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« on: May 15, 2006, 04:36:21 PM »

After these two first shows, do you think it's time for us to forget about the new band palying Civil War, Estranged, Don't Cry, etc ... ??

I really would like to hear them playin' those songs, but i'm starting to lose hope ...

Nevermind, as long as TWAT and Better are played and the hits from AFD !
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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2006, 04:37:32 PM »

i`ll wait for june 2nd to make any final judgement on the band and what they`re doing.....

(keep rio in mind as well... ok)
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« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2006, 04:38:07 PM »

they better play Estranged and Double Talkin' Jive, or i'm gonna go on a baby eating spree.
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« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2006, 04:39:42 PM »

I do worry that as well. ?I'm nervous that half of the Guns back catologue has just been simply forgotten and songs like Double talkn jive, move to the city, perfect crime, estranged, pretty tied up, locomotive, breakdown, garden of eden, will just never be learned/played by this new band. ?sad. ?

sidenote...has Don't Damn me ever been performed live at any point in the band;s history?
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« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2006, 04:41:43 PM »

I do worry that as well. ?I'm nervous that half of the Guns back catologue has just been simply forgotten and songs like Double talkn jive, move to the city, perfect crime, estranged, pretty tied up, locomotive, breakdown, garden of eden, will just never be learned/played by this new band. ?sad. ?

sidenote...has Don't Damn me ever been performed live at any point in the band;s history?

I know one thing, we will NEVER here Garden of Eden live. hihi
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« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2006, 04:42:13 PM »

Yup. It means they will never play the actual "good stuff" from the Illusions, ever again. The good stuff to me is Civil War, Estranged, Locomotive, Coma, Right Next Door To Hell, Back Off Bitch, Don't Cry, Breakdown, etc...

And to me, that is a damn shame. A damn shame.
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« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2006, 04:43:00 PM »

I do worry that as well. ?I'm nervous that half of the Guns back catologue has just been simply forgotten and songs like Double talkn jive, move to the city, perfect crime, estranged, pretty tied up, locomotive, breakdown, garden of eden, will just never be learned/played by this new band. ?sad. ?

sidenote...has Don't Damn me ever been performed live at any point in the band;s history?

No Don't Damn Me has never been played live.


And I also agree, it's a shame that some of Guns greatest songs arn't even getting played.

Civil War, Perfect Crime, Estranged, Don't Cry and all the rest of them, all of them or at least the key ones need to be resurrected live.
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« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2006, 04:43:26 PM »

I know one thing, we will NEVER here Garden of Eden live. hihi

It was played live a few times in '93.
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« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2006, 04:45:23 PM »

They definately need to show some more versatility. ?Never hearing Coma, Don't Cry, Double Talkin Jive, Civil War etc. live again would be a crime. ?this.
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« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2006, 04:47:04 PM »

the only songs i see that have a chance are:

back off bitch,
dead horse,
breakdown,
shotgun blues,
estranged,
and my world

 (i know, im naming some bad songs) i know im forgetting two or three, but these are the ones that are actually axl's.

remember, he said he wont play dont cry because its an izzy song, im pretty sure it would take heavy consideration before playing anything that belongs to slash or izzy.
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« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2006, 04:47:50 PM »

Makes me think Axl isn't crazy about the those particular songs anymore. ?Estranged had a huge impact on him when it was done live as the song is extremely personal for him.

I could be off on it - but if he still liked them, one would think we'd be hearing them live.
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« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2006, 04:49:38 PM »

the only songs i see that have a chance are:

back off bitch,
dead horse,
breakdown,
shotgun blues,
estranged,
and my world

 (i know, im naming some bad songs) i know im forgetting two or three, but these are the ones that are actually axl's.

remember, he said he wont play dont cry because its an izzy song, im pretty sure it would take heavy consideration before playing anything that belongs to slash or izzy.

when did he say he won`t play don`t cry, because it`s an izzy song???  bullshit.... he played patience.    he doesn`t just play the songs that were basically written by him dude...
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« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2006, 04:50:26 PM »

the only songs i see that have a chance are:

back off bitch,
dead horse,
breakdown,
shotgun blues,
estranged,
and my world

 (i know, im naming some bad songs) i know im forgetting two or three, but these are the ones that are actually axl's.

remember, he said he wont play dont cry because its an izzy song, im pretty sure it would take heavy consideration before playing anything that belongs to slash or izzy.

that's interesting....but i have to imagine that Slash/Izzy/Duff had a huge hand in writing some of the songs that he is performing now. ?Like Sweet Child is obviously a Slash riff even though slash hates it, and Brownstone, Jungle, It's so Easy....just a few that were at least partly written by former members. ?
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« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2006, 04:50:54 PM »

I do worry that as well. ?I'm nervous that half of the Guns back catologue has just been simply forgotten and songs like Double talkn jive, move to the city, perfect crime, estranged, pretty tied up, locomotive, breakdown, garden of eden, will just never be learned/played by this new band. ?sad. ?

sidenote...has Don't Damn me ever been performed live at any point in the band;s history?

I know one thing, we will NEVER here Garden of Eden live. hihi

I have a boot of them performing this during the Illusions tour. 
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« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2006, 04:51:18 PM »

in 02.


im not saying he only plays songs taht are only written by him, but ill bet it all depends on the amount of his involvement in it.

also, in the liner notes of UYI 2 he says estranged wouldbe nothing without slash, i assume that is why we dont hear it anymore
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« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2006, 04:52:44 PM »

the only songs i see that have a chance are:

back off bitch,
dead horse,
breakdown,
shotgun blues,
estranged,
and my world

 (i know, im naming some bad songs) i know im forgetting two or three, but these are the ones that are actually axl's.

remember, he said he wont play dont cry because its an izzy song, im pretty sure it would take heavy consideration before playing anything that belongs to slash or izzy.

that's interesting....but i have to imagine that Slash/Izzy/Duff had a huge hand in writing some of the songs that he is performing now. ?Like Sweet Child is obviously a Slash riff even though slash hates it, and Brownstone, Jungle, It's so Easy....just a few that were at least partly written by former members. ?


partly, thats my point.

remember the trunk interview where he talked about fighting with everyone to get songs done? i think that is what is kind of deciding what he plays now.
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« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2006, 04:52:58 PM »

I think you MAY hear some of those songs sometime down the road. ?I wouldn't expect it anytime soon though. ?I think they're focussing on the new songs and the list from 2002 until the band becomes a cohesive unit. ?Once that happens they may be able to experiment a bit.
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« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2006, 04:53:47 PM »

in 02.

Do you have the link to where I could read that because I have never heard Axl mention Don't Cry in 2002 or any recent years.
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« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2006, 04:54:15 PM »

Yup. It means they will never play the actual "good stuff" from the Illusions, ever again. The good stuff to me is Civil War, Estranged, Locomotive, Coma, Right Next Door To Hell, Back Off Bitch, Don't Cry, Breakdown, etc...

And to me, that is a damn shame. A damn shame.

No, it's not. It's not their stuff. I can't see the new GNR play "Estranged" for exemple, The shadow of Slash is way too big for them. It's time for them to play their own songs, not to make money on other people's songs. Or they would be seen as (only) a Karaoke band. I like when they play Better, the Blues, Madagascar, Twat, IRS etc... you know, their own songs. It's too easy to make money on other people's songs....way too easy.
They don't deserve that much glory to do that.
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« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2006, 04:55:58 PM »

thats why i liked fridays set better.

these guys need to establish an  identity as a band.
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