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« Reply #80 on: February 23, 2006, 10:34:55 PM »

Buckethead did the whole outro to TWAT, did he not?? Who does the intro on "Better"?? Sounds like it could be either Buckethead or Finck.? Sometimes you can't tell.? Sometimes Buckethead does things you instantly know are him, but he's so versatile there are other things you can't always tell

Yeah I think so, In fact I'm pretty positive, ok

Yeah, the outro on TWAT, both the 6:01 and 6:43 versions, sounds very much like Buckethead's bluesier solo stuff.? The 6:43 just has the added effects that are undeniably his

And the solo on Better just screams buckethead. especiallly the tapping robot thingy he does ok Pretty fucking awesome
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« Reply #81 on: February 23, 2006, 10:36:27 PM »

Buckethead did the whole outro to TWAT, did he not?  Who does the intro on "Better"?  Sounds like it could be either Buckethead or Finck.  Sometimes you can't tell.  Sometimes Buckethead does things you instantly know are him, but he's so versatile there are other things you can't always tell

Yeah I think so, In fact I'm pretty positive, ok

Yeah, the outro on TWAT, both the 6:01 and 6:43 versions, sounds very much like Buckethead's bluesier solo stuff.  The 6:43 just has the added effects that are undeniably his

And the solo on Better just screams buckethead. especiallly the tapping robot thingy he does ok Pretty fucking awesome

agreed!  ok  welcome back guitar solo's .. we've missed you!
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« Reply #82 on: February 23, 2006, 10:40:09 PM »

Buckethead did the whole outro to TWAT, did he not?? Who does the intro on "Better"?? Sounds like it could be either Buckethead or Finck.? Sometimes you can't tell.? Sometimes Buckethead does things you instantly know are him, but he's so versatile there are other things you can't always tell

Yeah I think so, In fact I'm pretty positive, ok

Yeah, the outro on TWAT, both the 6:01 and 6:43 versions, sounds very much like Buckethead's bluesier solo stuff.? The 6:43 just has the added effects that are undeniably his

And the solo on Better just screams buckethead. especiallly the tapping robot thingy he does ok Pretty fucking awesome

agreed!? ok? welcome back guitar solo's .. we've missed you!

And Bucket built the empire state building and invented the guitar, and saved every chicken in the world!  Once the interviews start and album comes out, everyone will know Robin (those with a trained ear, or insight know the sections) played interchanging parts with Bucket and someone else on the outro.  Really, folks, Bucket is great, but some of you are starting to drool like the pathetic GNR freaks over at the Velvet Rope (maybe the same good Nazis), that think Axl has never taken a shit that smelled bad.
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« Reply #83 on: February 23, 2006, 10:41:19 PM »

Buckethead did the whole outro to TWAT, did he not?  Who does the intro on "Better"?  Sounds like it could be either Buckethead or Finck.  Sometimes you can't tell.  Sometimes Buckethead does things you instantly know are him, but he's so versatile there are other things you can't always tell

I am not a fan of the 'shredding' in Better and IRS, but Bucket is responsible for two of the best new solos in Madagascar and There Was a Time. Day by day, I am becoming more impressed with Finck, but the Bucket portion of Better screams incomplete to me. I would not be suprised to learn that Finck redid the portion of the song; Finck definately shines on Better.
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« Reply #84 on: February 23, 2006, 10:42:06 PM »

And Bucket built the empire state building and invented the guitar, and saved every chicken in the world!? Once the interviews start and album comes out, everyone will know Robin (those with a trained ear, or insight know the sections) played interchanging parts with Bucket and someone else on the outro.? Really, folks, Bucket is great, but some of you are starting to drool like the pathetic GNR freaks over at the Velvet Rope (maybe the same good Nazis), that think Axl has never taken a shit that smelled bad.

Huh?! I thought we were talking about bucketheads solos on the leaked tracks. not Axl's shit Huh

I am not a fan of the 'shredding' in Better and IRS, but Bucket is responsible for two of the best new solos in Madagascar and There Was a Time. Day by day, I am becoming more impressed with Finck, but the Bucket portion of Better screams incomplete to me. I would not be suprised to learn that Finck redid the portion of the song; Finck definately shines on Better.

Robin is alright and My opinion improves with each new thing i hear, But I don't think he can offer what buckethead brings to the table. You gotta be damn good to do that and Robin's just not fast enough. (I base that opinion on everything I have heard Robin do with GnR)
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« Reply #85 on: February 23, 2006, 10:45:32 PM »

Bucket is replaceable.. there are tons of guitarists out of the mainstream that can play just as well.  They may be nonames, but they exist.  Secondly, the demos are so sloppy as is, that its impossible to tell wether or not we are better off without bucket.  Food for thought..
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« Reply #86 on: February 23, 2006, 10:46:41 PM »

Food for thought..

I'm not hungry for that slop. Bring on some KFC.  hihi
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« Reply #87 on: February 23, 2006, 10:48:05 PM »

Bucket is replaceable.. there are tons of guitarists out of the mainstream that can play just as well.? They may be nonames, but they exist.? Secondly, the demos are so sloppy as is, that its impossible to tell wether or not we are better off without bucket.? Food for thought..

True true, but playing something is one thing, coming up with it in the first place is another.

I have no doubts that there are tons of guitarists that can play what buckethead does, but buckethead ecclectic writing style is a one of a kind ok
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« Reply #88 on: February 23, 2006, 10:50:38 PM »

Bucket is replaceable.. there are tons of guitarists out of the mainstream that can play just as well.? They may be nonames, but they exist.? Secondly, the demos are so sloppy as is, that its impossible to tell wether or not we are better off without bucket.? Food for thought..

True true, but playing something is one thing, coming up with it in the first place is another.

I have no doubts that there are tons of guitarists that can play what buckethead does, but buckethead ecclectic writing style is a one of a kind ok

Good point.. But if someone is talented enough to play it, I hope they'd have the sense to be creative on the flipside.  The material has been written and recorded - it could be a decade until they put out another album, all we need is a replacement for the tour.
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« Reply #89 on: February 23, 2006, 10:52:23 PM »

whatever..........

there's nothing so far in the songs that get your attention from the start....

the intro's are weak at best

after waiting for 12 years for new music, i was expecting a little more

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« Reply #90 on: February 23, 2006, 10:54:20 PM »

Bucket is replaceable.. there are tons of guitarists out of the mainstream that can play just as well.  They may be nonames, but they exist.  Secondly, the demos are so sloppy as is, that its impossible to tell wether or not we are better off without bucket.  Food for thought..

True true, but playing something is one thing, coming up with it in the first place is another.

I have no doubts that there are tons of guitarists that can play what buckethead does, but buckethead ecclectic writing style is a one of a kind ok

Good point.. But if someone is talented enough to play it, I hope they'd have the sense to be creative on the flipside.  The material has been written and recorded - it could be a decade until they put out another album, all we need is a replacement for the tour.

I don't really agree.  One reason I like Buckethead so much, and what seperates him from most virtuoso types, is his ability to write great melodies and songs as well as being to shred and play extremely difficult technical stuff
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« Reply #91 on: February 23, 2006, 10:54:32 PM »

I enjoy the leaked songs a great deal, but I must admit I still feel I would enjoy them more if Slash was playing and putting his creative influence on them. I just dont think there was ever a better duo of Axl N' Slash
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« Reply #92 on: February 23, 2006, 10:55:17 PM »

That riff riht before Axl starts screaming in Better makes me go FUCK YEAH!  It rocks and its got a great groove.  Who cares if its power chords
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« Reply #93 on: February 23, 2006, 10:57:41 PM »

Better isnt really included cause it kicks fuckin ass but i am hopin we get some kick ass riffs on this album.


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« Reply #94 on: February 23, 2006, 10:58:00 PM »

whatever..........

there's nothing so far in the songs that get your attention from the start....

the intro's are weak at best

after waiting for 12 years for new music, i was expecting a little more



Well, sorry to hear it, I think that the demo's sound pretty freaking cool. Not everysong can start out like Sweet Child ok

Think of it this way, look at the November rain demos, then look at the finished product Shocked Shocked Shocked

That was brought up by another member the other day (Sorry bud can't remember you username Cry ). I don't think the progression will be as drastic as that instance , but my god!!! could you imagine ok
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« Reply #95 on: February 23, 2006, 11:02:02 PM »

I enjoy the leaked songs a great deal, but I must admit I still feel I would enjoy them more if Slash was playing and putting his creative influence on them. I just dont think there was ever a better duo of Axl N' Slash

Yeah but,

"Yesterday's got nothin' for meeee" That was in the past, it's time to move forward now. It was fantastic while it lasted for sure, but there is nothing you or i can do about it unless we are Axl and Slash, and I dunno bout you but I'm not either of those guys, so looks like we're shit outta luck for the time being peace

in the future, meh who knows, but that's a distant future that i might be able to see.
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« Reply #96 on: February 23, 2006, 11:08:17 PM »

Bucket is replaceable.. there are tons of guitarists out of the mainstream that can play just as well.? They may be nonames, but they exist.? Secondly, the demos are so sloppy as is, that its impossible to tell wether or not we are better off without bucket.? Food for thought..

True true, but playing something is one thing, coming up with it in the first place is another.

I have no doubts that there are tons of guitarists that can play what buckethead does, but buckethead ecclectic writing style is a one of a kind ok

Good point.. But if someone is talented enough to play it, I hope they'd have the sense to be creative on the flipside.? The material has been written and recorded - it could be a decade until they put out another album, all we need is a replacement for the tour.

I don't really agree.? One reason I like Buckethead so much, and what seperates him from most virtuoso types, is his ability to write great melodies and songs as well as being to shred and play extremely difficult technical stuff

I know where you're coming from and I agree with you - but for the purpose of the tour, I think he can be replaced.  There are a lot of nonames out there that play just as well.. he's just the most popular name right now because he's been in the band.
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« Reply #97 on: February 23, 2006, 11:09:41 PM »

a question for all of you:

When you hear for the first time the RECORDED (Fick and Richard doing other things in the Buckethead?s place ) STUDIO VERSION of IRS, Better and TWAT, you will first compare them with:

A. Old GNR sound

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B. The DEMOS that used to have Buckethead?s sound?

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« Reply #98 on: February 23, 2006, 11:11:47 PM »

a question for all of you:

When you hear for the first time the RECORDED (Fick and Richard doing other things in the Buckethead?s place ) STUDIO VERSION of IRS, Better and TWAT, you will first compare them with:

A. Old GNR sound

or

B. The DEMOS that used to have Buckethead?s sound?



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« Reply #99 on: February 23, 2006, 11:15:08 PM »

I enjoy the leaked songs a great deal, but I must admit I still feel I would enjoy them more if Slash was playing and putting his creative influence on them. I just dont think there was ever a better duo of Axl N' Slash

I just don't think Slash could have willingly worked with the melody in Better and the sudden changes in tempo in IRS.  Lips Sealed

But I appreciate the old band too but dem days are gone.
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