Guitar playing on new tracks - your opinion?

[jmapelian]

Where on AFD do you hear power chords over Axl's singing.....riffs, riffs, fills, fils, leads, outro's....no power chords all the time....don't go there

heh?

OK, so you never listened to Appetite than...that's fine

[Saul]

IF Robin and Richard re-recorded these leaked demos, they will have to be as good as the Buckethead?s solos

I'll say a prayer for them tonight. Poor bastards. 

[kaddisonmoore]

BH is very overrated

[younggunner]

wtf is overated about Buckethead? He gives you power,emotion,speed everything in any song. hes so diverse and great....i just dont get whats not to like....maybe his solo in Better is out of place, but that doesnt mean hes overated...please check out TWAt

if you didnt know any better you would think thats a Modern day Slash on that TWAT solo

Bucket is the fukin man and I hope to God his parts stay on the album if it raises the level of a song. ANd if he coems back thats just a bonus...but i want the material first

[SWINGTRADER]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3444593949853639826&q=buckethead

[Neemo]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3444593949853639826&q=buckethead

My god are you still going on about that video!!! have you watched it yet???

He does some crazy ass shit with his guitar on that video. He is an unbeleivably talented musician.

Music is always full of people with weird themes

Look at

Kiss for starters
Wes borland in limp bizkit
GWAR
Slipknot

Like whats the big fucking deal?! so what he talks through a puppet and wears a bucket. When you can play like him you can do whatever what the fuck you want to do.

His work on the demos proves how amazing he is. If you don't wanna deal with that then you may wanna find a new band to likem cuz i have a feeling that his "Shedding" is staying

[FlashFlood]

umm ya  ive definitely listened to appetite over and over again and i just didnt understand who you were trying to argue with.

and a riff is based off of power chords anyway, even on afd. the riffs are either based on power chords or open chords go listen again

[Throatrake]

Buckethead - God help us without him!

Anyone in the world that argues this needs a new pipe to smoke from

I feel that.

Buckethead, PLEASE call Axl up and make nice.

[ShotgunBlues1978]

Swingtrader would probably prefer they bring in C.C. Deville and Eric Turner

[Saul]

does anyone remember that "slash" used to be nothing more then a faceless freak , face hidden behing a ball of curly hair and a strange ole top hat on his head?  Jesus.

[Syd Vega]

nothing wrong with power chords...but yeah, I'm dissapointed. There's not one riff which makes you think "FUCK YEAH!!!", the Chinese Democracy Riff is memorable but kinda...cheap...
Buckethead is just wrong for this band, he sounds thin and so anti-rock 'n' roll - doesn't work at all for me. Hope his parts are gone. I miss Slash more than ever, he's GUNS N' ROSES as much as Axl is. And Slash + Izzy was just ?PERFECT !!

[SWINGTRADER]

A faceless freak (slash)  that is responsible for some of the most famous and recognizable riffs in rock n' roll history.

[spacebrain5000]

Buckethead owns all.


Long rock the Bucket!!

[Minneapolisnewsman]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3444593949853639826&q=buckethead

My god are you still going on about that video!!! have you watched it yet???

He does some crazy ass shit with his guitar on that video. He is an unbeleivably talented musician.

Music is always full of people with weird themes

Look at

Kiss for starters
Wes borland in limp bizkit
GWAR
Slipknot

Like whats the big fucking deal?! so what he talks through a puppet and wears a bucket. When you can play like him you can do whatever what the fuck you want to do.

His work on the demos proves how amazing he is. If you don't wanna deal with that then you may wanna find a new band to likem cuz i have a feeling that his "Shedding" is staying

These songs were written before Bucket. ?He is a great musician, extremely talented! ?But, to add shredding over completed songs, or to add a whole thirty second section that does not fit into the songs structure, is not adding anything to these songs. ?Anyone, who understands the recording process, can pick up on that fact that these are demos, and that Bucket, while phenomenal added nothing to these songs--in fact he hindered their continuity if anything. ?The last three minutes of Better explain the delay of Chinese Democracy about as much as Slash leaving--mark it down, Axl will tell us all at some point.

I would not expect Bucket's parts to be taken off the finished product where they fit, like IRS, but the stuff in TWAT and Better, would be "better" without the momentum kiling speed ball-no emotion, shred. ?Bucket was not into that stuff, and did not talk with his guitar, he just fretted--and one can tell. ?Give it up, love Bucket, but he does not "own" these songs.

Actually, the thing that stands out on these songs is Fincks driving, percussion-slashing, accentuating rhythm work. ?He plays the rhythm guitar in a way that almost makes it like a solo, the way he accentuates and changes the volume of his chord striking. ?Robin drives the first half of Better, and rips from 1:05 to 1:28 of IRS. ?Personally, the acoustic work of Fortus mixed with the electric Finck in IRS, is very, very exciting! ?Also, Fincks solo in Better and his parts in TWAT (yes he plays some of those solos) is awesome! ?

Anyone questioning Fincks ability, check out Sossego from RIO, and the ending jam of Paradise City from Rio! ?The guy is awesome, and I am so tired of the "Bucket incident" overshadowing his work. ?Bucket almost killed this new band (not on purpose, but creatively)! ?Let him do his thing, and let the new-GNR who have been there since 96 do theirs.

[Saul]

A faceless freak (slash)  that is responsible for some of the most famous and recognizable riffs in rock n' roll history.

obviously. but whats yer point?

[younggunner]

i agree maybe with his olo in Better doesnt fit but not in TWAt...His solos in TWAT are mind blowing.

[ShotgunBlues1978]

Buckethead did the whole outro to TWAT, did he not?  Who does the intro on "Better"?  Sounds like it could be either Buckethead or Finck.  Sometimes you can't tell.  Sometimes Buckethead does things you instantly know are him, but he's so versatile there are other things you can't always tell

[Neemo]

Where on AFD do you hear power chords over Axl's singing.....riffs, riffs, fills, fils, leads, outro's....no power chords all the time....don't go there

heh?

OK, so you never listened to Appetite than...that's fine

Ummmm, ok, the GnR tunes i know how to play use power chords and normal chords too but whatever. You act like AFD was one big solofest I suggest you listen to it again the write a 500 word report on your findings Maybe do some research in Guitar books and stuff

Song:Welcome to the Jungle
Band:Guns n Roses
Tuned down half a step: Eb Ab Db Gb Bb Eb
Tempo=104

Intro: Gtr.1 w/delay (see recomendations at bootom):
                                /-----call this Riff A------\
E|-----------------------------|-----------------------------|
B|-----------------------------|-----------------------------|
G|---4-------4---------4-4-4---|--4--4-2--2-----------------:|
D|-----------------------------|------------4--4-2--2--0----:|
A|-----------------------------|--------------------------2--|
E|-----------------------------|-----------------------------|
  \--------only once----------/ \----repeat this 2 times----/



Guitar 2 & 3 starts here, with Gtr. 1 Riff A seven more times
               (Play Guitar 1 Riff A until the last E5 chord)



Gtr.2: Play these Power chords B5 A5 G5 E5 B5 A5 E5            \
                                                               /
     B5       A5         G5      E5      B5   A5  E5 D5  A5    \
E|----------------------------------------------------------|  /
B|----------------------------------------------------------|  \
G|---4--4--------------------------------4------------7-----|  /
D|---4--4-----7--7-------5--5----2--2----4----7---2---7--7--|  \ play this,
A|---2--2-----7--7-------5--5----2--2----2----7---2---5--7--|  / riffs at
E|------------5--5-------3--3----0--0---------5---0------5--|  \ the same
                                                               / time in
Gtr.3:                                                         \ guitar
E|--------------------------------------7--7/5--5-0---------|  / 1, 2 & 3
B|--------------------------------------7--7/5--5-0---7--5--|  \
G|------------7-9-9fb---7qb---------------------------7--6--|  /
D|---7h9--9-------------------7h9--9s2----------------7--7--|  \
A|-------------------------------------------------------0--|  /
E|----------------------------------------------------------|  \
 



Gtr.2: (faster Gtr 2. & 3 => Tempo=124)
     B5        B5      B5      B5       B5     B5   B5     \
E|------------------------------------------------------|  /
B|------------------------------------------------------|  \
G|---4---------4-------4-------4--------4------4----4---|  /
D|---4---------4-------4-------4--------4------4----4---|  \
A|---2---------2-------2-------2--------2------2----2---|  / play this
E|------------------------------------------------------|  \ riffs at the
                                                           / same time
Gtr.3:                                                     \ in both
E|-------------------------------------5--5-------------|  / guitars
B|-----------------------3---5-----5hb----5hb---3-------|  \
G|----------------2--4------------------------------4\--|  /
D|---------2--4-----------------------------------------|  \
A|--2--4------------------------------------------------|  /
E|------------------------------------------------------|  \

Start with that

[Neemo]

Buckethead did the whole outro to TWAT, did he not?? Who does the intro on "Better"?? Sounds like it could be either Buckethead or Finck.? Sometimes you can't tell.? Sometimes Buckethead does things you instantly know are him, but he's so versatile there are other things you can't always tell

Yeah I think so, In fact I'm pretty positive,

[ShotgunBlues1978]

Buckethead did the whole outro to TWAT, did he not?  Who does the intro on "Better"?  Sounds like it could be either Buckethead or Finck.  Sometimes you can't tell.  Sometimes Buckethead does things you instantly know are him, but he's so versatile there are other things you can't always tell

Yeah I think so, In fact I'm pretty positive,

Yeah, the outro on TWAT, both the 6:01 and 6:43 versions, sounds very much like Buckethead's bluesier solo stuff.  The 6:43 just has the added effects that are undeniably his