New Gn'r playin' other UYI songs... time to give up?

[Neemo]

we may see don't cry if izzy shows....thats bout it....

[Jim Bob]

Some of those illusion songs there simply isn't room for

Of course there is room for them... IF the band doesn't play the exact same songs every night.  If they want to put on an exciting show (which they should be doing considering the ticket prices), then the setlist should be a little unpredictable.  So maybe you drop November Rain one show and play Civil War instead... maybe instead of Jungle being the opening song (or even being played), you play Perfect Crime.

These setlists are BORING!  Ok, it was exciting on the first show that they played the leaks, but the rest of the show was exactly the same as 2002.  The setlist for the 14th was even worse... it is way too predictable.  Some of the setlist suggestions on these boards have rules about "how many songs should be played from each album", "what percent of material needs to be new for the band to be credible", etc., etc.... That totally sucks the fun out of a "live concert".

The problem is, the band has so much material from the 3 albums they are working on recording, they can only be good on so much of the old stuff.   Like how the band was good on about 31 songs for the illusions tour and they picked some songs randomly each night, thats about how much material this band has to stay sharp on.

I dont find the setlists boring at all.  Its a GNR show man, they are going to play a lot of the classic appetite stuff that the fans want to hear.

[RoCoKiN]

I don't think we will be hearing estranged anytime soon unless Robin has been working on it for awhile.  It is a very difficult song and I remember Dizzy saying that when they first started playing it they'd have this little prayer: "Please let us get through Estranged"  Unless Robin is able to make his guitar feedback like Slash did I don't think Axl is going to want to ruin it just for the sake of playing it. I'd love to hear it but I don't want to hear a half assed version of it either.

[Walapino]

If Axl only plans on playing the leaks from now until CD is out then he should take more advantage of the old catalog and mix it up a bit before he has to make room for the new songs and drop some old. Its just boring he is playing basically the same set as in 2002. Lets see what suprise da rose has for us tonight, if any.

[Back Off Bitch]

We won't hear that stuff I want Don't Cry, Civil War, Right Next Door To Hell, Locomotive, Breakdown, Back Off Bitch, Estranged, Coma...

[badapple81]

Yeah I thought maybe if they play a shorter set, there may be one or two Illusion surprises in there.

I'd like Locomotive, Back Off Bitch, Civil War or Estranged! maybe some Yesterdays! I'd be happy to drop LALD for it too.

Still, many shows to go!

[ARC]

These setlists are BORING! ?Ok, it was exciting on the first show that they played the leaks, but the rest of the show was exactly the same as 2002. ?The setlist for the 14th was even worse... it is way too predictable. ?Some of the setlist suggestions on these boards have rules about "how many songs should be played from each album", "what percent of material needs to be new for the band to be credible", etc., etc.... That totally sucks the fun out of a "live concert".

Umm... I think every single person in the Hammerstein had plenty of "fun".

I think some people are forgetting that these are WARM UP SHOWS. And how does one warm up...? By playing what you know.

Geez... will you let the band get moving before you start requesting songs in the set that haven't been played for fifteen years... ?

[dave_guns]

i don't think they'll ever play anything off UYI that they haven't already played.  it seems like that's a period axl would rather forget.

[EccoTides]

i don't think they'll ever play anything off UYI that they haven't already played.  it seems like that's a period axl would rather forget.

That's exactly what I've been thinking - To a lot of fans, the UYI records are great (I count don't myself among them though - I only like about 9 tracks of the 30 total on the UYIs), but it's no secret that Axl wasn't satisfied with how they turned out in the end.

[Eazy E]

I think some people are forgetting that these are WARM UP SHOWS. And how does one warm up...? By playing what you know.

Geez... will you let the band get moving before you start requesting songs in the set that haven't been played for fifteen years... ?

I know it may be a slow process for a band to learn and practice some new songs to put into a set, but as the poster below you pointed out, they aren't giving off the impression that they have any intention to introduce any new UYI songs into their setlist.

They've had 4 years off and are only introducing 1-3 different songs in their concerts? ?I wish I could say that I REALLY want to be in New York right now to catch these shows, but the truth is, I've seen it already in 2002.

Agreed it's just a warm-up, so I'll reserve my judgement on their setlist until the tour is in full swing... but it just doesn't feel like they're going to introduce anymore of the band's back catalogue. ?If that's the case and they're going to gradually phase out the old material and just play a few hits in a set made of mostly new material, then why call themselves Guns N' Roses? ?You could just hit the road with the new album and do 4-5 old GN'R covers (similar to VR). ?

I'm fine with Axl keeping the name and since he is doing that, I would hope that the band would play a varied setlist that includes some of the great songs the fans want to hear but appear to be buried right now. ?Especially considering how much talent this band has...

Oasis does the same thing playing the same setlist every night and I think it's really lame.

[guscouto]

different opinions, but as far as I noticed, i think most of the people would like to hear more UYI songs ... Axl, if you read this, Please play Civil War, Estranged, Don't Cry ..one of them!

Of course i love hearing the new songs, they're great and they're their compositions! They must feel great playin them ... but old Guns fans deserve to hear more UYI songs ... that's my opinion... i find it difficult to happen, but it would be AWESOME !!

[guscouto]

I don't think we will be hearing estranged anytime soon unless Robin has been working on it for awhile.? It is a very difficult song and I remember Dizzy saying that when they first started playing it they'd have this little prayer: "Please let us get through Estranged"? Unless Robin is able to make his guitar feedback like Slash did I don't think Axl is going to want to ruin it just for the sake of playing it. I'd love to hear it but I don't want to hear a half assed version of it either.

Come on man, do you play guitar? Estranged is not that hard to play ... it's a very complex songs, and one of the most beautiful Slash's compositions, but Fink has definately the technique to play it!

[oneway23]

It's not presumptuous to think that what we've got is what we've got.  Not expecting much different from this until CD is out.

[Mandy.]

I would do anything to hear Pretty Tied Up played live in London 

[JAC185]

I figured if it were to happen, they would drop in a random UYI track every now and then to help mix it up abit once they were established, the album is out and they are on a GNR show section of the tour, not festivals, perhaps when they do a proper US tour

[crossfire]

I've seen an interview somewhere (possibly in Behind The Music) while they were recording UYI and axl was saying how he didn't wanna live his life through Appetite (for Destruction), he wanted to bury that album and move on? when i first saw the setlist for the 2002 tour seemed like it was the opposite (i mean 10 out of 12 songs from that album). Kinda like Metallica on the St.Anger tour, got to the point where they dropped all St.Anger songs from the setlist on the last few shows of the St.Anger/Madly in Anger with u tour and were playing more Black Album songs than ever, weird

one or 2 more Illusions songs wouldn't hurt would it ? (out of the 3 there playing, KOHD, LALD and November Rain, 2 of them are covers)

o well can't afford to be picky, just happy to have em back regardless of what they play

[gilee7]

They've been playing "You Could Be Mine," too; that's a UYI song. And I don't really see why it should matter who wrote most of the song or not; I mean, isn't "It's So Easy" a Duff song?

I was wondering if the similar setlists might be because of Bumblefoot. He's only been in the band for like a week or two, right?? Maybe he's not comfortable playing some of the other tunes yet; maybe he doesn't fully know them.

Or maybe Axl feels that people just want to hear AFD stuff. Although if that was the case, he should at least throw "Think About You" and "Anything Goes" and "You're Crazy" in there from time to time.

Also, all these DVD rumors might be the cause of it. Same songs. Same clothes. Who knows?

The setlist for the NY shows will probably remain the same for most of the upcoming concerts. I mean, songs like "WTTJ" and "Sweet Child O'Mine" and "Paradise City" will always be played. Same thing goes for "November Rain" and "Patience." I think the band will play more UYI in the future, but AFD songs will always be played a whole lot more.

[Neemo]

They've been playing "You Could Be Mine," too; that's a UYI song.

yeah and no.....YCBM was kicking around before appetite...check the afd liner notes


and NR was a work in progress on forever