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« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2006, 08:15:25 PM »

Songs they should play in my opnion are:
Dont Cry
Civil War
Estranged
Coma

Heeeeellllll no!

That's Slash's song!

I do definitely agree with the three others. Those 4 are easily 4 of my favourite GN'R songs but they seriously cannot play Coma. That would really piss on Slash's legacy in GN'R and its something I'm totally against.

They Play Sweet Child O' Mine.
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« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2006, 08:18:17 PM »

Songs they should play in my opnion are:
Dont Cry
Civil War
Estranged
Coma

Heeeeellllll no!

That's Slash's song!

I do definitely agree with the three others. Those 4 are easily 4 of my favourite GN'R songs but they seriously cannot play Coma. That would really piss on Slash's legacy in GN'R and its something I'm totally against.

They Play Sweet Child O' Mine.

So?
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« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2006, 08:47:37 PM »

I forgot where I read this, but there was an article in 02 about Estranged.  I remember in the article Axl said that Estranged would never be played in concert again due to Slash not being in the band. I believe that I read it on this website.
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« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2006, 09:14:43 PM »

axl said something in the trunk interview about not liking the trilogy videos anymore...i think he plays some of the songs for the fans...november rain he has to play...and i think the new band picked songs that they liked playing "think about you"...etc...but i imagine by the fall we'll be getting less old stuff, the euro tour will be variations on what was played in new york...and when they get back to the us, we'll get a single before the album and some more new songs...thats the best bet i believe
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« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2006, 09:19:41 PM »

They simply can't pull some songs off. You'll probably never hear nuGNR (or old, if they re-unite) play songs like Coma, Estranged, Breakdown, Civil War (this one you may hear at some point in the future, but also doubtful) or Locomotive. They're just too hard, and even the old band didn't always do a great job with them live.
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« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2006, 09:20:19 PM »

I'd like to see them play Locomotive or Pretty Tied Up
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« Reply #26 on: May 20, 2006, 09:26:50 PM »

can I just ask a question to be answered honestly, why does everyone like Coma so much?  Estranged is my all time favorite song by any band, and whenever a "what songs should they play" debate starts, 99% of the people want Coma and Estranged...but why Coma?  I cant get into it.  I think the speaking samples take away from the song, I think a lot of the lyrics arent Axls best and its longer than it needs to be.  Now Im not saying this just to start a fight and I feel like im in the minority here, but if anyone can tell me why they really like Coma that would be great just so maybe I can understand better.   thanks.
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« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2006, 09:28:02 PM »

Just to confirm: Estranged is an AXL song NOT an Izzy song. It says it right there in the UYI booklet.
Pretty Tied Up would be cool to hear live again but that is an Izzy song.
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« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2006, 09:28:44 PM »

They simply can't pull some songs off. You'll probably never hear nuGNR (or old, if they re-unite) play songs like Coma, Estranged, Breakdown, Civil War (this one you may hear at some point in the future, but also doubtful) or Locomotive. They're just too hard, and even the old band didn't always do a great job with them live.

no gnr song is 'too hard' to play live. ?that's a bullshit excuse. ?give me a break...
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« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2006, 09:31:11 PM »

while we're on this topic, is there any song that has never been played live?  perhaps 'my world'?
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« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2006, 09:34:10 PM »

while we're on this topic, is there any song that has never been played live?? perhaps 'my world'?

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« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2006, 09:34:45 PM »

They simply can't pull some songs off. You'll probably never hear nuGNR (or old, if they re-unite) play songs like Coma, Estranged, Breakdown, Civil War (this one you may hear at some point in the future, but also doubtful) or Locomotive. They're just too hard, and even the old band didn't always do a great job with them live.

no gnr song is 'too hard' to play live. ?that's a bullshit excuse. ?give me a break...

yeah, because we've never heard anything that has made it look like nuGNR can't pull some songs off. Roll Eyes Finck and BH used to butcher Slash work all the time. 10 minutes is a lot of chords to memorize, the vocal range if tough for Axl at this age and state. Estranged and Coma need a guitar player like Slash or else they'd sound bad.
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« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2006, 09:35:14 PM »

the live version of estranged on Live 87-93 sounds awesome.

It would be awesome if it were really live. Axl's vocals were rerecorded and if you listen closely there's no Gilby.

So it preety much sucks, although Slash was awesome on it
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« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2006, 09:36:22 PM »



yeah, because we've never heard anything that has made it look like nuGNR can't pull some songs off. Roll Eyes Finck and BH used to butcher Slash work all the time. 10 minutes is a lot of chords to memorize, the vocal range if tough for Axl at this age and state. Estranged and Coma need a guitar player like Slash or else they'd sound bad.

Thats bullshit, Coma doesnt have that many chords, and Estranged has like 5

So it's not an excuse. The problem really is the lenght of these songs.. If you play November rain you can't play Estranged or Coma
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« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2006, 09:36:36 PM »

while we're on this topic, is there any song that has never been played live?  perhaps 'my world'?

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« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2006, 09:38:40 PM »

while we're on this topic, is there any song that has never been played live?  perhaps 'my world'?

Don't damn me, which is a shame, since it's an awesome song

I think Get in The Ring and Shotgun Blues too


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« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2006, 09:40:06 PM »


Thats bullshit, Coma doesnt have that many chords, and Estranged has like 5


there are 22 different chords used in coma..... so yeah there's not that many chords at all really are there.....

it's a 10 minute song with virtually no repeats. not easy to learn at all.

and estranged has 9.
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« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2006, 09:42:14 PM »

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Finck and BH used to butcher Slash work all the time.

LOL.

Bucket's work in 2001-2002 was solid. Sorry to disagree with you.
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« Reply #38 on: May 20, 2006, 09:43:07 PM »

I love Coma
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« Reply #39 on: May 20, 2006, 09:43:29 PM »


Thats bullshit, Coma doesnt have that many chords, and Estranged has like 5

the band needed a score to play coma, it;s a 10 minute song with virtually no repeats. not easy to learn at all.

Thank you alan. Eduardo, think before you type buddy. They're HARD songs to play. Plus the solos in those would be tough to hand to Bumble since he just joined, and I'm not sure Finck or Fortus are quite good enough for them.
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