Guitar playing on new tracks - your opinion?

[BluesGNR]

To the demos and live versions, personally.. As for the ones that haven't been heard, i'll take them at face value.

[jmapelian]

the intro to Welcome to the Jungle, it's So easy, nighttrain, Rocket Quen, out ta Get Me, paradise City, Mr. Brownstone, et all

all grabbed you in the first 10 seconds....go ahead, listen to them again if you need to refresh your memory.....none sound anything lke Sweet Child

not 90 seconds, 2:30 mi into the song......

Please tell me I'm not the only one this makes sense to

Don't get me wrong, i like all three of the leaks........just not as much as most in the community obviosly

[Neemo]

the intro to Welcome to the Jungle, it's So easy, nighttrain, Rocket Quen, out ta Get Me, paradise City, Mr. Brownstone, et all

all grabbed you in the first 10 seconds....go ahead, listen to them again if you need to refresh your memory.....none sound anything lke Sweet Child

not 90 seconds, 2:30 mi into the song......

Please tell me I'm not the only one this makes sense to

Don't get me wrong, i like all three of the leaks........just not as much as most in the community obviosly

oh i agree, It's so easy starts with Bass though. it's when you said that there was no powerchord on AFD that i begged to differ. The Rhythm on that album is mainly powerchords. There is nothing wrong with power chords thy've been used in Rock music since forever.

the intros are all unique on the leaks. The Piano creepy thingy on TWAT, The bizarre distortion on Better and the Whiny Guitar on IRS. All not bad IMHO

and i just wanna say one more thing.  Chinese Democracy will never surpass AFD...ever...if that's what you are hoping for then forget it. Different Time, Different Band, Hell even Axl was different then. AFD is a 20 year old masterpeice, CD has yet to see the light of day. It's an unrealistic expectation to fill. Simple as...

[Rocket_queen125]

Complete and utterly awesome

[jmapelian]

but i've heard people call three leaked demo's masterpieces, the best material, ever, bla, bla, bla
 
and some are ripping on AFD, as you said, a masterpiece

and to me, the into's may be a little different , here and there, but you get the same vibe

nothing that grabs you by the balls, at least, the demo's avn't grabbed me until well into the song

[Acquiesce]

My only complaint about the guitars so far is that there is too much noodling from Buckethead on Better. It's a great song, but it would be better with less Buckethead.

[rainX]

i think the guitar playing is amazing.

[Voodoochild]

I think Rhiad has the best riff so far.

[killingvector]

So many here are disappointed? Wow. Unbelievable. Maybe ungrateful. I was blown away by TWAT and Better. Very melodic, whether it is rhythm guitar or orchestration, the vocal melody is strong on both tracks. The solos are huge and wild: bucket owns TWAT, Finck shines on Better. IRS is a cool rocker but definately lower tier album material; lyrically it is exciting with alot of sharp changes. Not revolutionary but one that gets your myelin conducting.

[axlsalinger]

Bucket almost killed this new band (not on purpose, but creatively)!? Let him do his thing, and let the new-GNR who have been there since 96 do theirs.

There is nothing in rock music I find more annoying than those ridiculous "guitar shredders" like Malmsteen and Satriani, who can play a mile a minute but can't write a song to save their life (for fans of these guys, I'm sure they probably have some good songs, but you get my point).

That being said, I am shocked at some of the comments in this thread. Buckethead rules on these songs, how can anyone argue otherwise?! The guitar work in all 3 songs is phenomenal. As someone said in a different thread, I can't see how a fan of hard rock, guitars and Axl can not jump up in amazement at the 2:32 mark of "Better". I love this entire track, Axl's vocals are excellent but they are equally matched by the Bucket on the gee-tar. Those who have checked out his solo stuff know he can play anything, emotional or otherwise.

As for the above quote, musicians join a band to play, not hide in a mansion in the Hollywood Hills. Bucket left because Axl has refused to do a goddamn thing for 12 years (other than some gigs in 2002). Axl himself said he was surprised that Bucket had left "months" before he found out. That is because they never did anything! I am a huge huge fan of Axl Rose but how someone can blame the cancellation of Rio on Bucket is ludicrous. If Axl really wanted to play that show, he had months to get another player. And nothing has happened for 2 years since then either. It's unfortunate but it is the truth. I sincerely hope there are some gigs and a record release this year but I won't believe it till I at least hear something from W.A.R. himself.

If GNR comes back with another guitarist instead of Buckethead I will support it cause I will always support Axl 100%. But I really hope he hasn't erased Bucket's guitar parts, and I also do hope he at least places one call to that chicken coop first.

[RichardNixon]

I'm really hopng they keep BH's parts on the album. I wish we'd get some info on that.

[zombux]

...

HOWGH, this is the point. fuck the haters

to be exact, GNR played more than "some gigs in 2002", but nevermind

[badapple81]

Why does Slash have to be brought into every thread. This thread is about Bucketheads playing on the new songs. You can't speculate what Slash would have sounded like etc etc etc.. he's long gone and won't be coming back..

I really hope Buckethead comes back. He suits the songs so well and is just awesome. I'm sure Axl could do it without him but the stuff I've heard has just really opened my eyes to how good he is.

[zombux]

Why does Slash have to be brought into every thread.

because some people are stupid, that's it

[steviebucket]

And as i said in another thread, all the solos on "better" are prefromed by Buckethead, ugh, Robin getting credit for that last solo, my dick!

[MikeFrett]

I like Rhiad, just can't find a decent version. Anyway, one mans trash is another mans treasure...I like the wicked stuff in Better. 

[Jizzo]

exactly how do you know that robin didnt play it

[Dont Try Me]

exactly how do you know that robin didnt play it

indeed, it is DEFENITELY robin finck, his trademark bends (this time in tune ) are all over it....

nice solo

[Dont Try Me]

Yeah but Power Chords are usually played during vocals etc but they instead of riffs its like we get a chord progression.


I expected Bucket and Finck and fortus to play unconventionally, alternate tunings, very melodic moving parts.

I mean the music could be Green Day for fuck's sake.

yes, maybe, but D.......these are just a couple of demo's........and from what I can hear those demo's are very different from eachother......a melting pot.....some of the things don't work really well and some other demo's do work..... Who knows how much they evolved....Bucket's gone.......who knows what Axl did with his parts......

Don't worry about it. I really still expect Finck to pull off something like he did at the start of Paradise City, you know, that weird yet moving solo / semi-rhythm part? Dunno if you dig that but that was brilliant really....... I really want something like that to be on the album, pure geniousness, unconventional....

I'm sure seeing the demo's, that something like it will be on the album....why? I expect every song to be very very different. Some may have nu-metall influences, some classic Gn'R, moodswings,

we've just heard three demo's...... we are not sure what makes the album and what doesn't.....for all we know axl may have planned "Better" to be put on the follow up...... no clue.....

I just love whole circus feel on these songs.......Never heard anything like this quite before..... I listened to the Better demo million times already and keep discovering amazing licks and the like.....and then....there's this Finck solo which I even dig more then the whole bag of tricks Bucket comes with....it's all in the game......everyone haves their favorite part from a song......that's the amazing thing about it..... There's so much influences in it that you can't love all the parts but there's for everyone something to pick out and love...... hmm, hope that makes sense. 

[MeanBone]

exactly how do you know that robin didnt play it

indeed, it is DEFENITELY robin finck, his trademark bends (this time in tune ) are all over it....

nice solo

that's not robin in a million years, obviously you have no ear what so ever to guitars, robin couldn't hold a bend like that in a million years, his style is sloppy, buckethead's style isn't. the problem is you guys only think of BH as a shredder and problably haven't heard his solo albums, but that's BH's trademarks all over, and not finck. there's some fast licks in there that go by way to smooth, robin couldn't do that. richard could, cuz he has way more technique.
but that's BH's tone, style, and licks. listen to electric tears. jeez