilemma , it's a money issue. Their current system seems to be very profitable, so I don't see them changing it.

I don't agree with it. They're a corporate company, so it's to be expected.
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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2006, 11:29:12 PM »
The walmart here sells appetite and its not censored or anything...
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« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2006, 12:07:10 AM »
They get pissy about naughty words yet break labor laws, and take out peasant insurance on their workers. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2006, 01:50:59 AM »
Yeah, I remember buying Live Era from Wal-Mart years ago and being so pissed because everything Axl says is censored?crying
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« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2006, 09:26:20 AM »
So they would sell guns, not the band but actual guns and not cds, compact discs not the other disc.
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« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2006, 09:32:15 AM »
It was, actually, because of pressure from the government (or, rather, certain members of our governemnt) that was the original impetus behind the change in policy.  They "bowed" to the pressure and forged some sort of agreement to not carry the explicit lyrics versions of CD's.  No such pressure has really come to bear in relation to DVD's (with the exception of the occasional outcry over specific movies like The Last Temptation of Chirst, Brokeback Mountain, and some others).

I've always wondered, but have no proof, if Wal-Mart brokered some of the rather favorable legislation that's gone their way as part of that agreement.
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« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2006, 01:20:00 PM »
They're selling Brokeback Mountain over at my Wal-Mart...

But, it is pretty stupid they some/all aren't selling cd's with explicit lyrics.
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« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2006, 01:28:53 PM »
They don't even sell metal. Not even Nightwish, Power Quest, or other happy bands. I couldn't even find a single punk album at the Wal-Mart where I live. Blink 182 doesn't count. They have LOADS of country music, though. It's all country, gospel, and radio friendly pop.

I took my gift certificate (only reason why I was there) and bought a copy of Doom 3 instead. Hmm...
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« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2006, 01:30:35 PM »
Quote from: Markus Asraelius on May 25, 2006, 01:20:00 PM
They're selling Brokeback Mountain over at my Wal-Mart...


No, I know they sell it.

What I meant was that Walmart doesn't see the complaining/pressure about selling R rated DVD's that they saw when selling the explicit lyrics. ?Instead, they see complaining (usually from specific special interest groups) about selling specific DVD's, but they don't bow to those complaints.

Sorry...I wasn't as clear as I should have been.
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« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2006, 01:41:17 PM »
Quote from: pilferk on May 25, 2006, 09:32:15 AM
It was, actually, because of pressure from the government (or, rather, certain members of our governemnt) that was the original impetus behind the change in policy. 

Some of us may even be old enough to remember watching Dee Snider fight Tipper on the 7 O'clock news........(cough cough)
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« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2006, 01:42:17 PM »
Quote from: pilferk on May 25, 2006, 01:30:35 PM
Quote from: Markus Asraelius on May 25, 2006, 01:20:00 PM
They're selling Brokeback Mountain over at my Wal-Mart...


No, I know they sell it.

What I meant was that Walmart doesn't see the complaining/pressure about selling R rated DVD's that they saw when selling the explicit lyrics. ?Instead, they see complaining (usually from specific special interest groups) about selling specific DVD's, but they don't bow to those complaints.

Sorry...I wasn't as clear as I should have been.

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I will now set the coordinates for the next wave of missles to launch at your local wal-mart store.
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« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2006, 01:46:16 PM »
Wal Mart is the great destroyer of small town America.  I would rather spend dollars more on items than to go there to save money on the backs of the poor. A few years ago they wouldn't sell a Sheryl Crow disc that had zero profanity but she criticized them for selling guns.  They have bowed to pressure from the Christian Right.  Go toTarget or K Mart they don't censor.
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« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2006, 01:50:19 PM »
Quote from: Kujjo on May 25, 2006, 01:41:17 PM


Some of us may even be old enough to remember watching Dee Snider fight Tipper on the 7 O'clock news........(cough cough)

That's just fucking eerie.

That was the PRECISE image that was floating through my head when I posted.....

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« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2006, 01:55:14 PM »
Quote from: Markus Asraelius on May 25, 2006, 01:42:17 PM

No Problem, batman.

I will now set the coordinates for the next wave of missles to launch at your local wal-mart store.

No need, no need.

We shop at WalMart every week.

Cheap diapers, among other things.

I'm not one of those that is a huge WalMark hater.  I shop there without any problems.  They're a reflection of a true capitalistic business at work, so I have a hard time taking their business practices as personal insults.  It's hard to blame THEM for offering goods people want at prices they want to pay...that's WalMart's sole purpose, after all.  They're a corporation.  They make money...
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« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2006, 01:59:50 PM »
Quote from: pilferk on May 25, 2006, 01:50:19 PM


That's just fucking eerie.

That was the PRECISE image that was floating through my head when I posted.....

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« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2006, 02:01:07 PM »
Quote from: pilferk on May 25, 2006, 01:55:14 PM


I'm not one of those that is a huge WalMark hater.  I shop there without any problems.  They're a reflection of a true capitalistic business at work, so I have a hard time taking their business practices as personal insults.  It's hard to blame THEM for offering goods people want at prices they want to pay...that's WalMart's sole purpose, after all.  They're a corporation.  They make money...



I am not a big fan of walmart, but I have to wonder how much the keep market prices down as a whole.
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