You Can Argue. But Tool 10,000 Days Is The Album For GNR To Beat This Year.

[TOPGUNner]

Hey guess what, buddy? It's not called "Learn to swim" which shows how much you've actually listened to it.

It's called Anima. It's the title track.

Again, I could care less what the song is called because i don't like it. deal

Then, don't sit here and criticize it if you don't care about it.

Good idea I won't sit here...it's May 12th, let me get on a train, go to Mustang Harry's and then to a GUNS AND ROSES show. Enjoy your Tool CD

[DMJ]

since when is Tool a big band? they bring like 500 people their shows.

[Neemo]

since when is Tool a big band? they bring like 500 people their shows.

they sold out a 5000 seat venue in toronto, canada in 8 seconds

and they sell out arena shows all the time

[requiem156]

since when is Tool a big band? they bring like 500 people their shows.

Tool headlined the Coachella festival - I might be mistaken but I think significantly more than 500 people usually make it to that event. For further info on the subject, go to the Billboard site. They sold 564,000 copies in one week, making 10,000 Days gold in that space of time. The album is at #1 on the chart, and has sold more than twice as much as Pearl Jam's self-titled, which opened at #2 and has sold 279,000 copies. Their last album, Lateralus, opened with 550,000 copies sold in the 1st week. If that isn't a big band, then I'm not sure what your definition "big" is.

I'm calling them big and you misinformed. 

[D]

I havent heard this album so I cant comment

but I cant see how it could be greater than Stadium Arcadium.

check out

Dani california
Snow
Stadium Arcadium
Slow Cheetah
Hump De Bump
SHe's only 18
Tell Me Baby
Hard to Concentrate
Wet Sand


Those alone are some of the greatest songs I have heard in I dont know how many years

So to beat this album would be tough for anyone.

[Izzy]

I havent heard this album so I cant comment

but I cant see how it could be greater than Stadium Arcadium.

check out

Dani california
Snow
Stadium Arcadium
Slow Cheetah
Hump De Bump
SHe's only 18
Tell Me Baby
Hard to Concentrate
Wet Sand


Those alone are some of the greatest songs I have heard in I dont know how many years

So to beat this album would be tough for anyone.

I'm so sick of your upbeat posts

Damnit - complain about something!

[Skeletor]

I havent heard this album so I cant comment

but I cant see how it could be greater than Stadium Arcadium.

check out

Dani california
....

I've only heard Dani California so far, but if the rest of the album is more of the same, I don't think you can really compare those two. Tool is something original, intelligent and unique, whereas the RHCP of today is just mediocre rock music (in my opinion). Definitely not saying they're shit, but in my book the band just stopped making memorable music after One Hot Minute...

[axl_rose_700]

Shouldn't be too difficult! 

[minotaur]

Sorry all ... but I think that any albums or live shows by Tool will very easily outperform GNR in every way.? Tool are operating on another level entirely, it's that simple.? I don't know where some people from this board have been for the last ten years, but Tool is hands down one of the biggest rock bands in existence today - see Tool's 1996 release "Aenima," which is arguably the best rock/metal album of the 1990s.? Regrettably (and I'm sorry to say this) GNR are kinda the laughing stock of serious music fans and critics alike right now (as evidenced by the negative press comments of late).?

To most people, Axl and his band are going to have to come out and prove that they have something relevant to offer to the 21st century musical landscape.? Meanwhile, bands like Tool and RHCP have been doing just this all along and are interestingly enough, around the same age as Axl, who has a lot of catching up to do.? It pains me to say that from the sounds of some of the posts here, it seems as if many people are very out of touch with (good) music today.? Sure, "Appetite..." and the "Use Your Illusion's" are classic albums, but you're going to get a very different look from people if you're driving down any major street in a big city blaring one of those albums as opposed to others from roughly the same period - say RHCP's "Blood Sugar Sex Magik," or Tool's "Undertow."? These are just the facts.? I'm not trying to sound elitist, but the latter two albums are still very "in," while the GNR discs are kinda "been there, done that" and "remember hair metal and Axl Rose?!?!" for most music listeners.? ?

Everyone does realize that there is a very real possibility that "Chinese Democracy" will completely flop in North America when it is released ...? right?? A comeback like this is a huge risk that has already been met with much skepticism from the industry and fans.? Don't get me wrong, I'm rootin' for Axl and all, but it is more likely that we're going to see GNR opening for the major rock superstars/headlining bands of today, such as Tool and RHCP.? This may not be true of other countries, but it certainly will be for the USA and Canada - which I think has a slightly more apprehensive view of the new GNR than other regions of the world.?

Here's to hopin' that Axl comes out and proves all of this wrong, but I don't want anyone here to get their hopes up that he will somehow become the biggest rock star with the biggest band in the world again.? I think everyone knows those days are long over and what would be best right now, is for GNR to find their proper place within the 21st century rock world without compromising their past standards of quality and integrity.

[smooth]

RHCP and Tool have been making and SELLING music for the past 10-15 years. So until the CD hits the store's this is a mute point.

[minotaur]

RHCP and Tool have been making and SELLING music for the past 10-15 years. So until the CD hits the store's this is a mute (sic) point.

Exactly.? That was my point: to people that are bashing the above mentioned bands, who have been creating music (which is in some instances, fairly incredible) over the past decade vs. Axl, who has unfortunately become a bit of a joke to many.? I think that this article basically sums up what I was trying to communicate in terms of widespread public and industry reaction to the new GNR at the moment:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060512.wgnr0512/BNStory/Entertainment/home

[gilld1]

C'mon people get out of the 80s!  Tool has been kicking ass for years now and selling major amounts of tickets.  Meanwhile Axl er Asshole has had his thumbs up his ass for 15 years watching the world go by. 

[minotaur]

C'mon people get out of the 80s!? Tool has been kicking ass for years now and selling major amounts of tickets.? Meanwhile Axl er Asshole has had his thumbs up his ass for 15 years watching the world go by.?

Amen!

[Chief]

I agree here.. tool is freakin HUGE!!!!!!! their last album sold almost 2.5 million copies and there aren't even any "real" singles, no catchy songs and they sell out shows all the time.

However i do still believe that Chinese Democracy will be a really great and amazing album and should do pretty well, even if it doesn't do as well as their older discs.

Sorry all ... but I think that any albums or live shows by Tool will very easily outperform GNR in every way.  Tool are operating on another level entirely, it's that simple.  I don't know where some people from this board have been for the last ten years, but Tool is hands down one of the biggest rock bands in existence today - see Tool's 1996 release "Aenima," which is arguably the best rock/metal album of the 1990s.  Regrettably (and I'm sorry to say this) GNR are kinda the laughing stock of serious music fans and critics alike right now (as evidenced by the negative press comments of late). 

To most people, Axl and his band are going to have to come out and prove that they have something relevant to offer to the 21st century musical landscape.  Meanwhile, bands like Tool and RHCP have been doing just this all along and are interestingly enough, around the same age as Axl, who has a lot of catching up to do.  It pains me to say that from the sounds of some of the posts here, it seems as if many people are very out of touch with (good) music today.  Sure, "Appetite..." and the "Use Your Illusion's" are classic albums, but you're going to get a very different look from people if you're driving down any major street in a big city blaring one of those albums as opposed to others from roughly the same period - say RHCP's "Blood Sugar Sex Magik," or Tool's "Undertow."  These are just the facts.  I'm not trying to sound elitist, but the latter two albums are still very "in," while the GNR discs are kinda "been there, done that" and "remember hair metal and Axl Rose?!?!" for most music listeners.   

Everyone does realize that there is a very real possibility that "Chinese Democracy" will completely flop in North America when it is released ...  right?  A comeback like this is a huge risk that has already been met with much skepticism from the industry and fans.  Don't get me wrong, I'm rootin' for Axl and all, but it is more likely that we're going to see GNR opening for the major rock superstars/headlining bands of today, such as Tool and RHCP.  This may not be true of other countries, but it certainly will be for the USA and Canada - which I think has a slightly more apprehensive view of the new GNR than other regions of the world. 

Here's to hopin' that Axl comes out and proves all of this wrong, but I don't want anyone here to get their hopes up that he will somehow become the biggest rock star with the biggest band in the world again.  I think everyone knows those days are long over and what would be best right now, is for GNR to find their proper place within the 21st century rock world without compromising their past standards of quality and integrity.

[da_pope]

It's basically, Stadium Arcadium, 10,000 Days and Fifteen... Those are the best albums by far this year.

[Neemo]

It's basically, Stadium Arcadium, 10,000 Days and Fifteen... Those are the best albums by far this year.

are seriously comparing Buckcherry to Tool and RHCP? my god, you have a problem son....better work on that  

Seriously though i can't believe you put TooL and Buckcherry in the same sentence as far as musical talent

[da_pope]

It's basically, Stadium Arcadium, 10,000 Days and Fifteen... Those are the best albums by far this year.

are seriously comparing Buckcherry to Tool and RHCP? my god, you have a problem son....better work on that ?

Seriously though i can't believe you put TooL and Buckcherry in the same sentence as far as musical talent

[da_pope]

It's basically, Stadium Arcadium, 10,000 Days and Fifteen... Those are the best albums by far this year.

are seriously comparing Buckcherry to Tool and RHCP? my god, you have a problem son....better work on that ?

Seriously though i can't believe you put TooL and Buckcherry in the same sentence as far as musical talent

I'd put Buckcherry ahead of Tool.
I can't stand Tool. And I own Stadium Arcadium and truely think that Fifteen is the better album.

When a band can go Gold on an indie label, I think thats pretty impressive.
Now that they have Atlantic pushing them... There gonna be huge!

[gilld1]

I bet you were saying the same thing years ago when All lit up came out and it didn't happen.  Just as it they won't blow now.  They'll just blow.

[da_pope]

I bet you were saying the same thing years ago when All lit up came out and it didn't happen.? Just as it they won't blow now.? They'll just blow.

Actually... I wasn't old enough to really into music back in the 1999.
10 year olds aren't exactly music enthusiasts.

The diffrence between then and now is that Lit Up went huge while Buckcherry was on an Indie label. Now there on a major label.