New Gn'r playin' other UYI songs... time to give up?

[crazyfool]

I think you MAY hear some of those songs sometime down the road. ?I wouldn't expect it anytime soon though. ?I think they're focussing on the new songs and the list from 2002 until the band becomes a cohesive unit. ?Once that happens they may be able to experiment a bit.

I hope so....one thing seems to be sure. ?While the new band has done an admirable job with the songs they are performing, there are definately classic Guns tunes that are not in their current repitore. ?

[nesquick]

thats why i liked fridays set better.

these guys need to establish an  identity as a band.

Absolutely.

[kunzerd]

in 02.

Do you have the link to where I could read that because I have never heard Axl mention Don't Cry in 2002 or any recent years.

i couldnt tell you exactly from where, but i do know that other board members heard it as well and are familiar with the incident (people at one of the shows were requesting dont cry, and the 'sorry, thats an izzy song' was his response, thats partially why people think that an izzy appearance will lead to dont cry being played at hammerstein).

[crazyfool]

thats why i liked fridays set better.

these guys need to establish an? identity as a band.

Absolutely.

But it's supposed to be Guns n Roses though right? ?Isn't that what Axl is calling it? ?If their focus was on establishing themselves as a band i wish they would have called it somethng else other than GNR. ?

[Will]

No, it's not.

Technically, it' still a shame, because I did say beforehand: "To me,..."

I like when they play Better, the Blues, Madagascar, Twat, IRS etc... you know, their own songs. It's too easy to make money on other people's songs....way too easy.

Right. Is that why they played 10 out of 12 songs from AFD and this year 8 out of 12 or so? I love when they play new songs, but don't tell me anyone on this board wouldn't like to hear Breakdown, Don't Damn Me, Back Off Bitch or Don't Cry instead of Out Ta Get Me or Live And Let Die or something...

[kunzerd]

i would like to hear a couple of those, but id really like to see the new music start to take over the set list. not totally, but 9 from AFD, 1 from lies, 4 from USI and 6 new songs felt like a really great cross section of the catalogue/

[nesquick]

well, I would say it depends on what kind of songs. Some songs like "Estranged" are too connected to the old band. Some others are "neutral". For exemple "it's so easy" is neutral, old Gnr, VR or newGNR this song is neutral and works great for all these bands. However, to make justice to a song like "Estranged", Axl and Slash must be there. BOTH of them. They just make one in that song.

[kunzerd]

i dont know, after hearing robin on friday, ive almost forgotten who slash was.

[AxlsMainMan]

These are only warm up shows.

Im very confident more Illusions songs will surface in due time, but yes, I think it's time to forget about songs like Coma, and Coma although Id take those songs over any of the Illusion material Axl's chosen to play for these shows so far..

[GNR IRU?A]

After these two first shows, do you think it's time for us to forget about the new band palying Civil War, Estranged, Don't Cry, etc ... ??

I really would like to hear them playin' those songs, but i'm starting to lose hope ...

Nevermind, as long as TWAT and Better are played and the hits from AFD !

i agree with you; i would like to listen Don?t Cry and Estranged

[crazyfool]

i dont know, after hearing robin on friday, ive almost forgotten who slash was.

let me remind you...he's the guy who wrote most of that stuff Robin was playing ?

[crazyfool]

well, I would say it depends on what kins of songs. Some songs like "Estranged" are too connected to the old band. Some others are "neutral". For exemple "it's so easy" is neutral, old Gnr, VR or newGNR this song is neutral and works great for all these bands. However, to make justice to a song like "Estranged", Axl and Slash must be there. BOTH of them. They just make one in that song.

as much as i'd like to see this Guns band expand their repitoire, i agree with you here...

[kunzerd]

i dont know, after hearing robin on friday, ive almost forgotten who slash was.

let me remind you...he's the guy who wrote most of that stuff Robin was playing ?

you know what i meant.

[crazyfool]

i dont know, after hearing robin on friday, ive almost forgotten who slash was.

let me remind you...he's the guy who wrote most of that stuff Robin was playing ?

you know what i meant.

yeah, and i will be honest...i was VERY impressed with Robin this weekend. His playing was outstanding, he has a great stage presence, you can tell he's invested in the band and really into the songs they are playing old or new. 

But nobody is every going to make forget about Slash or wish that he wasn;t still in the band.  I'll give you this...my ultimate Guns lineup now consists of Axl, Slash, duff, Matt, and Robin 

[kunzerd]

i might pick brain over matt.

but more from rock in rio than these warm ups.  he was amazing at RIR but in the warm ups some of the power isnt there.
dont know why

[crazyfool]

i might pick brain over matt.

but more from rock in rio than these warm ups.? he was amazing at RIR but in the warm ups some of the power isnt there.
dont know why

Yeah, I had heard such amazing things abour Brain but was underwhelmed by him  this weekend.  And sometimes he deviates a little from the original beats and fills that were recorded on the old albums....which is ok....just bothers me for some reason.  I guess i'm so used to hearing (and playing) those songs a certain way, it bugs me that he's not doing it like that!  Plus Axl's dig on Matt Friday night was really the only low point of the two shows for me. 

[dman1991]

they better play Estranged and Double Talkin' Jive, or i'm gonna go on a baby eating spree.

what the difference between a million dead babies and a ferrari?

Theres no ferrari in my garage!

[Jim Bob]

To be fair, these guys have 36 of their own songs, plus all of Appetite and 5 or so songs from the illusions and lies.  On the illusions tour the band knew like 31 songs.   Some of those illusion songs there simply isn't room for 

[GNR estranged]

i remember reading an article around 2001/2002 where axl said that he picked the set list because they were the songs that the band sounded the best playing. i think he said something like some of the other songs didnt really fit the new band's style.

[Eazy E]

Some of those illusion songs there simply isn't room for

Of course there is room for them... IF the band doesn't play the exact same songs every night. ?If they want to put on an exciting show (which they should be doing considering the ticket prices), then the setlist should be a little unpredictable. ?So maybe you drop November Rain one show and play Civil War instead... maybe instead of Jungle being the opening song (or even being played), you play Perfect Crime.

These setlists are BORING! ?Ok, it was exciting on the first show that they played the leaks, but the rest of the show was exactly the same as 2002. ?The setlist for the 14th was even worse... it is way too predictable. ?Some of the setlist suggestions on these boards have rules about "how many songs should be played from each album", "what percent of material needs to be new for the band to be credible", etc., etc.... That totally sucks the fun out of a "live concert".