US Tour dates announced in a few weeks

[w.axl.rose]

no dylan. los angeles 

[Chief]

completely agree here.. keep demand high and don't risk having shows that are way undersold.  play only more major-ish markets first for sure....

I hope they make back to the states in the fall, Come to Ohio Axl.

I gotta assume there'll be several Ohio stops. I'm guessing at least Columbus and Cleavland plus maybe Cincinatti (sp?). But here in Michigan I'm sure we'll only get one stop at the most!

I doubt it.  I would expect one Ohio show, if any, in Cleveland.  I don't think they are going to make the same mistake they did in 2002--which was booking way too many shows.  If I was GNR, I would hit the largest regional centers.   I think, they should play Philly, Chicago, Seatle, LA, Miami, NY, Dallas, Atlanta, San Francisco, Las Vegas, and Denver.  If they book dates in secondary markets like Minneapolis, KC, Phoenix, St. Louis, it should be in theatres like the Hammerstein--and maybe book two nights in the larger cities of those markets. 

If they tour the U.S., they better ensure that they keep demand high, unlike 2002 where there were too many dates and seats to choose from.  Just my two cents.

[russtcb]

completely agree here.. keep demand high and don't risk having shows that are way undersold.  play only more major-ish markets first for sure....

I hope they make back to the states in the fall, Come to Ohio Axl.

I gotta assume there'll be several Ohio stops. I'm guessing at least Columbus and Cleavland plus maybe Cincinatti (sp?). But here in Michigan I'm sure we'll only get one stop at the most!

I doubt it.  I would expect one Ohio show, if any, in Cleveland.  I don't think they are going to make the same mistake they did in 2002--which was booking way too many shows.  If I was GNR, I would hit the largest regional centers.   I think, they should play Philly, Chicago, Seatle, LA, Miami, NY, Dallas, Atlanta, San Francisco, Las Vegas, and Denver.  If they book dates in secondary markets like Minneapolis, KC, Phoenix, St. Louis, it should be in theatres like the Hammerstein--and maybe book two nights in the larger cities of those markets. 

If they tour the U.S., they better ensure that they keep demand high, unlike 2002 where there were too many dates and seats to choose from.  Just my two cents.

In 2002 they had no new goods to promote. Most of the people coming out were people who didn't even know it was a new band or people coming out of curiosity. The size of the tour will depend largly on when CD comes out and how well it's doing at that point I would imagine.

[nygiants82]

completely agree here.. keep demand high and don't risk having shows that are way undersold.? play only more major-ish markets first for sure....

I hope they make back to the states in the fall, Come to Ohio Axl.

I gotta assume there'll be several Ohio stops. I'm guessing at least Columbus and Cleavland plus maybe Cincinatti (sp?). But here in Michigan I'm sure we'll only get one stop at the most!

I doubt it.? I would expect one Ohio show, if any, in Cleveland.? I don't think they are going to make the same mistake they did in 2002--which was booking way too many shows.? If I was GNR, I would hit the largest regional centers.? ?I think, they should play Philly, Chicago, Seatle, LA, Miami, NY, Dallas, Atlanta, San Francisco, Las Vegas, and Denver.? If they book dates in secondary markets like Minneapolis, KC, Phoenix, St. Louis, it should be in theatres like the Hammerstein--and maybe book two nights in the larger cities of those markets.?

If they tour the U.S., they better ensure that they keep demand high, unlike 2002 where there were too many dates and seats to choose from.? Just my two cents.

In 2002 they had no new goods to promote. Most of the people coming out were people who didn't even know it was a new band or people coming out of curiosity. The size of the tour will depend largly on when CD comes out and how well it's doing at that point I would imagine.

With a cd out, they will do fine in the second tier venues. If Poison can do it, GNR sure as hell can!

[Minneapolisnewsman]

Poison doesn't do it alone, and it's a cheap ticket, and billed as a vegas-type/county fair like spectacle.  This year it's Poison, Cinderella, and some other band.  Personally, I would take Cinderella over Poison any day of the week.

[jsg2295]

Texas will get at least three shows because we are such awesome rocking MFers.

[axlroses]

I think they should play major markets first, but start out in smaller venues like the warfield or fillmore in San Francisco.  Once they do well on this first round of dates, and the album(hopefully) is out they can move to the larger venues.

[duga]

Texas will get at least three shows because we are such awesome rocking MFers.

And don't forget you have the Bush guy 

[SINSHINE]

Texas will get at least three shows because we are such awesome rocking MFers.

And don't forget you have the Bush guy?

LOL...yeah, and we all know Cheney's a big guns fan, too! 

[jsg2295]

Texas will get at least three shows because we are such awesome rocking MFers.

And don't forget you have the Bush guy?

LOL...yeah, and we all know Cheney's a big guns fan, too!?

And Cheney luvs lesbians...just like Axl!!!!!

[Minneapolisnewsman]

Poison, Cinderell... guys are you crazy? these are lame hair metal has-been 80's bands. GNR deserve much much better to tour with.

What are you talking about?  People mentioned that the current Poison/Cinderella, double-headlining tour was selling fairly well.  That's it.

[Saul Isobel]

Poison, Cinderell... guys are you crazy? these are lame hair metal has-been 80's bands. GNR deserve much much better to tour with.

What are you talking about?? People mentioned that the current Poison/Cinderella, double-headlining tour was selling fairly well.? That's it.

You guys should watch a movie called This is Spinal Tap - that's where Cinderella/Poison are at!

Two points. This isn't 1987-93. Nu-Guns are not neccesarily gonna play arenas b/c of the past glories. It all depends on record sales and fan interest. There is 13 years of lost ground to make up. Things are VERY different now.

Secondly, as i pointed out in another thread, the only bands opening for G'n'R will be those whose record companies are willing to pay the biggest amount of money to 'buy on' to the tour. That's how it works these days. Alas the days of NIN, Soundgarden and Skid Row being invited to tour b/c Guns like them are long gone.

[russtcb]

completely agree here.. keep demand high and don't risk having shows that are way undersold.  play only more major-ish markets first for sure....

I hope they make back to the states in the fall, Come to Ohio Axl.

I gotta assume there'll be several Ohio stops. I'm guessing at least Columbus and Cleavland plus maybe Cincinatti (sp?). But here in Michigan I'm sure we'll only get one stop at the most!

I doubt it.  I would expect one Ohio show, if any, in Cleveland.  I don't think they are going to make the same mistake they did in 2002--which was booking way too many shows.  If I was GNR, I would hit the largest regional centers.   I think, they should play Philly, Chicago, Seatle, LA, Miami, NY, Dallas, Atlanta, San Francisco, Las Vegas, and Denver.  If they book dates in secondary markets like Minneapolis, KC, Phoenix, St. Louis, it should be in theatres like the Hammerstein--and maybe book two nights in the larger cities of those markets. 

If they tour the U.S., they better ensure that they keep demand high, unlike 2002 where there were too many dates and seats to choose from.  Just my two cents.

In 2002 they had no new goods to promote. Most of the people coming out were people who didn't even know it was a new band or people coming out of curiosity. The size of the tour will depend largly on when CD comes out and how well it's doing at that point I would imagine.

With a cd out, they will do fine in the second tier venues. If Poison can do it, GNR sure as hell can!

I don't understand why people post non informed shit like this. Most of the Poison/Cinderella Tour is booked into regular size summer tour venues not "second tier" ones. Second, I don't think anyone on the planet regards GNR (in any incarnation) as being on the same level with Cinderella or Poison.

The CD being out has nothing to do with the size venue they play. The success of the CD after it's released will be the deciding factor.

[nygiants82]

completely agree here.. keep demand high and don't risk having shows that are way undersold.? play only more major-ish markets first for sure....

I hope they make back to the states in the fall, Come to Ohio Axl.

I gotta assume there'll be several Ohio stops. I'm guessing at least Columbus and Cleavland plus maybe Cincinatti (sp?). But here in Michigan I'm sure we'll only get one stop at the most!

I doubt it.? I would expect one Ohio show, if any, in Cleveland.? I don't think they are going to make the same mistake they did in 2002--which was booking way too many shows.? If I was GNR, I would hit the largest regional centers.? ?I think, they should play Philly, Chicago, Seatle, LA, Miami, NY, Dallas, Atlanta, San Francisco, Las Vegas, and Denver.? If they book dates in secondary markets like Minneapolis, KC, Phoenix, St. Louis, it should be in theatres like the Hammerstein--and maybe book two nights in the larger cities of those markets.?

If they tour the U.S., they better ensure that they keep demand high, unlike 2002 where there were too many dates and seats to choose from.? Just my two cents.

In 2002 they had no new goods to promote. Most of the people coming out were people who didn't even know it was a new band or people coming out of curiosity. The size of the tour will depend largly on when CD comes out and how well it's doing at that point I would imagine.

With a cd out, they will do fine in the second tier venues. If Poison can do it, GNR sure as hell can!

I don't understand why people post non informed shit like this. Most of the Poison/Cinderella Tour is booked into regular size summer tour venues not "second tier" ones. Second, I don't think anyone on the planet regards GNR (in any incarnation) as being on the same level with Cinderella or Poison.

The CD being out has nothing to do with the size venue they play. The success of the CD after it's released will be the deciding factor.

Thats not what I was saying! Sheesh... What I was referring to is where some people were saying GNR should only play major cities like NYC, LA, Chicago, etc. They could play the places that Poison is playing as well, which would include smaller cities. They just couldnt do the whole ampitheatre thing obviously because of the weather. And I certainly wasnt trying to put Poison on the same level as GNR. I really didnt think that I would have to even specifically say that.

Does that make it more clear?

[chineseblues]

Poison, Cinderell... guys are you crazy? these are lame hair metal has-been 80's bands. GNR deserve much much better to tour with.

What are you talking about?  People mentioned that the current Poison/Cinderella, double-headlining tour was selling fairly well.  That's it.

You guys should watch a movie called This is Spinal Tap - that's where Cinderella/Poison are at!

Two points. This isn't 1987-93. Nu-Guns are not neccesarily gonna play arenas b/c of the past glories. It all depends on record sales and fan interest. There is 13 years of lost ground to make up. Things are VERY different now.

Secondly, as i pointed out in another thread, the only bands opening for G'n'R will be those whose record companies are willing to pay the biggest amount of money to 'buy on' to the tour. That's how it works these days. Alas the days of NIN, Soundgarden and Skid Row being invited to tour b/c Guns like them are long gone.

No youre wrong as usual. Sebastian Bach has allready been offered the chance to tour with guns later this year. He said so himself. And he is only on Spitfire records, who arent gonna pay huge $$$ to have him tour. The reason he was offered the spot is because Axl wants him there. Thats pretty plain to see.

[IFINGLOVEGNR]

Anyone know how much BFMV had to pay for just those four NY shows?

[Minneapolisnewsman]

Anyone know how much BFMV had to pay for just those four NY shows?

Nothing, they are on one of Sanctuary's European labels.

[Mal Brossard]

Texas will get at least three shows because we are such awesome rocking MFers.

Dallas, Houston, and PLEASE GOD-- Wichita Falls.  I know there's no way in hell the latter will happen, but I can dream, can't I?

[Saul Isobel]

No youre wrong as usual.

As usual? Please direct me to any previous points where i've been proven wrong... ?

Sebastian Bach has allready been offered the chance to tour with guns later this year.

Baz says a lot of things, he's a well known motormouth. Show me the CONFIRMED dates when the tour is announced then i will gladly concede that point. However, IF Baz and his band open for Axl it will most likely be in lesser markets or his home country,Canada, or as part of a three band bill. There is no reason why any major act would clammer to take Baz on an extended tour - as you stated yourself he can't even get a major record deal these days - he's a nostalgia act now. I saw him live in the UK last year in a three quarters empty theatre and the music was dated and the show was cheesy. Every dog has its day he had his. ?

[veritas55]

Based on the 2002 tour, GnR can fill an arena in major markets (Chicago, NY, Boston, Toronto, Philadelphia, and probably LA, Atlanta, SF, Dallas, etc) and probably need to play 5,000-to-8,000 seaters in so-called secondary markets (which include Seattle, Fargo, Boise, etc.).  If the album lands with any success, they could fill arenas in all markets.  But it doesn't look like the album will drop before the US tour begins in September-ish.